Is the EU likely to unite?

[CTALNH]

News at 11 nobody is innocent.

In that case you would be the first to be executed.

You don't actually have the balls to really advocate that.
But if you do.Want you to execute me

[Imperiatom]

Wales is a principality, a minor form of a kingdom.

Wales' head of state is the Queen, not the Prince of Wales. It's only a principality in name.

Even if it is "a minor form of a kingdom", NI is not.

Actually it is the British successor state to the Kingdom of Ireland so with the queen as its head of state is a kingdom of the UK.

[Free Council Communes]

Communism is a religion, at least it seems to be:

Semi-mythicalised founder (Marx)
Different sects all claiming to be the "True communism"
Religious Martyrs
Each sect has a patron saint
If something doesn't work, they were either:
No true communist
Or
They didn't do X enough
religious/political strata "High chairman at highest to lowest bureaucracy"
A will to convert all those who aren't communist
Etc

Brilliant mate, add to that that they did not agree with other religions and you have the classic monotheistic religion.

You are pathetically ignorant. My personal hero, Rosa Luxemburg (who was the leader of the German communist movement) said; "Freedom is always the freedom of dissent.".

[Saruhan]

Oh, btw, when I say communism I use it as a catch all for Maoism, Marxism, the more Radical Syndicalism, etc. Basically everyone who's not a democratic socialist, social democrat, or one of those small in-betweenie ones that I can't be arsed to remember

Anarcho syndicalists make me cry.

I know the feel lad

[Risottia]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

How about FUCK NO?

[Copenhagen Metropolis]

No.

[Divair]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

How about FUCK NO?

[Saruhan]

Brilliant mate, add to that that they did not agree with other religions and you have the classic monotheistic religion.

You are pathetically ignorant. My personal hero, Rosa Luxemburg (who was the leader of the German communist movement) said; "Freedom is always the freedom of dissent.".

And if the majority (which they will, because people love stuff) want Capitalism?

[Ostroeuropa]

To get back on topic, assuming the EU were going to unite would there be a war of any kind?
I doubt it.

[Free Council Communes]

You are pathetically ignorant. My personal hero, Rosa Luxemburg (who was the leader of the German communist movement) said; "Freedom is always the freedom of dissent.".

And if the majority (which they will, because people love stuff) want Capitalism?

Actually learn what communism is before you argue against it.

[Divair]

To get back on topic, assuming the EU were going to unite would there be a war of any kind?
I doubt it.

No.

[Arglorand]

Wales' head of state is the Queen, not the Prince of Wales. It's only a principality in name.

Even if it is "a minor form of a kingdom", NI is not.

Actually it is the British successor state to the Kingdom of Ireland so with the queen as its head of state is a kingdom of the UK.

Wrong. The successor state to the Kingdom of Great Britain and to the Kingdom of Ireland was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Once the Irish Free State seceded, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland formed and became the successor state.

[Saruhan]

To get back on topic, assuming the EU were going to unite would there be a war of any kind?
I doubt it.

Doubtful, maybe some civil disturbances ala protests, but nothing major like the Basque territories

[Ostroeuropa]

To get back on topic, assuming the EU were going to unite would there be a war of any kind?
I doubt it.

No.

Would you expect any armed conflict or rioting?
Not by national armies, but militias of some kind.
I think it's possible we may see sporadic attempts in the early days by radical bigots.

[Libertarian California]

Brilliant mate, add to that that they did not agree with other religions and you have the classic monotheistic religion.

You are pathetically ignorant. My personal hero, Rosa Luxemburg (who was the leader of the German communist movement) said; "Freedom is always the freedom of dissent.".

You sound like a Christian. You throw in quotes from people with a mythical status and think it somehow proves your point.


The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true.

[Divair]

Would you expect any armed conflict or rioting?
Not by national armies, but militias of some kind.
I think it's possible we may see sporadic attempts in the early days by radical bigots.

Some lunatics here and there, but nothing major. Maybe an entire village at the most.

[Free Council Communes]

No.

Would you expect any armed conflict or rioting?
Not by national armies, but militias of some kind.
I think it's possible we may see sporadic attempts in the early days by radical bigots.

Merkel has already taken over Europe.

[Libertarian California]

To get back on topic, assuming the EU were going to unite would there be a war of any kind?
I doubt it.

Russia might be a slightly pissed.

Also, in an effort to get more oil, the EU would probably set up shop in Libya or something.

[Risottia]

How about FUCK NO?

Let's keep it on topic and go for an Euroraspberry.

[Saruhan]

And if the majority (which they will, because people love stuff) want Capitalism?

Actually learn what communism is before you argue against it.

A classless, Stateless society in which the means of production are shared among the proletariat. I know. I just don't like it would be possible to maintain our standard of living like that. What if people simply don't want to do some job? I know that if we have a bunch of people move to where their dream jobs in Moscow are than the industry in Vladivostok is going to suffer from lack of workers

[Free Council Communes]

You are pathetically ignorant. My personal hero, Rosa Luxemburg (who was the leader of the German communist movement) said; "Freedom is always the freedom of dissent.".

You sound like a Christian. You throw it quotes for people with a mythical status and think it somehow proves your point.


The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true.

Capitalism is a religion, it advocates complete devotion to profits.

[Vestr-Norig]

Fully united? Probably not, although many fanatic europhiles would like it to be.

[Libertarian California]

And if the majority (which they will, because people love stuff) want Capitalism?

Actually learn what communism is before you argue against it.

Actually learn what Christianity and Islam are before you argue against them.

[Risottia]

Russia might be a slightly pissed.

Actually, the US would be far more pissed about it.

As if we really gave a fuck, though.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

You're talking bullshit.

As a perfect example of this, nothing would prevent FST here from running "To the right" of me if we were to suddenly turn the UK syndicalist.
If I understand correctly, he's somewhat more minarchist than I am, and yet both of us are "socialists" despite being pretty big on market forces and such, and democracy.

Well, yeah. There are all sorts of things chasing around my mind which I haven't quite sorted out yet; hopefully they'll be something properly coherent by the end of the year.

Essentially, I'm somewhat neutral towards the market; I can accept its necessity in the current world state of affairs and for a time after the revolution, but ideally I'd like to see a situation eventually where labour is mechanised and sufficiently efficient that it produces enough for everyone, eliminating the market as a thing.

But post-revolution, I wouldn't have a problem with capitalists doing their own thing and forming capitalist communes or capitalist businesses in general, provided it was with the common consent of those involved and that they were willing to be taxed to an extent.

I mean, in the end I'd like to see Europe as a collection of communes under a night-watchman state; essentially a vastly devolved EU, but one in which there is nonetheless the potential to act on the world stage through elected and recallable officials, before an eventual transition to full communism if the majority of those within the minarchist EU were in favour.