"Women want sex, just not with YOU."

[Aghny]

Please, PLEASE don't encourage them to confuse implied consent and non-verbal consent.
"She takes her clothes off" is non-verbal consent (active/enthusiastic participation)
Implied consent is "she never said yes, but I could tell she wanted it because X (outfit, alcohol consumption, "didn't say no").

Implied Consent is in cases where a police officer tells you to take a breathalyzer and you refuse, go to court, and the judge says "By operating a car, you gave implied consent to the breathalyzer".
Implied consent will not hold up as a defense against a rape charge.

It's the same. Your actions display non-verbal consent to the breathalyzer, no? In that sense, non-verbal consent is a very dodgy,hard to prove stance. Which is why you need to prove real, verbal consent as a defense. Otherwise, rape.

How can you prove verbal consent in the court of law if there are no witnesses or a taperecorder or something ? Yeah, rape.

Or, you just need it written in simpler sentences.

Then do, by all means.

Na, i am not going to change my way of writing just for you.

[Samuraikoku]

I will now make a more question related topic:

Is there a woman who would like to have sex with me?

[Condunum]

What I don't understand is why people insist on trying so hard to justify their shitty behavior and rapist like attitudes rather than correct them. Are their egos so fragile where admitting that perhaps you were looking at something wrong or a particular view is harmful will just shatter their self image and worth? Or is there some more sinister motive which gets certain posters so defensive when you talk about consent and rape culture?

Dude, you're talking about the kind of person who would argue with their wife or girlfriend until they left, all because they can't handle being wrong. There's no fucking way their mind will let them change; change means they were wrong.

[Samuraikoku]

Na, i am not going to change my way of writing just for you.

How anti-pedagogic, "professor".

[Choronzon]

Is there a woman who would like to have sex with me?

All the women on NSG who don't immediately say "no" in this thread are clearly consenting.

[Samuraikoku]

Is there a woman who would like to have sex with me?

All the women on NSG who don't immediately say "no" in this thread are clearly consenting.

Yes to Ljvonia and Aghny. Not for me.

[Condunum]

It's the same. Your actions display non-verbal consent to the breathalyzer, no? In that sense, non-verbal consent is a very dodgy,hard to prove stance. Which is why you need to prove real, verbal consent as a defense. Otherwise, rape.

How can you prove verbal consent in the court of law if there are no witnesses or a taperecorder or something ? Yeah, rape.

if you can't prove it, you can't prove it. But that's why it's innocent until proven guilty, smart one.

[Aghny]

Assumptions doesn't have to be true. And one can in the same way assume consent.

In that case, then she didn't consent. Case closed.

Nope, that is the same as saying, she didn't object. Case closed.

Different countries mean i won't be detained for what you consider rape, because that is not the law here.

You will in America, Argentina, Germany and Lithuania. And if you're somewhere else, please show me where. I'll search the appropriate law as I did with Ljvonia.

Like i said, asia is all you are getting.

[Samuraikoku]

Like i said, asia is all you are getting.

Afraid, are we, "professor"?

[Northern Dominus]

I will now make a more question related topic:

Is there a woman who would like to have sex with me?

Yes... you just have to be willing to look long and hard or pay enough

[Kvatchdom]

In that case, then she didn't consent. Case closed.

Nope, that is the same as saying, she didn't object. Case closed.

You will in America, Argentina, Germany and Lithuania. And if you're somewhere else, please show me where. I'll search the appropriate law as I did with Ljvonia.

Like i said, asia is all you are getting.

What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.

[Aghny]

How can you prove verbal consent in the court of law if there are no witnesses or a taperecorder or something ? Yeah, rape.

if you can't prove it, you can't prove it. But that's why it's innocent until proven guilty, smart one.

So now everyone should have witnesses and a way to record things before sex ?

[Condunum]

In that case, then she didn't consent. Case closed.

