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Postby Anachronous Rex » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:09 pm

Duckistan wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
There are women out there who are only interested in sex, it is just that it won't be most females that you come across and you are probably looking in the wrong place. If you want a one night stand it could be as easy as visiting Craigslist and answering one of the adult personals ads and taking the risk of visiting.



What you need to keep in mind is that women are individuals with varying interests besides sex and if a woman wants a committed relationship before having sex, that is their choice and you aren't entitled to it.

It is best that you just move on to someone else that has similar interests that you do if you're not into dating. I think you being upfront about only wanting sex, is a lot more preferable to you just lying about your personality, intentions, etc. to trick a woman into sleeping with you. Your complaint about sexual harassment laws, I don't think that is a legitimate grievance. You probably wouldn't want to be sexually harassed by total strangers.



I'm celibate more out of circumstance than my own free will, but it isn't so bad. It is only boring if you make it so.

Same here, though I have gotten laid, contrary to an obvious feminist's statement earlier (that is one of their biggest insults against men who disagree with them. It's either "you have a small penis!", "You need to get laid!", or "neckbeard!")
Well, I actually kind of want both romance and sex, actually. I just want the sex and the romance easier. Maybe I'm just incredibly impatient.

Not to mention, I've been led on by women for months without even so much as a kiss.

I just don't see how me being upfront about wanting sex by asking "would you like to fuck?" is wrong. If I were asked that by a woman, even one I didn't know, I'd be downright flattered and almost certainly accept her invitation. Women for some reason seem to take offense. I don't understand it. I guess my real gripe is that I've been hurt by misuse of such laws in the past. When I was in sixth grade I had a bunch of girls accuse me of all sorts of things. I nearly went to jail, and if the principal hadn't been so willing to believe me, I would have. I think I may have some trauma left over from that whole incident all these years later. Believe it or not, I used to be extremely romantic. When I had crushes on girls before that I'd actually write them little love letters and leave them candy. I've not been the same since then. Because of that, I guess somewhere I still have a deep seated fear of being accused of some sexual crime by some bitch who just hates men.

Also, I don't trust craigslist or any of those online fuck sites. Many of the "women" on craigslist are actually men, and there are incredibly few real women on there. And the sites that you can supposedly meet sex crazed women are scams. I went onto one once. What they do is they have a bunch of what I call "bait accounts" where they send you a message saying they are interested in you. However, you can't respond without joining the site. You think you have a surefire sex partner once you sign up, but it was all a ruse to get you to become a member. Even worse, the people who aren't on there to bait you into membership on that site are people from some of the other porn sites who will send you links to paysites. It's all a big scam.

Right. Well there are some actual differences between men and women (though these are true only on a statistical level, and may vary considerably in individuals), and I'm afraid you've just stumbled upon one of them.

Men tend to use sex to feel intimacy, women tend to require intimacy before sex.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:09 pm

I don't know. I'm fairly sick of the whole "men have to be muscled bastions of manliness who eat raw steak and grunt a lot" thing.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:11 pm

Ovisterra wrote:I don't know. I'm fairly sick of the whole "men have to be muscled bastions of manliness who eat raw steak and grunt a lot" thing.

Indeed.

I mean I like my steak practically blackened.
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Postby I Want to Smash Them All » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:13 pm

Duckistan wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
There are women out there who are only interested in sex, it is just that it won't be most females that you come across and you are probably looking in the wrong place. If you want a one night stand it could be as easy as visiting Craigslist and answering one of the adult personals ads and taking the risk of visiting.



What you need to keep in mind is that women are individuals with varying interests besides sex and if a woman wants a committed relationship before having sex, that is their choice and you aren't entitled to it.

It is best that you just move on to someone else that has similar interests that you do if you're not into dating. I think you being upfront about only wanting sex, is a lot more preferable to you just lying about your personality, intentions, etc. to trick a woman into sleeping with you. Your complaint about sexual harassment laws, I don't think that is a legitimate grievance. You probably wouldn't want to be sexually harassed by total strangers.



I'm celibate more out of circumstance than my own free will, but it isn't so bad. It is only boring if you make it so.

