Your Views, Beliefs, and Criticism of Psychics?

[Ovisterra]

I have personal experience of the surface of Pluto.

I've won 15 Nobel Prizes for doing science.

Sounds plausible. Plausible isn't the same as true, though. Surely if this is such basic science you'll be able to find evidence of it happening.

And again. Suppose people and animals can feel the fluctuations in the local magnetic field supposedly caused by earthquakes. How is that predicting earthquakes and not just feeling them as they happen?

Look i would neeed to do serious and expensive experiments to support that level of proof you require. Or do tens of hours of explainig. HIre a science teacher or me, as I mentioned I'm inexpensive.
and:
Questioning, personal claims is unwise. I could send you a copy of my applicaton for BME-VBK but since it is in Hungarian you wouldn't accept it as proof. Also it contains sensitive information.
Look I would need to render complex computer animations and fuel expensive experiments, and record them on video or do ten of hours of explaining go hire a science teacher. Or me. As I mentioned above my services are cheap.

I thought it was "basic science"? I thought there was "data everywhere"?

[Ifreann]

I have personal experience of the surface of Pluto.

I've won 15 Nobel Prizes for doing science.

Sounds plausible. Plausible isn't the same as true, though. Surely if this is such basic science you'll be able to find evidence of it happening.

And again. Suppose people and animals can feel the fluctuations in the local magnetic field supposedly caused by earthquakes. How is that predicting earthquakes and not just feeling them as they happen?

Look i would neeed to do serious and expensive experiments to support that level of proof you require. Or do tens of hours of explainig. HIre a science teacher or me, as I mentioned I'm inexpensive.

I'm not proposing you do original research or replicate experiments. I'm suggesting you find things like articles from reputable sources talking about these things you're claiming.

and:
Questioning, personal claims is unwise. I could send you a copy of my applicaton for BME-VBK but since it is in Hungarian you wouldn't accept it as proof. Also it contains sensitive information.

On the contrary, it is asserting personal authority in support of one's claims and arguments that is unwise, especially on the internet. Round the internet, we tend to doubt almost everything people claim about themselves, because people over the years have used the anonymity of the net to claim all manner of bullshit about themselves.

[United Republics of Aralon]

Look i would neeed to do serious and expensive experiments to support that level of proof you require. Or do tens of hours of explainig. HIre a science teacher or me, as I mentioned I'm inexpensive.
and:
Questioning, personal claims is unwise. I could send you a copy of my applicaton for BME-VBK but since it is in Hungarian you wouldn't accept it as proof. Also it contains sensitive information.
Look I would need to render complex computer animations and fuel expensive experiments, and record them on video or do ten of hours of explaining go hire a science teacher. Or me. As I mentioned above my services are cheap.

I thought it was "basic science"? I thought there was "data everywhere"?

Yeah but if you don't accept basic logical arguments, and you need deep explanations or physical proof which I cant supply over the internet. And yeah basic science takes years to learn. That is s what highschool is for. Were you trimming your nails during science class, or your crappy school is to blame?
EDIT: Ifreann I' am deleting my comments part of our debate prior to this one tomorrow. I beg you to do the same we shouldn't destroy this topic with our flaming.

[Normandywe]

I thought it was "basic science"? I thought there was "data everywhere"?

Yeah but if you don't accept basic logical arguments, and you need deep explanations or physical proof which I cant supply over the internet. And yeah basic science takes years to learn. That is s what highschool is for. Were you trimming your nails during science class, or your crappy school is to blame?
EDIT: Ifreann I' am deleting my comments part of our debate prior to this one tomorrow. I beg you to do the same we shouldn't destroy this topic with our flaming.

It's quite fine, friend: You won.

[Schwabenreich]

Can't decide if I have more disdain for those who would take advantage of others' gullibility or for those who are gullible enough to fall for such nonesense. It's clearly nonesense.

This.

[Sophian]

I once dreamt of an event, and the event occurred the next day. It wasn't significant or extremely relevant to my life. My girlfriend's mom had recently broken up with her boyfriend, and they were on really bad terms, but I had a dream that he came to the house and was chillin' with everybody like old times even though they were on bad terms, and the next day it happened. This is the one and only time I can ever remember dreaming something, and the exact same thing happened the next day, so I can't claim to be clairvoyant. I guess if you have over 7,000 dreams in your lifetime, eventually one of those dreams might come true the next day. It could just be a strange coincidence. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[Normandywe]

