Same-Sex Marriage: Yea or Nay? And Explain!

[Milks Empire]

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against homosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against heterosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.
See how ridiculous that sounds?

Of course it sounds ridiculous. Evolution sounds ridiculous, yet it is true. My opinion is my own.

If you don't like same-sex marriage, here's some sound advice...
DON'T GET ONE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

[Albaron]

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against homosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against heterosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Of course it sounds ridiculous. Evolution sounds ridiculous, yet it is true. My opinion is my own.

actually, evoltion in a nutshell
"Over time, things change."
"The fittest species survive the best and have more kids."

Sounds kinda rational to me

Well, it does sound ridiculous in a different context. Same thing for rationalizing against same sex marriages, I'll admit that I can't. Someone probably can efficiently, and with conviction.

[Goath]

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against homosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against heterosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Of course it sounds ridiculous. Evolution sounds ridiculous, yet it is true. My opinion is my own.

Evolution doesn't sound ridiculous...

[Albaron]

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against homosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.

Nay for the usual reasons. I have nothing against heterosexuals themselves. The fact that some are open, proud about it and demanding marriage is what freaks me out.
See how ridiculous that sounds?

Of course it sounds ridiculous. Evolution sounds ridiculous, yet it is true. My opinion is my own.

If you don't like same-sex marriage, here's some sound advice...
DON'T GET ONE AND MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS.

And if you agree with it, no one cares either.

[EKJ-746]

the only problem with same sex marriage is that when the child calls out "dad" or "mum" two people are going to answer

[Bunyippie]

the only problem with same sex marriage is that when the child calls out "dad" or "mum" two people are going to answer

[JuNii]

if gay marriage becomes legal, who's to say that dogs won't be able to marry trees? I don't want to see dogs and tree's making out everywhere I go.

agreed. such a union will doom cats everywhere!

My God... THINK OF THE CATS!

[The Ambrose Islands]

HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!![/size]

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey. Show him some credit.

[Albaron]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

[Tekania]

the only problem with same sex marriage is that when the child calls out "dad" or "mum" two people are going to answer

Such a minor and easily solvable problem by not referring to both of them by the same term... My family does this dealing with certain things.... "Grandma" is called "Grandma" by both the Grandkids and Great-Grandkids... my Aunt is called "Meemaw" by her grandkids.... my aunt/uncle/mom do call my Grandma "Mumma"... My "Mom" however is refered to as "Susta" (Sister) by the cousins, neices and siblings (though I call her "Mom")... Most Great-Aunts / Great-Uncles are merely refered to a "Aunt" or "Uncle" who-ever, even by the great-grand neices/nephews....

Terminology adapts....

[Albaron]

the only problem with same sex marriage is that when the child calls out "dad" or "mum" two people are going to answer

Such a minor and easily solvable problem by not referring to both of them by the same term... My family does this dealing with certain things.... "Grandma" is called "Grandma" by both the Grandkids and Great-Grandkids... my Aunt is called "Meemaw" by her grandkids.... my aunt/uncle/mom do call my Grandma "Mumma"... My "Mom" however is refered to as "Susta" (Sister) by the cousins, neices and siblings (though I call her "Mom")... Most Great-Aunts / Great-Uncles are merely refered to a "Aunt" or "Uncle" who-ever, even by the great-grand neices/nephews....

Terminology adapts....

Noooo! Now we have no real excuse!

[Goath]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

[Sibirsky]

Yes. Simply because there are significant economic advantages to being married. Call it civil unions if you want, frankly I don't give a fuck what it is called as long as same sex couples can take advantage of those privileges as well.

[Sibirsky]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

Agreed.

[Austinboy]

Disgusting and revolting!!!!!!!

yep, my words exactly

[Goath]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

Agreed.

I'm glad we've finally found something we agree on, Sibirsky You're still wrong on economic policy, though.

[Hulk Kitty]

Reading some of the replies in this thread makes my fucking head hurt.

I could try to discuss this in a nice long-winded debate, but honestly people who say that same-sex marriage is a slippery slope and will lead to people marrying dogs are just throwing out the Hitler card and I can only address that by responding with a salmon slap. Unfortunately this is the internetz and instead I ask that the people reading this who use the 'slippery slope' argument please promptly face-desk until they lose consciousness. Thanks.

[Albaron]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

Of course it doesn't matter. However...this.

Counter-arguments like “so was slavery” are unconvincing, as the occasional slights suffered by homosexual couples are microscopic by comparison with the injustice of human beings buying and selling other human beings

There really is a slippery slope here. Once marriage has been redefined to include homosexual pairings, what grounds will there be to oppose futher redefinition — to encompass people who want to marry their ponies, their sisters, or their soccer team?

In a society in which nobody had an IQ below 120, homosexual marriage might be plausible. In the actual societies we have, other considerations kick in.

There has never, anywhere, at any level of civilization, been a society that approved egalitarian (i.e. same age, same status) homosexual bonding

Think about it, I think the author makes a strong argument.

[Tekania]

Disgusting and revolting!!!!!!!

yep, my words exactly

I know, I agree whole heartedly!!!!

Oh wait.... are we both talking about his name?

[Strangerthan]

Yes. Simply because there are significant economic advantages to being married. Call it civil unions if you want, frankly I don't give a fuck what it is called as long as same sex couples can take advantage of those privileges as well.

