What liberal media?

[The_pantless_hero]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_election_rdp

The so called "liberal media" is pulling the GOP's victory wagon around while completely ignoring a HUGE Democratic victory where it REALLY matters - the fucking US Congress.
The news is hyping the living fuck out of two governor victories by the GOP - one over a very unpopular Democratic governor (meaning the Democrats couldn't contest), and another one where even the AP admits the governor won because a normally Republican district that Obama won voted *gasp* Republican!

In Virginia, McDonnell won by big margins in rapidly growing, far-flung Washington, D.C., suburbs — places like Loudoun and Prince William counties — that Republicans historically have won but where Obama prevailed last fall by winning over independents and swing voters.

Woohoo, the Republicans won internal state victories, good for them! You know which victory the media is playing down as hard as it can? The victory of Democrat Bill Owens for US Congress in a district that hasn't elected a Democrat ever. I mean 200 fucking years ever. Not only that, but that victory shows the split in the GOP - the hardcore conservatives vs the Republicans. The hardcore conservatives threw all their weight behind an out-of-district candidate because the GOP candidate that could have actually won was too moderate for them. This caused the moderate right-wing candidate to pull out of the race which gave a literally historically Republican seat to a Democrat. Is the media playing this up? No one will but liberal bloggers, the 'liberal' media will flog the dead horse of governor race victories until 2010 and talk how it shows Obama is powerless in obtaining Democratic victories for Congress.

If there were a "liberal" media, they would be hammering in that wedge and trying to split the Republicans between the ones that want to win and the ones that are batshit insane.

[South Lorenya]

Unfortunately, the traitors homophobes gay marriage opponents managed to pass proposition 1 on Maine.

When you get down to it, the far-right is pretty damned clsoe to being one giant facepalm.

[Greed and Death]

liberal or conservative they like a flashy story.
whats more exciting republicans staging a possible comeback or democrats get another seat in the house ?

[Desperate Measures]

liberal or conservative they like a flashy story.
whats more exciting republicans staging a possible comeback or democrats get another seat in the house ?

Dinosaurs are more exciting than either scenario. All the news media outlets are decidedly biased against the Cretaceous Period.

[Ifreann]

liberal or conservative they like a flashy story.
whats more exciting republicans staging a possible comeback or democrats get another seat in the house ?

Dinosaurs are more exciting than either scenario. All the news media outlets are decidedly biased against the Cretaceous Period.

"FEMA is quoted as being 'cautiously confident' that T-Rex attacks are 'unlikely'. The public are advised not to let their guard down none the less, and to report and suspicious dinosaur activity at once"

[Desperate Measures]

liberal or conservative they like a flashy story.
whats more exciting republicans staging a possible comeback or democrats get another seat in the house ?

Dinosaurs are more exciting than either scenario. All the news media outlets are decidedly biased against the Cretaceous Period.

"FEMA is quoted as being 'cautiously confident' that T-Rex attacks are 'unlikely'. The public are advised not to let their guard down none the less, and to report and suspicious dinosaur activity at once"

FEMA. Man, are they never not at the top of their game?
mmmm double negative

[Philosophy and Hope]

Rolling Stone magazine+Jon Stewart's Daily Show=liberal media

[Bunyippie]

Unfortunately, the traitors homophobes gay marriage opponents managed to pass proposition 1 on Maine.

When you get down to it, the far-right is pretty damned clsoe to being one giant facepalm.

I concur, and as usual, the courts have to sort it out to grant rights. and before anyone jumps on me, I refer you to Loving V Virginia, Brown v Board of Education of the City of Topeka, Kansas, Roe V wade, Miranda v. Arizona, Escobedo v. Illinois, Bouie v. City of Columbia, Bell v. Maryland, Miller v. California,Aguilar v. Texas,and Malloy v. Hogan to name a few. The will of the people said blacks didn't have rightsm until the courts made them.