Same here, though I have gotten laid, contrary to an obvious feminist's statement earlier (that is one of their biggest insults against men who disagree with them. It's either "you have a small penis!", "You need to get laid!", or "neckbeard!")
Well, I actually kind of want both romance and sex, actually. I just want the sex and the romance easier. Maybe I'm just incredibly impatient.

Not to mention, I've been led on by women for months without even so much as a kiss.

I just don't see how me being upfront about wanting sex by asking "would you like to fuck?" is wrong. If I were asked that by a woman, even one I didn't know, I'd be downright flattered and almost certainly accept her invitation. Women for some reason seem to take offense. I don't understand it. I guess my real gripe is that I've been hurt by misuse of such laws in the past. When I was in sixth grade I had a bunch of girls accuse me of all sorts of things. I nearly went to jail, and if the principal hadn't been so willing to believe me, I would have. I think I may have some trauma left over from that whole incident all these years later. Believe it or not, I used to be extremely romantic. When I had crushes on girls before that I'd actually write them little love letters and leave them candy. I've not been the same since then. Because of that, I guess somewhere I still have a deep seated fear of being accused of some sexual crime by some bitch who just hates men.

Also, I don't trust craigslist or any of those online fuck sites. Many of the "women" on craigslist are actually men, and there are incredibly few real women on there. And the sites that you can supposedly meet sex crazed women are scams. I went onto one once. What they do is they have a bunch of what I call "bait accounts" where they send you a message saying they are interested in you. However, you can't respond without joining the site. You think you have a surefire sex partner once you sign up, but it was all a ruse to get you to become a member. Even worse, the people who aren't on there to bait you into membership on that site are people from some of the other porn sites who will send you links to paysites. It's all a big scam.

Seriously?

You complain about not "meet[ing] sex crazed women" through porn sites, but the difficulties in your sex life are due to feminists and could not possibly be with you or your approach?
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Postby I Want to Smash Them All » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:22 pm

Duckistan wrote:I guess my real gripe is that I've been hurt by misuse of such laws in the past. When I was in sixth grade I had a bunch of girls accuse me of all sorts of things. I nearly went to jail, and if the principal hadn't been so willing to believe me, I would have.

I missed this part.

I do not believe that you "nearly went to jail" when you were in the 6th grade because of false accusations of "all sorts of things" by a "bunch of girls," but were saved because "the principal" was "so willing to believe you." Even assuming you were falsely accused of some sexual misconduct when you were in the 6th grade, a school principal is not in a position to decide whether such allegations are true or to send a student to jail.

Perhaps a bit of self-examination and familiarization of the notion of "truth" are in order.
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:29 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:I don't know. I'm fairly sick of the whole "men have to be muscled bastions of manliness who eat raw steak and grunt a lot" thing.

Indeed.

I mean I like my steak practically blackened.

Raw meat is gross.

I prefer my stuff well done.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:30 pm

I Want to Smash Them All wrote:
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Same here, though I have gotten laid, contrary to an obvious feminist's statement earlier (that is one of their biggest insults against men who disagree with them. It's either "you have a small penis!", "You need to get laid!", or "neckbeard!")
Well, I actually kind of want both romance and sex, actually. I just want the sex and the romance easier. Maybe I'm just incredibly impatient.

Not to mention, I've been led on by women for months without even so much as a kiss.

I just don't see how me being upfront about wanting sex by asking "would you like to fuck?" is wrong. If I were asked that by a woman, even one I didn't know, I'd be downright flattered and almost certainly accept her invitation. Women for some reason seem to take offense. I don't understand it. I guess my real gripe is that I've been hurt by misuse of such laws in the past. When I was in sixth grade I had a bunch of girls accuse me of all sorts of things. I nearly went to jail, and if the principal hadn't been so willing to believe me, I would have. I think I may have some trauma left over from that whole incident all these years later. Believe it or not, I used to be extremely romantic. When I had crushes on girls before that I'd actually write them little love letters and leave them candy. I've not been the same since then. Because of that, I guess somewhere I still have a deep seated fear of being accused of some sexual crime by some bitch who just hates men.

