The North Korea Juche Songun Anti-Imperialist Megathread

[The Whispers]

No, I'm pretty sure you were right in that. North and South Korea were technically at war before this statement, and they are still technically at war. South Korea never signed the ceasefire either.

So, Kim Jong-Un declared war while at war with the same nation? That seems confusing.

Being Technically In A State of War, Legally, and Being In A War For Rizzle are different things. Israel and Syria are vaguely At War. Don't see that being acted on very often.

Shocking as it may seem, the whole "ho South Korea, we're at war now" declaration could be combination of: Kim Jong-Un making it easy to understand what he means, translators not knowing the full situation, and/or a deliberate attempt to make him seem like even more of a radge.

[The Whispers]

Even if they did NK wouldn't stand a chance

But, if the US attacks first wouldn't China be obliged to help because of the Mutual Protection treaty that is yet to expire on 2020?

They could always just... not uphold their end of the bargain.

[The Great Naruto Country]

If they are we just better not have to go anywhere near it.

[Saigonias]

Well if this war does happen soon, at least a massive threat to everyone, like China, wouldn't get involved as far as I know. (Did Russia also walk away?)

[Cornelius Dominion]

The map showing that was from USA today, but I think it's the range of missiles NK claims to have. There's a 99.99% chance that NK can't even get past Hawaii, let alone hit Michigan, or New York and Washington as they said they would.

Well, let's hope NK doesn't launch a secret attack on Hawaii. That'd just be unoriginal.

Lemme guess under siege xD

[The chrisman union]

Never thought I'd ever say this, but to be honest I'm on the North's side in this. The pressure on the DPRK from the US has been staggering, and this new declaration is primarily a reaction to the US flying stealth bombers over the South. If there is to be peace and prosperity in the region, the US must back off, cancel these exercises with ROK army (which in the event of war would be put entirely under the control of US Pacific command) and roll back sanctions. Isolating the DPRK will only lead to more incidents like this.

[Wisconsin9]

To take something seriously it first needs to exist.

[Hypparchia]

Obviously not, although this situation has proved one thing: US diplomacy is tragically poor, even absent. Kim Jong-un is very, very far from a lunatic. In fact, his approach is extremely methodical - he is well aware that the only way a rogue state like his to get audience is to provoke a crisis and establish talks with the US that will have long-term benefits for both countries. How do you make a crisis ? You gear up for war. Full-scale war is not to be expected, but we might see some border skirmishes like the ones in 1968 or artillery exchanges like the P'yonan bombing in 2010.

The States actually see comfort in the status quo, because it allows them to maintain their 70,000-man military contingent in Japan and South Korea very close to China, using the Korean People's Army as an excuse for that. This is one possible explanation of the unwillingness of the American government to resolve this long-standing problem. The second explanation is that the policy makers in Washington are so narrow-minded that they genuinely believe Kim is mentally deranged and will attack them. Considering that the US has long traditions in being paranoid, and that the recently stationed B2s and B52s only serve Kim's plans, I'm inclined to think it's explanation No. 2.

As for the USAF taking out North Korea - that's beyond ridiculous, kids. If it were that easy, the US would've never had the need for decade-long ground operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Battlefield" doesn't exist in the real world.

[Cornelius Dominion]

the Dictators of Norks are really Crazy cause in fact they store Porn,Films,Not Working Nukes and maybe Dildos for the Nuclear Fallout

Do you know where the hell did Norks get the idea about hitting hawaii, ahhahahah its from "Under Siege" film by i-dunno-director
Way to go dumbass

[Kor ea (Ancient)]

MAH NUKES BE READY TO BE LAUNCH AT YOU LAND FOOLISH AMERICAHN PUPPEHTS MUAHAHAHA

[Bears Armed]

I PRAY NK is foolish enough to invade the south, the my friends SK can re unite a people separated for so long under the slavery of communism

What? You'd submit your friends in SK to the economic costs involved in reunion with the north?!? Ask the West Germans how easy their reunification with the east -- which was in a lot better shape than NK is -- has been...

[Emilio Aguinaldo]

the Dictators of Norks are really Crazy cause in fact they store Porn,Films,Not Working Nukes and maybe Dildos for the Nuclear Fallout

Do you know where the hell did Norks get the idea about hitting hawaii, ahhahahah its from "Under Siege" film by i-dunno-director
Way to go dumbass

This looks like flamebait to me, good thing the north koreans don't have internet anyways

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Do you know where the hell did Norks get the idea about hitting hawaii, ahhahahah its from "Under Siege" film by i-dunno-director

Pearl harbor, anybody?

[Fine Fellows]

hopefully North Korea doesn't start a war with the US...

In theory, doesn't this mean the US and NK are now at war? Seoul could probably defeat Pyongyang even without Wash D.C., though.