While I agree that the benefits of marriage is the main thing, refusing to call it a marriage implies that homosexuality is not accepted as equal to heterosexuality.

[Poliwanacraca]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

Of course it doesn't matter. However...this.

Counter-arguments like “so was slavery” are unconvincing, as the occasional slights suffered by homosexual couples are microscopic by comparison with the injustice of human beings buying and selling other human beings

There really is a slippery slope here. Once marriage has been redefined to include homosexual pairings, what grounds will there be to oppose futher redefinition — to encompass people who want to marry their ponies, their sisters, or their soccer team?

In a society in which nobody had an IQ below 120, homosexual marriage might be plausible. In the actual societies we have, other considerations kick in.

There has never, anywhere, at any level of civilization, been a society that approved egalitarian (i.e. same age, same status) homosexual bonding

Think about it, I think the author makes a strong argument.

If you think this is a "strong argument," I think you badly need to be exposed to people who aren't in the "cognitively-challenged underclass," as he puts it. I mean, seriously? "Marriage has to be limited to heterosexual people because stupid people need something to aspire to"? The fuck?

[Tekania]

Yes. Simply because there are significant economic advantages to being married. Call it civil unions if you want, frankly I don't give a fuck what it is called as long as same sex couples can take advantage of those privileges as well.

While I agree that the benefits of marriage is the main thing, refusing to call it a marriage implies that homosexuality is not accepted as equal to heterosexuality.

I disagree with a name differentiation as well.... Simple because it allows for segregation of the legal institutions between the two and a cop-out systems for states to avoid the full-faith-and-credit clause...

As such, I'm for them BOTH being called by the same legal term, I don't care if that term happens to be marriage or not.... but if you're going to have "civil unions" then remove "marriage" from the books and make ALL forms "civil unions"...

[Albaron]

I SAY THANK YOU MAINE! FOR VOTING NO FOR SAME SEX MARRIAGE, I WOULD JUST EVER PERSON WHO VOTED NO, CALI WELL THATS WHY THERE ECONOMY IS UP THE HOLE! ALLOWING SAME SEX JUST PROVES TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, HAS ANYONE HEARD OF AIDS! THANK YOU GLBT FOR BRINGING AIDS TO THIS WORLD!!!

Actually it was a guy who "messed with" a monkey

Do we actually know how it originally started? Mutated strand, I think.

And it so, so, SO doesn't matter to the discussion of same-sex marriage. It's like making points about syphilis when talking about straight marriage.

Of course it doesn't matter. However...this.

Counter-arguments like “so was slavery” are unconvincing, as the occasional slights suffered by homosexual couples are microscopic by comparison with the injustice of human beings buying and selling other human beings

There really is a slippery slope here. Once marriage has been redefined to include homosexual pairings, what grounds will there be to oppose futher redefinition — to encompass people who want to marry their ponies, their sisters, or their soccer team?

In a society in which nobody had an IQ below 120, homosexual marriage might be plausible. In the actual societies we have, other considerations kick in.

There has never, anywhere, at any level of civilization, been a society that approved egalitarian (i.e. same age, same status) homosexual bonding

Think about it, I think the author makes a strong argument.

If you think this is a "strong argument," I think you badly need to be exposed to people who aren't in the "cognitively-challenged underclass," as he puts it. I mean, seriously? "Marriage has to be limited to heterosexual people because stupid people need something to aspire to"? The fuck?

Did you even read the rest of the argument?
And even if you don;t agree with the "stupid" people, you can't deny their existence or their opinions.

[Tekania]

If you think this is a "strong argument," I think you badly need to be exposed to people who aren't in the "cognitively-challenged underclass," as he puts it. I mean, seriously? "Marriage has to be limited to heterosexual people because stupid people need something to aspire to"? The fuck?

Let's not even mention the leap from redefining to encompass a class of consenting persons to somehow slope into allowing the marriage to farm-animals and children.... Just the FACT that someone posits that automatically nullifies their entire argument.... Course, I'm not totally certain that the class of individuals actually realize how absurd they are...

EDIT: It should also be of note that the people most likely to WANT to marry their farm-animals are in the Red-States....

[Mimic]

Leaving aside my personal issues with this topic...
I hear a lot of asking anti-gay marriage to give reasons why they are against. I'd be interested to hear why some of you are pro-gay marriage.
(I am genuinely curious. Do not go around destroying me. Thank you)

Everyone is equal, which means they should have equal rights.

Unless they're me. In which case they should have godlike powers and the ability to turn into a dragon. And diplomatic immunity.

Aw man, I wanted to be the only one with the ability to turn into a dragon. You wound me, sir, wound me to the quick.

Reading some of the replies in this thread makes my fucking head hurt.

I could try to discuss this in a nice long-winded debate, but honestly people who say that same-sex marriage is a slippery slope and will lead to people marrying dogs are just throwing out the Hitler card and I can only address that by responding with a salmon slap. Unfortunately this is the internetz and instead I ask that the people reading this who use the 'slippery slope' argument please promptly face-desk until they lose consciousness. Thanks.

But homosexuality is a genetic trait. And genes are passed on through evolution. And you know who else supported evolution? That's right, HITLER!

Evolution is a lie, the earth was created in six days exactly, seven hundred years ago, and all of the evidence to the contrary was just planted by Satan to fool the unintelligent.