[Ifreann]

liberal or conservative they like a flashy story.
whats more exciting republicans staging a possible comeback or democrats get another seat in the house ?

The real media bias is bias in favour of profit. I for one an shocked and appalled. Truly shocked and appalled.

[Kryozerkia]

If by "liberal" you mean "willing to say anything, no matter how utterly absurd and unfounded, for a price and induce wide-spread hysterical paranoia over the most insignificant thing without any repercussions" then, yes, I do agree, we do have a liberal media. Otherwise, I concur with the OP, "what liberal media"?

[Bunyippie]

If by "liberal" you mean "willing to say anything, no matter how utterly absurd and unfounded, for a price and induce wide-spread hysterical paranoia over the most insignificant thing without any repercussions" then, yes, I do agree, we do have a liberal media. Otherwise, I concur with the OP, "what liberal media"?

everything other then Fox

[Andaluciae]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_election_rdp

The so called "liberal media" is pulling the GOP's victory wagon around while completely ignoring a HUGE Democratic victory where it REALLY matters - the fucking US Congress.
The news is hyping the living fuck out of two governor victories by the GOP - one over a very unpopular Democratic governor (meaning the Democrats couldn't contest), and another one where even the AP admits the governor won because a normally Republican district that Obama won voted *gasp* Republican!

In Virginia, McDonnell won by big margins in rapidly growing, far-flung Washington, D.C., suburbs — places like Loudoun and Prince William counties — that Republicans historically have won but where Obama prevailed last fall by winning over independents and swing voters.

Woohoo, the Republicans won internal state victories, good for them! You know which victory the media is playing down as hard as it can? The victory of Democrat Bill Owens for US Congress in a district that hasn't elected a Democrat ever. I mean 200 fucking years ever. Not only that, but that victory shows the split in the GOP - the hardcore conservatives vs the Republicans. The hardcore conservatives threw all their weight behind an out-of-district candidate because the GOP candidate that could have actually won was too moderate for them. This caused the moderate right-wing candidate to pull out of the race which gave a literally historically Republican seat to a Democrat. Is the media playing this up? No one will but liberal bloggers, the 'liberal' media will flog the dead horse of governor race victories until 2010 and talk how it shows Obama is powerless in obtaining Democratic victories for Congress.

If there were a "liberal" media, they would be hammering in that wedge and trying to split the Republicans between the ones that want to win and the ones that are batshit insane.

My advice would be to remember that these are off-year midterm elections. They media is trying to sell a compelling story, because that will get viewers during an election year that would garner zero national attention.

I more than half expected that when the media (tm) declared the Republican Party on life support last fall, they wanted this to be the story this fall. (I know, I'm being slightly facetious)

[A Rightist Puppet]

Wait, I'm confused here. A traditionally "Rockefeller" GOP Distict votes for a Democrat, hoorah. That should be the main news, not the one gubernatorial race in which the most Conservative canidate in years trounces the opposition and in another, a similiarly conservative, beats an incumbent who has a 2-1 advantage in registration, a 3-1 in money and a President caimpaigning for him? Yeah, sure. New York 23rd, the biggest news as long as your don't realize more money, people and energy went to the gubrnatorials.

[Neo Art]

Wait, I'm confused here. A traditionally "Rockefeller" GOP Distict votes for a Democrat, hoorah. That should be the main news, not the one gubernatorial race in which the most Conservative canidate in years trounces the opposition and in another, a similiarly conservative, beats an incumbent who has a 2-1 advantage in registration, a 3-1 in money and a President caimpaigning for him? Yeah, sure. New York 23rd, the biggest news as long as your don't realize more money, people and energy went to the gubrnatorials.

a traditional right of center state electing a right of center candidate, and another state with a DEEPLY unpopular administration voting for the opposition?

hardly breathtaking.

[New Limacon]

Virginia's past two governors have been Democrats, neither really more conservative than this year's candidate. That's at least of interest statewide, though I agree it's not too important nationally.

