Aghny wrote:No, i just like my anonymity in the internet. Although you could easily narrow it down if you knew how. Find the clues yourself though sherlock.
I am an anonymous user from Argentina. There. Who am I?
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by Samuraikoku » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:37 pm
Aghny wrote:No, i just like my anonymity in the internet. Although you could easily narrow it down if you knew how. Find the clues yourself though sherlock.

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Hey, it's an answer. Maybe not the one you were looking for, but it was something
Amazingly, yes they do.

by Condunum » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Dragoria wrote:Notsomuch. With the breathalyzer, they'll take your revocation of the "implied consent" of you operating your car to be an admission of guilt in some places. The court will side with the police officer saying "implied consent, breathalyzer nao" no matter how loudly you yell "NO".Condunum wrote:It's the same. Your actions display non-verbal consent to the breathalyzer, no? In that sense, non-verbal consent is a very dodgy,hard to prove stance. Which is why you need to prove real, verbal consent as a defense. Otherwise, rape.
Implied consent is not nonverbal consent. It's "I assumed you meant yes and went ahead with that assumed yes even though you never said yes or actively said no because [reason]".
While non-verbal consent is "you said yes without words, by actively or enthusiastically participating in [x]".
In sexytype situations, implied consent is rape, non-verbal consent isn't.

by Anachronous Rex » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Dragoria wrote:Does North Korea count?Anachronous Rex wrote:The only biology professor in the world who doesn't know first year biology. But apparently he's not an "expert," "just a professor."
I'm struggling to guess what Asian country he could be from, because frankly even Turkmenistan has higher standards. Myanmar maybe?

by Dragoria » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Not according to rapists and those who want rapists to get away with raping people. Noted.

by Kvatchdom » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Aghny wrote:Samuraikoku wrote:
Afraid, are we, "professor"?
No, i just like my anonymity in the internet. Although you could easily narrow it down if you knew how. Find the clues yourself though sherlockKvatchdom wrote:What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.
Not according to all. Why i have been arguing that it is subjective unless proven otherwise.

by Choronzon » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:38 pm
Aghny wrote:Not according to all. Why i have been arguing that it is subjective unless proven otherwise.

by Condunum » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:39 pm
Aghny wrote:Samuraikoku wrote:
Afraid, are we, "professor"?
No, i just like my anonymity in the internet. Although you could easily narrow it down if you knew how. Find the clues yourself though sherlockKvatchdom wrote:What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.
Not according to all. Why i have been arguing that it is subjective unless proven otherwise.

by Anachronous Rex » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:39 pm

by Aghny » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:39 pm
Samuraikoku wrote:Kvatchdom wrote:What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.
He's saying laws that define what is rape are just "opinionnnnnnnnnnnnns!" and not facts. Say, were you in a murder case, would you tell the judge "but the law is just an OPINION! It's not a fact!"?

by Samuraikoku » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:40 pm
Anachronous Rex wrote:The ghost of Juan Perón! I knew it!


by Dragoria » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:41 pm
Yeah, confusing non-verbal and implied consents is not something we need more of.Condunum wrote:Dragoria wrote: Notsomuch. With the breathalyzer, they'll take your revocation of the "implied consent" of you operating your car to be an admission of guilt in some places. The court will side with the police officer saying "implied consent, breathalyzer nao" no matter how loudly you yell "NO".
Implied consent is not nonverbal consent. It's "I assumed you meant yes and went ahead with that assumed yes even though you never said yes or actively said no because [reason]".
While non-verbal consent is "you said yes without words, by actively or enthusiastically participating in [x]".
In sexytype situations, implied consent is rape, non-verbal consent isn't.
Hm. Point made, I'll concede that.

by Anachronous Rex » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 pm

by Northern Dominus » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 pm
Backpedalling furiously from your original position? You know the one which basically stated "no" means "Yes"?

by Dragoria » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 pm
Doesn't matter, implied consent.

by Kvatchdom » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 pm

by Samuraikoku » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:43 pm
Aghny wrote:If it was an accident, but some call it murder, no sane judge will rule it as murder unless there are enough evidences to support that claim.
Same with rape. You can call it the law and say that no consent means rape, but no court will decide on just that. If you have proof as in something other than just your words then it is a different story.

by Anachronous Rex » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:44 pm

by Dragoria » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:44 pm
Rape-trains, no less.
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