Is the EU likely to unite?

[Saruhan]

By 2200, we could at least have a common currency for the US and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, etc. Perhaps a political union could not work, but closer economic and military ties would be ideal.

Basically, the Anglo nations form their own power bloc.

By 2200, the US won't be an Anglo nation anymore.

in the sense that the vast majority's native language is English? in that case in never was

[CTALNH]

What nothing beats a pipe bomb us an attention grabber

It also makes people hate you and less willing to support you.

They wouldn't support you in the first place then.

[Imperiatom]

They are getting closer to "winning" and if they win then butt well and truly kicked.

They're not, no, unless you have a bizarre definition of the word "winning". You're currently on 0 examples.

If northern Ireland leaves the K they have won and by gradually becoming the largest political party there they are getting closer. once they have a clear majority they will vote and demand Independence.

[Free Council Communes]

It would actually be more accurate to call it "Merkel's Union". The motto ought to be; "Ein Volk, ein Europa, ein Kanzler". The EU has become nothing more than Merkel's tool for enforcing austerity upon the European working class.

[Greed and Death]

The EU is at that point it needs to decide whether it is moving toward federalism or if it is just a trade union.

How they react to this determines that.

I suspect some members will leave the EU and the remaining members will work toward federalism.

[Libertarian California]

Common culture,

Only in that we all watch American TV.

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And British TV...but that's besides the point. The common culture means me have somewhat of an identity. It's why a union between Canada and the US (while not ideal at the moment) is a lot more feasable than a union with Canada, the US, and Mexico. Cultural differences would prevent Mexico from entering the state. The thing is, Mexico would end up being like a mix of Quebec and the American South. Volatile, resisting Anglicization, etc. It would require authoritarian policies to enforce the union because cultural differences would need to be eliminated and regional ties severed in order to create a false North American identity.

Sure, but why would Australia and New Zealand share national interests with the US and Canada?

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I mean, almost every war since WWI, we've all be allies, and in the case of Iraq we contributed the most forces.

[quoteWhy wouldn't the anglosphere countries just participate in their local superstates?[/quote]

Let's look at what those superstates are:

European Union (this has a chance of working, there is some cultural homogeneity and a faint European identity)

Asian/Southeast Asian/Pacific Union- Probably not. Australia/New Zealand + Indonesia and the Philippines is bound to fail for the same reason a Union of the US and Mexico would.

North American Union-Already explained it. No.

[Imperiatom]

By 2200, we could at least have a common currency for the US and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, etc. Perhaps a political union could not work, but closer economic and military ties would be ideal.

Basically, the Anglo nations form their own power bloc.

Dreadful idea. Why would England and Ireland favour trade and economic ties with North America(across the Atlantic) or Australia(the other fucking side of the world) over trade with Europe? Because we all speak English?

Because the price we pay to the EU is loss of sovereignty whilst there would be no such price with the anglo-nations. Sometime principles are worth more than money and i don't believe once you take into account our monetary membership cost to the EU there is really much difference.

[CTALNH]

I believe in using pipe bombs to spread my political views.You?You have your pipe dream.

No you don't. You believe in talking big on the internet. If you have even a lick of sense, and I hope you do, you'll never follow through on all this murder and terrorism you like to glorify.

of course not.A smart politician always puts other people do his dirty work.

[Libertarian California]

By 2200, we could at least have a common currency for the US and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, etc. Perhaps a political union could not work, but closer economic and military ties would be ideal.

Basically, the Anglo nations form their own power bloc.

By 2200, the US won't be an Anglo nation anymore.

American English speakers will move eastwards, away from the Southwest. Anglo-America will still exist. It just won't include California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, or Texas.

[Libertarian California]

Dreadful idea. Why would England and Ireland favour trade and economic ties with North America(across the Atlantic) or Australia(the other fucking side of the world) over trade with Europe? Because we all speak English?

Because the price we pay to the EU is loss of sovereignty whilst there would be no such price with the anglo-nations. Sometime principles are worth more than money and i don't believe once you take into account our monetary membership cost to the EU there is really much difference.

An Anglo power bloc would probably better than an actual union, for practical reasons.

[Imperiatom]

Exactly, I have great respect for the British soldiers that sacrificed their lives to protect the innocents of both side as i do those who are nationalist but respect the lives and right off others but want to unite the country as one and do what they can to discredit the RIRA.

I believe in using pipe bombs to spread my political views.You?You have your pipe dream.

I do have a dream, its called knowbody gets blown up by terrorists because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Czechanada]

In the end it's going to be the Eurasian Union that becomes one country.