And in fairness to at least part of the media, Owen's win isn't going unnoticed. The headline for the New York Times article was "G.O.P Wins Two Key Governors' Races; Bloomberg Prevails in a Close Contest," but then the second paragraph of the article begins "Democrats meanwhile took heart from a closely watched Congressional race in New York..." The only reason I imagine pundits are making a big deal out of this is it goes against the predictions last year of, um, those same pundits, and the only way they can imagine their predictions were wrong is something revolutionary happening.

[Goath]

Wait, I'm confused here. A traditionally "Rockefeller" GOP Distict votes for a Democrat, hoorah. That should be the main news, not the one gubernatorial race in which the most Conservative canidate in years trounces the opposition and in another, a similiarly conservative, beats an incumbent who has a 2-1 advantage in registration, a 3-1 in money and a President caimpaigning for him? Yeah, sure. New York 23rd, the biggest news as long as your don't realize more money, people and energy went to the gubrnatorials.

A GOP district that hasn't elected a Democrat since before the Civil War. I mean, my God, there are districts in Kansas more blue.

Barack Obama could have personally walked people to the polling places and Creigh Deeds would have lost in Virginia- and Jon Corzine was deeply, deeply unpopular (the man had a 39% approval rating, for the love of pete). It's amazing New Jersey was as close as it was.

While the media and the pundits an the Republicans are trying to paint last night as bad news for the Democrats they're ignoring the only factor that could actually tell them if they're correct: Exit Polls. Exit polls say that Barack Obama is still tremendously popular in NJ and about 50% approve of him in Viriginia...and that the voters in BOTH states said he and his policies had nothing to do with their votes last night.

If we really did have a "liberal" media, doncha think they might just try to make THAT the story? Of course they would. Since there isn't a single solitary liberal news station (which isn't a bad thing, i might say- partisan news sucks) you're going to just get a repeat of the FOX News message again and again.

[A Rightist Puppet]

A GOP district that hasn't elected a Democrat since before the Civil War. I mean, my God, there are districts in Kansas more blue.

Utterly false, did that Rockefeller statement just zoom over your head, or what? New York 'Republicans' are nothing of the Kansas sort. For God's sake, look at what the original canidate was, she wouldn't of been able to get on the Democratic ticket in Kansas.

Barack Obama could have personally walked people to the polling places and Creigh Deeds would have lost in Virginia- and Jon Corzine was deeply, deeply unpopular (the man had a 39% approval rating, for the love of pete). It's amazing New Jersey was as close as it was.

And why is that? Why was it that Obama, who got crowds of people last year, couldn't even prevent a blowout?

And Christie is that much more popular? Hah, right. There's no way you can spin a Democratic stronghold, losing out to a staunch Conservative, in spite of outspending, out registering and out Obamamessiah-ing the GOP canidate several times over. There's. Just. No. Way.

Quite simply, Corzine lost out because people are tired of big government spending. They'll even support a sexist GOP canidate who speaks warmly of abortion bans, if he can get taxes down, government smaller, and business going. (i.e., the anti-Obama).

While the media and the pundits an the Republicans are trying to paint last night as bad news for the Democrats they're ignoring the only factor that could actually tell them if they're correct: Exit Polls. Exit polls say that Barack Obama is still tremendously popular in NJ and about 50% approve of him in Viriginia...and that the voters in BOTH states said he and his policies had nothing to do with their votes last night.

And you're missing the bigger point: if Democrats in states Obama got healthy margins in, get swamped, what does it mean for the dozens of Congressional members of the Democratic persuasion in McCain territory? 20 bucks on how fast health care "reform" and cap-n-trade die!

If we really did have a "liberal" media, doncha think they might just try to make THAT the story? Of course they would. Since there isn't a single solitary liberal news station (which isn't a bad thing, i might say- partisan news sucks) you're going to just get a repeat of the FOX News message again and again.

There isn't a single liberal news station? Come on, no one believes that.