I once dreamt of an event, and the event occurred the next day. It wasn't significant or extremely relevant to my life. My girlfriend's mom had recently broken up with her boyfriend, and they were on really bad terms, but I had a dream that he came to the house and was chillin' with everybody like old times even though they were on bad terms, and the next day it happened. This is the one and only time I can ever remember dreaming something, and the exact same thing happened the next day, so I can't claim to be clairvoyant. I guess if you have over 7,000 dreams in your lifetime, eventually one of those dreams might come true the next day. It could just be a strange coincidence. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Perhaps your brain experienced a miniature seizure and your mind confused the order of events, believing the event to have been a recent dream; perhaps it was a coincidence; perhaps the dream was produced by anticipation of various values as analyzed by your brain in its unconscious form.

edit: Or perhaps you've become insane and your brain is desperately fabricating memories to recover that which it cannot recall.

[Sophian]

I once dreamt of an event, and the event occurred the next day. It wasn't significant or extremely relevant to my life. My girlfriend's mom had recently broken up with her boyfriend, and they were on really bad terms, but I had a dream that he came to the house and was chillin' with everybody like old times even though they were on bad terms, and the next day it happened. This is the one and only time I can ever remember dreaming something, and the exact same thing happened the next day, so I can't claim to be clairvoyant. I guess if you have over 7,000 dreams in your lifetime, eventually one of those dreams might come true the next day. It could just be a strange coincidence. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Perhaps your brain experienced a miniature seizure and your mind confused the order of events, believing the event to have been a recent dream; perhaps it was a coincidence; perhaps the dream was produced by anticipation of various values as analyzed by your brain in its unconscious form.

I certainly did not confuse the order of events or have a seizure. I remembered the dream as soon as I woke up, thought it was a strange dream, then I arrived to the girl's house, the dude was at the house and I was just like weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddd. So I'm inclined to hypothesize about 2 possibilities (1. It was a coincidence) or (2. It was genuine insight).

[United Republics of Aralon]

I once dreamt of an event, and the event occurred the next day. It wasn't significant or extremely relevant to my life. My girlfriend's mom had recently broken up with her boyfriend, and they were on really bad terms, but I had a dream that he came to the house and was chillin' with everybody like old times even though they were on bad terms, and the next day it happened. This is the one and only time I can ever remember dreaming something, and the exact same thing happened the next day, so I can't claim to be clairvoyant. I guess if you have over 7,000 dreams in your lifetime, eventually one of those dreams might come true the next day. It could just be a strange coincidence. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Perhaps your brain experienced a miniature seizure and your mind confused the order of events, believing the event to have been a recent dream; perhaps it was a coincidence; perhaps the dream was produced by anticipation of various values as analyzed by your brain in its unconscious form.

This is a way to complicated explanation ( the seizure). The second proposal sounds better.Probably he/she(there is a real urgent need for a neuter gender pronoun in English with the advent of the internet.) has good emotional intelligence and emapthy and them coming on good terms was "in the air". He/She percieved the emotions of people and put it together in her dream. In our dream the brain reevaluates epsiodes of our life that left a lasting impression, usually the pretty recent ones.Most claims of precognition, especially short term and dream related can be explained by the combination of subconscious reasoning and spoonful of luck.I think most physically possible claims of psychic feats are explainable via simple phenomenons(mostly subconscious reasoning), or by their ambiguity which allows them to be bent until covering the facts. The rest either didn't happen or was luck.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Perhaps your brain experienced a miniature seizure and your mind confused the order of events, believing the event to have been a recent dream; perhaps it was a coincidence; perhaps the dream was produced by anticipation of various values as analyzed by your brain in its unconscious form.

I certainly did not confuse the order of events or have a seizure. I remembered the dream as soon as I woke up, thought it was a strange dream, then I arrived to the girl's house, the dude was at the house and I was just like weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddd. So I'm inclined to hypothesize about 2 possibilities (1. It was a coincidence) or (2. It was genuine insight).

One of those two possibilities is far less so than the other.
One involves a dream just so happening to match reality. Dreams are ultimately based in reality - your brain can't work with what it doesn't know. You can't imagine what ultraviolet looks like or describe colour to someone who's been blind from birth.
The other involves you having the ability to defy all known science.

[Normandywe]

Perhaps your brain experienced a miniature seizure and your mind confused the order of events, believing the event to have been a recent dream; perhaps it was a coincidence; perhaps the dream was produced by anticipation of various values as analyzed by your brain in its unconscious form.

I certainly did not confuse the order of events or have a seizure. I remembered the dream as soon as I woke up, thought it was a strange dream, then I arrived to the girl's house, the dude was at the house and I was just like weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddd. So I'm inclined to hypothesize about 2 possibilities (1. It was a coincidence) or (2. It was genuine insight).

