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Why I voted yes

Postby Achren » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:25 am

Yes. I'm worried they'll follow through and America will have to destroy them. In short, I'm not scared for us, but for them.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:26 am

Nope. Quite used to it now.

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Postby Heavenly Peace » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:35 pm

Am I the only one who has an incredibly strange desire to visit North Korea as a tourist?
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Postby German Shepherds » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:27 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:Am I the only one who has an incredibly strange desire to visit North Korea as a tourist?

I maybe would but as soon as they figured out I was American I'd have to skeedaddle....
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German Shepherds wrote:We don't have a toy industry if relations with China go south.


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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:47 pm

German Shepherds wrote:
Heavenly Peace wrote:Am I the only one who has an incredibly strange desire to visit North Korea as a tourist?

I maybe would but as soon as they figured out I was American I'd have to skeedaddle....


I'm pretty sure having tourists murdered in your country is never a good thing.

Plus, knowing North Korea they'll do some stupid propaganda shit about how you died in the country because you were high on marijuana or something and you tried to rape children and that they conducted the investigation themselves and the U.N. didn't need to step in at all, ensuring someone would get pissed off at NK enough to declare war.

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Postby German Shepherds » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:48 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
German Shepherds wrote:I maybe would but as soon as they figured out I was American I'd have to skeedaddle....


I'm pretty sure having tourists murdered in your country is never a good thing.

Plus, knowing North Korea they'll do some stupid propaganda shit about how you died in the country because you were high on marijuana or something and you tried to rape children and that they conducted the investigation themselves and the U.N. didn't need to step in at all, ensuring someone would get pissed off at NK enough to declare war.

That's actually very accurate haha
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German Shepherds wrote:We don't have a toy industry if relations with China go south.


We don't need the PRC, we have Santa.

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Postby Nui Magna » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:24 pm

When North Korea's neighbors don't take them seriously, you know something's up.
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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:32 pm

To avoid a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" situation, we must be aware of NK's whereabouts and what-are-they-doings.
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Postby Notbotswana » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:50 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:Am I the only one who has an incredibly strange desire to visit North Korea as a tourist?


I'm with you.

I'm interested in how places are "packaged" by companies and governments and so I find escorted tours with tightly-controlled messages, restricted views, and really strict behavioral rules to be weirdly fascinating. My favorites have been the Coors Brewery in Golden during a labor strike, a coal strip mine in Gillette, Wyoming, and the Palace of Parliament in Bucharest, Romania. I'm hoping to go on the official tar sands tour in Fort McMurray this summer.

The masters in this tourism niche must be North Korea. Closed curtains on the airline flights, gov't determined itineraries and accommodations, constant surveillance, 24/7 minders, camera and conversational restrictions, etc. Where else can you get an extreme experience like this?

As far as the NK threats ... if anything actually happens, the big worry will be how China reacts, not NK.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:51 pm

Notbotswana wrote:
Heavenly Peace wrote:Am I the only one who has an incredibly strange desire to visit North Korea as a tourist?


I'm with you.

I'm interested in how places are "packaged" by companies and governments and so I find escorted tours with tightly-controlled messages, restricted views, and really strict behavioral rules to be weirdly fascinating. My favorites have been the Coors Brewery in Golden during a labor strike, a coal strip mine in Gillette, Wyoming, and the Palace of Parliament in Bucharest, Romania. I'm hoping to go on the official tar sands tour in Fort McMurray this summer.

The masters in this tourism niche must be North Korea. Closed curtains on the airline flights, gov't determined itineraries and accommodations, constant surveillance, 24/7 minders, camera and conversational restrictions, etc. Where else can you get an extreme experience like this?

As far as the NK threats ... if anything actually happens, the big worry will be how China reacts, not NK.


I'm with you. It'll be a wonder to observe, with your own naked eye, the last Stalinist state on Earth.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:55 pm

Fruition wrote:
Notbotswana wrote:
I'm with you.

I'm interested in how places are "packaged" by companies and governments and so I find escorted tours with tightly-controlled messages, restricted views, and really strict behavioral rules to be weirdly fascinating. My favorites have been the Coors Brewery in Golden during a labor strike, a coal strip mine in Gillette, Wyoming, and the Palace of Parliament in Bucharest, Romania. I'm hoping to go on the official tar sands tour in Fort McMurray this summer.

The masters in this tourism niche must be North Korea. Closed curtains on the airline flights, gov't determined itineraries and accommodations, constant surveillance, 24/7 minders, camera and conversational restrictions, etc. Where else can you get an extreme experience like this?

As far as the NK threats ... if anything actually happens, the big worry will be how China reacts, not NK.


I'm with you. It'll be a wonder to observe, with your own naked eye, the last Stalinist state on Earth.

Do you know what stalinist means?
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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:56 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Fruition wrote:
I'm with you. It'll be a wonder to observe, with your own naked eye, the last Stalinist state on Earth.

Do you know what stalinist means?


Pertaining to a Joseph Stalin style of "socialism".....?

I'm wrong, aren't I?
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Postby Notbotswana » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:14 pm

Fruition wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Do you know what stalinist means?