Also, I don't trust craigslist or any of those online fuck sites. Many of the "women" on craigslist are actually men, and there are incredibly few real women on there. And the sites that you can supposedly meet sex crazed women are scams. I went onto one once. What they do is they have a bunch of what I call "bait accounts" where they send you a message saying they are interested in you. However, you can't respond without joining the site. You think you have a surefire sex partner once you sign up, but it was all a ruse to get you to become a member. Even worse, the people who aren't on there to bait you into membership on that site are people from some of the other porn sites who will send you links to paysites. It's all a big scam.

Seriously?

You complain about not "meet[ing] sex crazed women" through porn sites, but the difficulties in your sex life are due to feminists and could not possibly be with you or your approach?


Indeed. I'm a self-identified feminist and I, crazily enough, don't find that this horrifies girls.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:30 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:I don't know. I'm fairly sick of the whole "men have to be muscled bastions of manliness who eat raw steak and grunt a lot" thing.

Indeed.

I mean I like my steak practically blackened.


Me too. Medium is the absolute minimum I'll eat.
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:33 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:I don't know. I'm fairly sick of the whole "men have to be muscled bastions of manliness who eat raw steak and grunt a lot" thing.

Indeed.

I mean I like my steak practically blackened.

Raw meat is gross.

I prefer my stuff well done.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:43 pm

Duckistan wrote:I don't trust craigslist or any of those online fuck sites. Many of the "women" on craigslist are actually men, and there are incredibly few real women on there. And the sites that you can supposedly meet sex crazed women are scams. I went onto one once. What they do is they have a bunch of what I call "bait accounts" where they send you a message saying they are interested in you. However, you can't respond without joining the site. You think you have a surefire sex partner once you sign up, but it was all a ruse to get you to become a member. Even worse, the people who aren't on there to bait you into membership on that site are people from some of the other porn sites who will send you links to paysites. It's all a big scam.


Sure, some of it are scams. But I figure I'd have better luck with that than doing nothing as I am currently. Once I have my own car I will be able to try it.
It is a calculated risk that can turn out good or bad. So long as I take some precautions I'm sure I will be fine.

The concept makes sense to me, if you just want some "no strings attached" sex or fun, you post your own advertisement in an adult personals section and you get a few people who respond to your ad and it is up to you to screen which one(s) you want to decide on for the event and if none are satisfactory, you could always cancel or respond to someone else's ad. It is really no different than posting a job offer online and conducting interviews to determine who you will hire. I figured that there are certain places swingers can go to meet with other swingers to do their hobby.

That is kind of the whole point of adult personals, the people making ads are looking for sex/relationship/whatever and so are the people who are responding to the ads. While the spammers and con artists are interfering and really just wasting everyone else's time, who want to use an adult personals section in good faith. It isn't possible to keep all the filth/riff raff out, but it is possible to shift through that to find someone who wants what you want.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:54 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Indeed.

I mean I like my steak practically blackened.


Me too. Medium is the absolute minimum I'll eat.


Yeah, tastes better and there's less risk of catching that escherichia coli infection thing.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:57 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:Me too. Medium is the absolute minimum I'll eat.

Yeah, tastes better and there's less risk of catching that escherichia coli infection thing.

I don't understand what's so great about rare anyways...
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:57 pm

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Samuraikoku wrote:Yeah, tastes better and there's less risk of catching that escherichia coli infection thing.

I don't understand what's so great about rare anyways...

Yeah, if I wanted chewy, I'd eat squid.
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:00 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:I don't understand what's so great about rare anyways...

Yeah, if I wanted chewy, I'd eat squid.

MMMM squid. I love squid!
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:03 pm

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Anachronous Rex wrote:Yeah, if I wanted chewy, I'd eat squid.

MMMM squid. I love squid!

And they love you.

That's why they're called "cuddlefish."

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Postby Esternial » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:04 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Me too. Medium is the absolute minimum I'll eat.


Yeah, tastes better and there's less risk of catching that escherichia coli infection thing.

That isn't even the worst thing you can get from that.

There's something much worse...

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Postby I Want to Smash Them All » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:08 pm

Esternial wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Yeah, tastes better and there's less risk of catching that escherichia coli infection thing.

That isn't even the worst thing you can get from that.

There's something much worse...

Psst . . . I've heard crazy rumors that you can get "stuff" that is icky from s-e-x too!