[Brajh]

Unfortunately, the traitors homophobes gay marriage opponents managed to pass proposition 1 on Maine.

When you get down to it, the far-right is pretty damned clsoe to being one giant facepalm.

I concur, and as usual, the courts have to sort it out to grant rights. and before anyone jumps on me, I refer you to Loving V Virginia, Brown v Board of Education of the City of Topeka, Kansas, Roe V wade, Miranda v. Arizona, Escobedo v. Illinois, Bouie v. City of Columbia, Bell v. Maryland, Miller v. California,Aguilar v. Texas,and Malloy v. Hogan to name a few. The will of the people said blacks didn't have rightsm until the courts made them.

Gay marriage will happen, don't worry. The states just need to pass legislation, not offer referendums.

[A Rightist Puppet]

Unfortunately, the traitors homophobes gay marriage opponents managed to pass proposition 1 on Maine.

When you get down to it, the far-right is pretty damned clsoe to being one giant facepalm.

I concur, and as usual, the courts have to sort it out to grant rights. and before anyone jumps on me, I refer you to Loving V Virginia, Brown v Board of Education of the City of Topeka, Kansas, Roe V wade, Miranda v. Arizona, Escobedo v. Illinois, Bouie v. City of Columbia, Bell v. Maryland, Miller v. California,Aguilar v. Texas,and Malloy v. Hogan to name a few. The will of the people said blacks didn't have rightsm until the courts made them.

Gay marriage will happen, don't worry. The states just need to pass legislation, not offer referendums.

The people... They do not know what they want! Thank goodness you're here!

[The Tofu Islands]

The people... They do not know what they want! Thank goodness you're here!

Why do the people need to be consulted given that it only affects them if they want it to?
Why should people’s rights be up for public vote?

[Farnhamia]

The people... They do not know what they want! Thank goodness you're here!

Why do the people need to be consulted given that it only affects them if they want it to?
Why should people’s rights be up for public vote?

Because it's easier to sway voters with nasty ads than it is to influence legislators. The latter might actually ask pertinent questions, like, "And you care so much ... why?"

This goes back to the Same-Sex Marriage thread and isn't really on point here, but really, WTF difference does it make in the least if I, a woman, am legally married to the person I love, who is also a woman? How does that touch anyone else at all?

[The_pantless_hero]

A GOP district that hasn't elected a Democrat since before the Civil War. I mean, my God, there are districts in Kansas more blue.

Utterly false, did that Rockefeller statement just zoom over your head, or what? New York 'Republicans' are nothing of the Kansas sort. For God's sake, look at what the original canidate was, she wouldn't of been able to get on the Democratic ticket in Kansas.

Which is honestly the point entirely. The Republicans fielded a candidate that could win what should have been a shoe-in victory. The hardright wing of the party objected and an out-of-district hardcore conservative candidate was interjected if the race with the hardright of the Republicans behind him and the GOP officially endorsing the Republican candidate that could win. All the the hardcore conservatives being behind the hardcore conservative candidate killed the moderate (ie, winning) GOP-official-candidate Republican's campaign and she pulled out of the race. Which definitively gave the seat to the Democrat, which hasn't been a Democratic seat for MORE THAN A CENTURY. Nothing that happened yesterday was a referendum on Obama or the Democrats. However, one thing that happened yesterday was the shot heard round the world on the future of the Republican party. Do they want to win or do they want to field candidates that would be right at home in the Holy Roman Empire? The pundits and jackasses want the latter, the GOP wants the former.

[Goath]

A GOP district that hasn't elected a Democrat since before the Civil War. I mean, my God, there are districts in Kansas more blue.

Utterly false, did that Rockefeller statement just zoom over your head, or what? New York 'Republicans' are nothing of the Kansas sort. For God's sake, look at what the original canidate was, she wouldn't of been able to get on the Democratic ticket in Kansas.