Titchener's book A Textbook of Psychology has given me to believe that the abnormal insight of the mind, as caused by an 'miniature' seizure, would evade your primary perception; such an experience would be detected only by the fact of itself.

[United Republics of Aralon]

I certainly did not confuse the order of events or have a seizure. I remembered the dream as soon as I woke up, thought it was a strange dream, then I arrived to the girl's house, the dude was at the house and I was just like weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddd. So I'm inclined to hypothesize about 2 possibilities (1. It was a coincidence) or (2. It was genuine insight).

Titchener's book A Textbook of Psychology has given me to believe that the abnormal insight of the mind, as caused by an 'miniature' seizure, would evade your primary perception; such an experience would be detected only by the fact of itself.

One of my family members had a series of miniatures seizures. They are not likely events, and don't always cause vivsions, in this case they caused lack of vision a temporary disturbance in eyesight.They also only tend to happen to old people.

[Normandywe]

Titchener's book A Textbook of Psychology has given me to believe that the abnormal insight of the mind, as caused by an 'miniature' seizure, would evade your primary perception; such an experience would be detected only by the fact of itself.

One of my family members had a series of miniatures seizures. They are not likely events, and don't always cause vivsions, in this case they caused lack of vision a temporary disturbance in eyesight.They also only tend to happen to old people.

Seizures are responsible for déjà vu, and on that idea alone do I find the experience to be much broader than how you've described it.

[United Republics of Aralon]

One of my family members had a series of miniatures seizures. They are not likely events, and don't always cause vivsions, in this case they caused lack of vision a temporary disturbance in eyesight.They also only tend to happen to old people.

Seizures are responsible for déjà vu, and on that idea alone do I find the experience to be much broader than how you've described it.

I heard an entirely other explanation for déja vu from a highschool teacher of mine(i don't believe this one either, I am by no means an expert, but I reject the idea to link such happenings with physiological reasons) according to this nervous transmit slows down from one of your eyes a bit, and there will be a slight latency of one eye compared to the other,
Tthats where the I've seen this comes from. There are claims of experiments confirming it. This seizure thing is plain WILD form me.I would like to see neurologists and neurobiologists confirm this too, to even consider accepting this opinion. Déja vu is plain more frequent than mini seizures.I know a chemist who studies neurotransimts and things like that, she also has a PhD in anatomy(strange combo) I'll ask her maybe she knows a thing or two about this topic.

[Big Jim P]

Professional psychics have found a low-work, cushy gig. Good for them. However, anyone claiming psychic powers who is not already rich enough to avoid even that is obviously not a very good psychic.

[Sociobiology]

I once dreamt of an event, and the event occurred the next day. It wasn't significant or extremely relevant to my life. My girlfriend's mom had recently broken up with her boyfriend, and they were on really bad terms, but I had a dream that he came to the house and was chillin' with everybody like old times even though they were on bad terms, and the next day it happened. This is the one and only time I can ever remember dreaming something, and the exact same thing happened the next day, so I can't claim to be clairvoyant. I guess if you have over 7,000 dreams in your lifetime, eventually one of those dreams might come true the next day. It could just be a strange coincidence. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

did you write it down before the even? because otherwise you are relying on pure memory which is know to be faulty.

[Sociobiology]

I am given to understand that pigeons have some kind of magnetic sense, that being how they navigate. At least, I heard it somewhere. How is that predicting earthquakes? If earthquakes can be predicted by changes in the local magnetic field, why do we not do that?

As to googling for support for your claims, no thanks. You can support them yourself or not, but I don't think I'm going to do it for you.


Not that I'm aware of.

As before, do please support these assertions of yours.

Supposing that earthquakes have enough of an impact on the local magnetic field for animals who can perceive such things to sense the difference. So? That's not predicting an earthquake, that's feeling it when it happens.

Radar stations: Personal frigging experience.

radar is light, light travels at what speed?
the shock-wave is sound and travels at what speed?
if you are not directly on the epicenter there will be lag between the two. again measuring AFTER the event.

[Czechanada]

Explain. I never claimed I was a psychic, nor do I believe in them.

Though such gifts as ESP are likely possible, all psychics are scam artists. They try to defraud the gullible of money by putting on a clever, but empty, show.

I personally would say the same of priests. Not so much in the sense as deliberately lying, but merely telling you what you want to hear for profit. No offense meant.

[Abarrach]

It's all mumbo-jumbo

[Lunatic Goofballs]

It's all mumbo-jumbo

Stop Gravedigging Threads!