Pertaining to a Joseph Stalin style of "socialism".....?

I'm wrong, aren't I?


While "Stalinist" could be thought of as a combination of political traits that characterized the USSR during the mid-20th century, maybe it can be used more generally and efficiently describe to other places in the contemporary world.

It seems like an appropriate way to describe NK (communist, totalitarian, paranoid, militaristic, etc.) with a single adjective.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:31 pm

Notbotswana wrote:
Fruition wrote:
Pertaining to a Joseph Stalin style of "socialism".....?

I'm wrong, aren't I?


While "Stalinist" could be thought of as a combination of political traits that characterized the USSR during the mid-20th century, maybe it can be used more generally and efficiently describe to other places in the contemporary world.

It seems like an appropriate way to describe NK (communist, totalitarian, paranoid, militaristic, etc.) with a single adjective.


Thank you. I read that off a NYTimes article.
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Postby Grad Duchy of Luxembourg » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:05 pm

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There's a difference between joint military exercises with another nation and saying "I'm gonna nuke you to oblivion!"


I'm not talking about clearly toothless threats. DPRK is great at those, much better than the US in fact...

I'm talking about actual actions. The DPRK has engaged in hostile military action... oh a couple tiny times against the South (sinking a fishing boat here and there, etc)...

The US has intervened or invaded other countries without provocation how many times? Just sayin'. We don't threaten to bomb the innocent populations of foreign countries that offer no real threat to our national security whatsoever... we just do it.

I wouldn't call North Korea's sinking of a SK corvette and bombing of an island a "small matter".
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:07 pm

Notbotswana wrote:
Fruition wrote:
Pertaining to a Joseph Stalin style of "socialism".....?

I'm wrong, aren't I?


While "Stalinist" could be thought of as a combination of political traits that characterized the USSR during the mid-20th century, maybe it can be used more generally and efficiently describe to other places in the contemporary world.

It seems like an appropriate way to describe NK (communist, totalitarian, paranoid, militaristic, etc.) with a single adjective.

NK is not communist, nor paranoid.
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Postby Getica » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:09 pm

I wasn't, but then North Korea threatened to shut down the joint-economic zones and is now barring South Koreans from entering them. Then I started to pay attention. To me, that's a sign that the DPRK means business this time around. And we don't know much about Kim Jong-un, so I don't think we can rely on previous saber-rattling by Kim Jong-il as a reliable predictor of their actions.

Hard to believe that just a few years ago, the President of South Korea stood side by side with Kim Jong-il at an inter-Korea summit. Some kind of peaceful reunification seemed possible then.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:10 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Notbotswana wrote:
While "Stalinist" could be thought of as a combination of political traits that characterized the USSR during the mid-20th century, maybe it can be used more generally and efficiently describe to other places in the contemporary world.

It seems like an appropriate way to describe NK (communist, totalitarian, paranoid, militaristic, etc.) with a single adjective.

NK is not communist, nor paranoid.


... Are ya sure about that last part?

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:12 pm

Over the last few months, I've been mostly ignoring the situation as just more of the same, but keeping an eye on thye news for mention of the Kaesong zone.

Well, that just hit the news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22011207

This means things are getting more serious.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:14 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:NK is not communist, nor paranoid.


... Are ya sure about that last part?

Yes.

Because every nation who opposes the US is paranoid amirite billy bob
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Postby Free Detroit » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:14 pm

Grad Duchy of Luxembourg wrote:
Free Detroit wrote:
I'm not talking about clearly toothless threats. DPRK is great at those, much better than the US in fact...

I'm talking about actual actions. The DPRK has engaged in hostile military action... oh a couple tiny times against the South (sinking a fishing boat here and there, etc)...

The US has intervened or invaded other countries without provocation how many times? Just sayin'. We don't threaten to bomb the innocent populations of foreign countries that offer no real threat to our national security whatsoever... we just do it.

I wouldn't call North Korea's sinking of a SK corvette and bombing of an island a "small matter".


It's small at the scale of international armed conflict.

The fact remains, based on any rational assessment of history, that the US is far more likely to start a war (or resume hostilities, if you wanna get technical) with NK than the other way around.
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Postby Getica » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:15 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Over the last few months, I've been mostly ignoring the situation as just more of the same, but keeping an eye on thye news for mention of the Kaesong zone.

Well, that just hit the news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22011207

This means things are getting more serious.


Exactly. Tough talk from the North is nothing new, but shutting down one of their few sources of outside income? That's a big deal.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:15 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
... Are ya sure about that last part?

Yes.

Because every nation who opposes the US is paranoid amirite billy bob


Well, when they have barely any resources and the U.S. doesn't have any plans to take them over and, indeed, the U.S. is physically not in a position to take any interest... Yeah.

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Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:16 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:NK is not communist, nor paranoid.


... Are ya sure about that last part?


If they were paranoid, they would have launched nuclear bombs towards U.S. coasts years ago.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:16 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Yes.

Because every nation who opposes the US is paranoid amirite billy bob


Well, when they have barely any resources and the U.S. doesn't have any plans to take them over and, indeed, the U.S. is physically not in a position to take any interest... Yeah.

They said the same about the US in 1776.
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