Barack Obama could have personally walked people to the polling places and Creigh Deeds would have lost in Virginia- and Jon Corzine was deeply, deeply unpopular (the man had a 39% approval rating, for the love of pete). It's amazing New Jersey was as close as it was.

And why is that? Why was it that Obama, who got crowds of people last year, couldn't even prevent a blowout?

And Christie is that much more popular? Hah, right. There's no way you can spin a Democratic stronghold, losing out to a staunch Conservative, in spite of outspending, out registering and out Obamamessiah-ing the GOP canidate several times over. There's. Just. No. Way.

Quite simply, Corzine lost out because people are tired of big government spending. They'll even support a sexist GOP canidate who speaks warmly of abortion bans, if he can get taxes down, government smaller, and business going. (i.e., the anti-Obama).

While the media and the pundits an the Republicans are trying to paint last night as bad news for the Democrats they're ignoring the only factor that could actually tell them if they're correct: Exit Polls. Exit polls say that Barack Obama is still tremendously popular in NJ and about 50% approve of him in Viriginia...and that the voters in BOTH states said he and his policies had nothing to do with their votes last night.

And you're missing the bigger point: if Democrats in states Obama got healthy margins in, get swamped, what does it mean for the dozens of Congressional members of the Democratic persuasion in McCain territory? 20 bucks on how fast health care "reform" and cap-n-trade die!

If we really did have a "liberal" media, doncha think they might just try to make THAT the story? Of course they would. Since there isn't a single solitary liberal news station (which isn't a bad thing, i might say- partisan news sucks) you're going to just get a repeat of the FOX News message again and again.

There isn't a single liberal news station? Come on, no one believes that.

I'll assume you're from the NY-23, seenig as you obviously know more about it than i do. :-)

I think you're definition of "utterly false" and my definition of "oh my goodness, how ever true!" must be the same. The NY-23 isn't a conservative Republican district, but it's a Republican district, and has been held by Republicans for decades- portions of it elected a Whig more recently than a Democrat.

If you aren't from the NY-23, then you must be from Kansas since you know Scozzafava is more liberal than Kansas Democrats...in fact, she's got positions almost identical to former Governor Kathleen Sebelius (save the gay marriage thing, we're still a little behind the times out here)- on unions & abortion, Scozzafava is in line with Kansas Democrats and Moderate Republicans. And, to my actual point three of Kansas's four congressional districts have elected Democrats more recently than the NY-23 has.

I don't know if you know this, but most people don't care who endorses the folk they're voting for, they just vote for the best candidate. Creigh Deeds was an awful candidate, and Bob McDonnel wasn't. In fact, he was a much, much better candidate. I'm a Democrat, I voted for Barack Obama, I will vote for Barack Obama again....I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have voted for Creigh Deeds.

I'm not spinning Corzine's loss, but he didn't lose because he was a Democrat or because people suddenly hate Barack Obama in New Jersey. No, he lost because he was a miserable candidate and, obviously, a bad governor. Sucks to be the New Jersey Democratic Party...but it doesn't mean anything about anything national.

You can go ahead and decide Obama was the reason the voters voted for the GOP in Virginia and in New Jersey...but that isn't based on reality. According to exit polls, the voters in both states- a big majority of them in New Jersey, in fact- approve of the job Obama is doing. I'm sorry to say it, but if you think people voted for the GOP because they don't like Obama you're woefully confused. The "bigger point" is that the GOP won two state elections that were about state issues last night, and the Democrats won two congressional elections that were about federal issues. I wonder which matters more in the grand scheme of national politics.

And, no, every single TV news outlet has a conservative bias. We've got a couple of commentators on MSNBC that aren't, but that's all we got.

[Lackadaisical2]

Governors are more exciting than representatives therefore, more news coverage.

[Farnhamia]

Governors are more exciting than representatives therefore, more news coverage.

And anyway, this was an off-year, not much happening.

It's an interesting phenomenon that if the Democrats hold the Virginia governor's office the year they win the White House, they lose it the year after. Seems to happen all the time.