I think it is because of feminazis.
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:35 pm

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Duckistan wrote:When did I claim to have the right to have sex with a particular person? I'm just saying women are complicated.

How is it thinking that I have a right to sex from a particular woman to say that I wish it were as simple as asking? If I'm asking she still has the ability to say no, does she not? So how am I in the wrong.

You don't have to say it directly in order to imply that you believe such. You're complaining that you can't fuck women unless you seduce them and otherwise spend shit tons of money on them. You're whining about sexual harassment laws because now (according to you) you can't just fuck women directly.

Such wanton entitlement to sex because you want it would turn most women off.

Still fail to see the "entitlement". If I felt entitled to sex, wouldn't I just rape them? Yet, I've never done so. You make no sense.

And yes, it's annoying to have to try and seduce them and spend tons of money on them. Maybe I'm just annoyed because I lack money currently, and so can't go through the normal avenues.

And while we're talking about entitlement here, women have their own type of entitlement, though maybe not a sexual one.
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:41 pm

I Want to Smash Them All wrote:
Duckistan wrote:When did I claim to have the right to have sex with a particular person? I'm just saying women are complicated.

How is it thinking that I have a right to sex from a particular woman to say that I wish it were as simple as asking? If I'm asking she still has the ability to say no, does she not? So how am I in the wrong.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Pro-tip: Women generally like and want sex as much as men. That does not mean any individual woman wants to have sex with any individual man. Regardless, using terms like "feminazi," referring to individuals as a generic "them," believing in antiquated stereotypes about women, thinking you have to pretend to go through various motions to "subtly convince [a woman] to sleep with you," behaving in a manner that is even remotely comparable to sexual harassment, not understanding what sexual harassment is, etc., are all counter-productive to sexual relations with women. Perhaps one should start by try thinking of a woman as an individual person with individual interests and desires and not some object to be fucked if one can trick or "seduce" her.

Hey, asshole, I already do think of women as individuals. Those aren't antiquated stereotypes. They are what I see and know from experience. Women seem to always want all the romance before the sex, whereas I would prefer the reverse. We want the same things, we just disagree upon when they should happen, and that's my gripe.

I'm absolutely sick of having a bunch of little shits call me misogynist every time I bitch about my dealings with women. I've encountered a lot of downright bitches. Excuse the fuck out of me for being annoyed that things are more complicated than they need to be. You know, calling someone a misogynist and acting like they think of women as things doesn't make you smarter just because you're parroting it off of ivory tower feminists.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:44 pm

Duckistan wrote:
I Want to Smash Them All wrote:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Pro-tip: Women generally like and want sex as much as men. That does not mean any individual woman wants to have sex with any individual man. Regardless, using terms like "feminazi," referring to individuals as a generic "them," believing in antiquated stereotypes about women, thinking you have to pretend to go through various motions to "subtly convince [a woman] to sleep with you," behaving in a manner that is even remotely comparable to sexual harassment, not understanding what sexual harassment is, etc., are all counter-productive to sexual relations with women. Perhaps one should start by try thinking of a woman as an individual person with individual interests and desires and not some object to be fucked if one can trick or "seduce" her.

Hey, asshole, I already do think of women as individuals. Those aren't antiquated stereotypes. They are what I see and know from experience. Women seem to always want all the romance before the sex, whereas I would prefer the reverse. We want the same things, we just disagree upon when they should happen, and that's my gripe.

I'm absolutely sick of having a bunch of little shits call me misogynist every time I bitch about my dealings with women. I've encountered a lot of downright bitches. Excuse the fuck out of me for being annoyed that things are more complicated than they need to be. You know, calling someone a misogynist and acting like they think of women as things doesn't make you smarter just because you're parroting it off of ivory tower feminists.

I can practically hear the skirts dropping right now.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:45 pm

Duckistan wrote:
I Want to Smash Them All wrote:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Pro-tip: Women generally like and want sex as much as men. That does not mean any individual woman wants to have sex with any individual man. Regardless, using terms like "feminazi," referring to individuals as a generic "them," believing in antiquated stereotypes about women, thinking you have to pretend to go through various motions to "subtly convince [a woman] to sleep with you," behaving in a manner that is even remotely comparable to sexual harassment, not understanding what sexual harassment is, etc., are all counter-productive to sexual relations with women. Perhaps one should start by try thinking of a woman as an individual person with individual interests and desires and not some object to be fucked if one can trick or "seduce" her.