[Heavenly Peace]

If North Korea was left to its own devices, away from the interference of the UN and America, I doubt we would have these problems to-day. The Kim family care for nothing more than the consolidation of power. They know that having a war would most definitely mean their defeat. If they wish to hang on to their throne they will not start another war, unless that is, if they are deluded.

[Fine Fellows]

... they ARE deluded. Each successive Kim a bit more than the previous, imo. Add to that that I think Kim-Jong-Un isn't even properly in charge but mostly a figurehead of a military junta (the wrinkly men with the big hats), and it doesn't really seem as if the position of the Kims is quite as important as a cursory glance might suggest.

[Ksclve]

I say it was a mistake to help them in a first place

[Empire of Symphonia]

Meh. I don't believe that KJU is that informed enough to care about his country, since all be would probably care for is the goods his regime requisitions from the people. I mean, he looks like a princeling who has been fed by servants for too long to give much thought on governance. Thus, I think it is the military that is in control. If the North Korea's generals want to start a war, let them. They'll be crushed by either China or the US alliance.

China - They don't want American forces on their border, so in the event of war, they would probably to be claiming to be the goods guys and moving to crush regime and replace it with their own.

US/SK/Japan - Depending on who gets to Pyongyang first, if the US alliance does, then North Korea will probably be destroyed forever. Unless Japan rejects the idea of South Korea getting stronger. But thats another issue.

[Death Metal]

MAH NUKES BE READY TO BE LAUNCH AT YOU LAND FOOLISH AMERICAHN PUPPEHTS MUAHAHAHA

I'm So Ronery
I'm so ronery
So ronery
So ronery and sadry arone

There's no one
Just me onry
Sitting on my rittle throne
I work very hard and make up great prans
But nobody ristens, no one understands
Seems that no one takes me serirousry

And so I'm ronery
A little ronery
Poor rittre me

There's nobody
I can rerate to
Feer rike a bird in a cage
It's kinda sihry
But not rearry
Because it's fihring my body with rage

I work rearry hard to stay nice and fit
But none of the women seem to give a shit
When I rure the world maybe they'rr notice me
But untir then I'rr just be ronery
Rittre ronery, poor rittre me
I'm so ronery
I'm so ronery

[Screensaver]

Yes and here is why. While it is true that the North Korean government has a history of making empty threats the fact is that these threats are becoming more frequent. North Korea is also more dangerous now than it was 10 years ago since they possess nuclear weapons. In addition to that North Korea has been becoming more and more aggressive over the years with the 2009 nuclear test, the 2010 unprovoked sinking of a South Korean Navy corvette, and the bombardment of Yeonpyeong. Kim Jong-Un actually seems, in my opinion, more insane than Kim Jong-il. There is actually evidence to suggest that it was Kim Jong-Un who order the sinking of the South Korean Navy corvette and the bombardment of the South Korean island to boost his military credentials. I won't put it past Kim Jong-Un to actually wage a full scale war and genuinely believe that North Korea will survive the wrath of South Korea and the United States.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

Yes and here is why. While it is true that the North Korean government has a history of making empty threats the fact is that these threats are becoming more frequent. North Korea is also more dangerous now than it was 10 years ago since they possess nuclear weapons. In addition to that North Korea has been becoming more and more aggressive over the years with the 2009 nuclear test, the 2010 unprovoked sinking of a South Korean Navy corvette, and the bombardment of Yeonpyeong. Kim Jong-Un actually seems, in my opinion, more insane than Kim Jong-il. There is actually evidence to suggest that it was Kim Jong-Un who order the sinking of the South Korean Navy corvette and the bombardment of the South Korean island to boost his military credentials. I won't put it past Kim Jong-Un to actually wage a full scale war and genuinely believe that North Korea will survive the wrath of South Korea and the United States.

Basically this.

Before with Kim jong-il he had nothing to prove. But this new fella might want to wet his appetite for some blood and violence. He certainly seems keen to follow the same rhetoric.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Yes, they are testing our patience for them to forge a peaceful deal with the south. If they continue to go on the same route then many countries are going to give up on Kim Jong-un's regime, revoke recognition of North Korea and support intervention instead.

In my opinion, it is more of deep annoyance, rather than fear.

[The Rich Port]

I don't know what to think.

The U.N. is taking them seriously, but they could honestly just be overreacting...

But they're the U.N. Most of the time, they don't do shit.

[The Rich Port]

So... They never signed an official peace treaty, they've used this status of perpetual war for propaganda purposes...

And NOW they're "for realsies"?

[Phocidaea]

More seriously than I normally would, but I still consider them dubious (and with good reason).

[Herrebrugh]

Nope.

North Korea likes to act up every so often.