Nope, that is the same as saying, she didn't object. Case closed.

sex is an act that requires two-party participation. If one party does not participate, there is no consent. The reason we have implied objection is because of people like you.

[Samuraikoku]

Yes... you just have to be willing to look long and hard or pay enough

I'm waiting for an answer. Not that I think I'll be getting any.

But hey, it's some sort of training.

[Anachronous Rex]

Like i said, asia is all you are getting.

Afraid, are we, "professor"?

The only biology professor in the world who doesn't know first year biology. But apparently he's not an "expert," "just a professor."

I'm struggling to guess what Asian country he could be from, because frankly even Turkmenistan has higher standards. Myanmar maybe?

[Condunum]

if you can't prove it, you can't prove it. But that's why it's innocent until proven guilty, smart one.

So now everyone should have witnesses and a way to record things before sex ?

...Have you never read through the witness testimonies in a single rape case? Ever? Like, fuck. You have to be to the bone ignorant to think this.

[Dragoria]

Please, PLEASE don't encourage them to confuse implied consent and non-verbal consent.
"She takes her clothes off" is non-verbal consent (active/enthusiastic participation)
Implied consent is "she never said yes, but I could tell she wanted it because X (outfit, alcohol consumption, "didn't say no").

Implied Consent is in cases where a police officer tells you to take a breathalyzer and you refuse, go to court, and the judge says "By operating a car, you gave implied consent to the breathalyzer".
Implied consent will not hold up as a defense against a rape charge.

It's the same. Your actions display non-verbal consent to the breathalyzer, no? In that sense, non-verbal consent is a very dodgy,hard to prove stance. Which is why you need to prove real, verbal consent as a defense. Otherwise, rape.

Notsomuch. With the breathalyzer, they'll take your revocation of the "implied consent" of you operating your car to be an admission of guilt in some places. The court will side with the police officer saying "implied consent, breathalyzer nao" no matter how loudly you yell "NO".
Implied consent is not nonverbal consent. It's "I assumed you meant yes and went ahead with that assumed yes even though you never said yes or actively said no because [reason]".
While non-verbal consent is "you said yes without words, by actively or enthusiastically participating in [x]".

In sexytype situations, implied consent is rape, non-verbal consent isn't.

[Samuraikoku]

What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.

He's saying laws that define what is rape are just "opinionnnnnnnnnnnnns!" and not facts. Say, were you in a murder case, would you tell the judge "but the law is just an OPINION! It's not a fact!"?

[Choronzon]

if you can't prove it, you can't prove it. But that's why it's innocent until proven guilty, smart one.

So now everyone should have witnesses and a way to record things before sex ?

You're terrible at this.

[Kvatchdom]

What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.

He's saying laws that define what is rape are just "opinionnnnnnnnnnnnns!" and not facts. Say, were you in a murder case, would you tell the judge "but the law is just an OPINION! It's not a fact!"?

These people exist?

[Samuraikoku]

I'm struggling to guess what Asian country he could be from, because frankly even Turkmenistan has higher standards. Myanmar maybe?

I think he's a professor the same way I am a Captain of the Ultramarines.

[Samuraikoku]

These people exist?

Look no further than Aghny.

[Aghny]

Like i said, asia is all you are getting.

Afraid, are we, "professor"?

No, i just like my anonymity in the internet. Although you could easily narrow it down if you knew how. Find the clues yourself though sherlock

What the fuck? If you don't have consent, it's always rape. I don't care what laws say, that is the definition.

Not according to all. Why i have been arguing that it is subjective unless proven otherwise.

[Kvatchdom]

These people exist?

Look no further than Aghny.

Eww.

[Dragoria]

Afraid, are we, "professor"?

The only biology professor in the world who doesn't know first year biology. But apparently he's not an "expert," "just a professor."

I'm struggling to guess what Asian country he could be from, because frankly even Turkmenistan has higher standards. Myanmar maybe?

Does North Korea count?