Hey, asshole, I already do think of women as individuals. Those aren't antiquated stereotypes. They are what I see and know from experience. Women seem to always want all the romance before the sex, whereas I would prefer the reverse. We want the same things, we just disagree upon when they should happen, and that's my gripe.

I'm absolutely sick of having a bunch of little shits call me misogynist every time I bitch about my dealings with women. I've encountered a lot of downright bitches. Excuse the fuck out of me for being annoyed that things are more complicated than they need to be. You know, calling someone a misogynist and acting like they think of women as things doesn't make you smarter just because you're parroting it off of ivory tower feminists.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:46 pm

Duckistan wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:You don't have to say it directly in order to imply that you believe such. You're complaining that you can't fuck women unless you seduce them and otherwise spend shit tons of money on them. You're whining about sexual harassment laws because now (according to you) you can't just fuck women directly.

Such wanton entitlement to sex because you want it would turn most women off.

Still fail to see the "entitlement". If I felt entitled to sex, wouldn't I just rape them? Yet, I've never done so. You make no sense.

And yes, it's annoying to have to try and seduce them and spend tons of money on them. Maybe I'm just annoyed because I lack money currently, and so can't go through the normal avenues.

And while we're talking about entitlement here, women have their own type of entitlement, though maybe not a sexual one.

Yeah, thinking that you're owed sex after spending money and attempting to seduce them? That's entitlement.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:46 pm

Duckistan wrote:
I Want to Smash Them All wrote:Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Pro-tip: Women generally like and want sex as much as men. That does not mean any individual woman wants to have sex with any individual man. Regardless, using terms like "feminazi," referring to individuals as a generic "them," believing in antiquated stereotypes about women, thinking you have to pretend to go through various motions to "subtly convince [a woman] to sleep with you," behaving in a manner that is even remotely comparable to sexual harassment, not understanding what sexual harassment is, etc., are all counter-productive to sexual relations with women. Perhaps one should start by try thinking of a woman as an individual person with individual interests and desires and not some object to be fucked if one can trick or "seduce" her.

Hey, asshole, I already do think of women as individuals. Those aren't antiquated stereotypes. They are what I see and know from experience. Women seem to always want all the romance before the sex, whereas I would prefer the reverse. We want the same things, we just disagree upon when they should happen, and that's my gripe.

I'm absolutely sick of having a bunch of little shits call me misogynist every time I bitch about my dealings with women. I've encountered a lot of downright bitches. Excuse the fuck out of me for being annoyed that things are more complicated than they need to be. You know, calling someone a misogynist and acting like they think of women as things doesn't make you smarter just because you're parroting it off of ivory tower feminists.


>Claims to think of women as individuals
>Makes colossal, sweeping generalisations about both genders
>U WOT M8
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Postby Duckistan » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:47 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
I Want to Smash Them All wrote:Seriously?

You complain about not "meet[ing] sex crazed women" through porn sites, but the difficulties in your sex life are due to feminists and could not possibly be with you or your approach?


Indeed. I'm a self-identified feminist and I, crazily enough, don't find that this horrifies girls.


Never said they were due to feminists. Try reading what I'm writing before you respond. I've straight up asked a girl if she wanted to have sex, and not just some stranger. We had been dating for a while, and her reaction was downright offense.

I don't just base my statement on my own personal experience though. I've heard the same thing from a lot of other guys.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:49 pm

Duckistan wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Indeed. I'm a self-identified feminist and I, crazily enough, don't find that this horrifies girls.


Never said they were due to feminists. Try reading what I'm writing before you respond. I've straight up asked a girl if she wanted to have sex, and not just some stranger. We had been dating for a while, and her reaction was downright offense.


One girl didn't want to have sex with you, therefore the entire gender is stuck up and somehow out to get all men.

I don't just base my statement on my own personal experience though. I've heard the same thing from a lot of other guys.


Obviously all women do it then. "A lot of other guys" said it. It must be true.
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