You mean the Eurasian Sultanate. *nods*

[Libertarian California]

In the end it's going to be the Eurasian Union that becomes one country.

You mean the Eurasian Sultanate. *nods*

Win.

[CTALNH]

I believe in using pipe bombs to spread my political views.You?You have your pipe dream.

I do have a dream, its called knowbody gets blown up by terrorists because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

News at 11 nobody is innocent.

[Free Council Communes]

I believe in using pipe bombs to spread my political views.You?You have your pipe dream.

I do have a dream, its called knowbody gets blown up by terrorists because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

[Ostroeuropa]

I do have a dream, its called knowbody gets blown up by terrorists because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

"Why the fuck are you slamming moons into the planet?!"
"We must destroy capitalism."

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

I do have a dream, its called knowbody gets blown up by terrorists because they happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

Not really, no, because by your logic herding 200 toddlers into a nursery and then shooting all of them for no reason other than to scare people is a justified tactic.

[Ostroeuropa]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

Not really, no, because by your logic herding 200 toddlers into a nursery and then shooting all of them for no reason other than to scare people is a justified tactic.

Beyond that, it's precisely the kind of shit the warhawk suicidal wings of both sides of the cold war were using.

"NUKE THE (USA/USSR)!!!"
"But everyone will die. Us too."
"All things are justified in the war against x"

[Ifreann]

They're not, no, unless you have a bizarre definition of the word "winning". You're currently on 0 examples.

If northern Ireland leaves the K they have won and by gradually becoming the largest political party there they are getting closer. once they have a clear majority they will vote and demand Independence.

You may as well suggest that if Northern Ireland detached from the island and sailed to the the Med the IRA would have won.

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Only in that we all watch American TV.

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And British TV...but that's besides the point. The common culture means me have somewhat of an identity....

You do. I see no evidence of it being common through the whole Anglosphere.

Sure, but why would Australia and New Zealand share national interests with the US and Canada?

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I mean, almost every war since WWI, we've all be allies, and in the case of Iraq we contributed the most forces.

Only because of the involvement of the UK.

Why wouldn't the anglosphere countries just participate in their local superstates?

Let's look at what those superstates are:

European Union (this has a chance of working, there is some cultural homogeneity and a faint European identity)

Asian/Southeast Asian/Pacific Union- Probably not. Australia/New Zealand + Indonesia and the Philippines is bound to fail for the same reason a Union of the US and Mexico would.

North American Union-Already explained it. No.

So...what superstates are forming that would press the Anglosphere into forming its own?

[Divair]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

"Why the fuck are you slamming moons into the planet?!"
"We must destroy capitalism."

Genocide all over the place.

[CTALNH]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

Not really, no, because by your logic herding 200 toddlers into a nursery and then shooting all of them for no reason other than to scare people is a justified tactic.

that too is a tactic.
But i am not going for world wide condemnation and everyone out for my head

[Ifreann]

Dreadful idea. Why would England and Ireland favour trade and economic ties with North America(across the Atlantic) or Australia(the other fucking side of the world) over trade with Europe? Because we all speak English?

Because the price we pay to the EU is loss of sovereignty

Voluntarily signing up to international agreements is not a loss of sovereignty, it is an exercise of sovereignty.

whilst there would be no such price with the anglo-nations.

Says who?

Sometime principles are worth more than money and i don't believe once you take into account our monetary membership cost to the EU there is really much difference.

Yes, ignoring the money you make from being in the EU really does change things.

[Imperiatom]

Because the price we pay to the EU is loss of sovereignty whilst there would be no such price with the anglo-nations. Sometime principles are worth more than money and i don't believe once you take into account our monetary membership cost to the EU there is really much difference.

An Anglo power bloc would probably better than an actual union, for practical reasons.

Exactly all the country's have gained Independence from Britain in the past so they have no desire to lose their independence and being from Britain myself i have no wish to impose our political control over those nations again. And as you say apart from the moment of Independence we have all supported each other through troubles from WW1 to 9/11

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

An Anglo power bloc would probably better than an actual union, for practical reasons.

Exactly all the country's have gained Independence from Britain in the past so they have no desire to lose their independence and being from Britain myself i have no wish to impose our political control over those nations again. And as you say apart from the moment of Independence we have all supported each other through troubles from WW1 to 9/11

Suez.

[Free Council Communes]

All tactics are justified in the fight against capitalism.

Not really, no, because by your logic herding 200 toddlers into a nursery and then shooting all of them for no reason other than to scare people is a justified tactic.

And explain how that would help bring down capitalism. I said that anything is justified in the fight against capitalism, not everything is justified when there is a fight against capitalism.