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Postby Greenyville » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:10 pm

Yootopia wrote:
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The Norse Hordes wrote:HA! They picked an Islamophobe as their president?

Europe, you no longer have any right to critisize anyone for racism or being "un-PC".

Good call, this also means that at no point did you have any right to criticise Bush for being a shite president, so if you'd just rewrite a couple of years' posts?

Actually, it doesnt mean that.

Nice try though.

I don't see why we can't disagree with our leadership we indirectly elected, as opposed to an American voting in a proper presidential election...

bush was about as intelligent as my turtle. which i dont own. but he was still a better president than the undeniably intelligent obama who is a dirty naive socialist
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Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, I'm rather proud that a Belgian, a little boring Belgian won from 'magnificent' Tony. :)

Don't be afraid, fellow Europeans, Herman is much much much smarter as Tony Blair.
He's a consensus type and will be a president for all Europeans, that's including the British.

As you already pointed out in a previous topic, Tony Blair was not exactly a welcome candidate.


Indeed. One word: Iraq. Do I have to say more?

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Postby Greenyville » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:18 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
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Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, I'm rather proud that a Belgian, a little boring Belgian won from 'magnificent' Tony. :)

Don't be afraid, fellow Europeans, Herman is much much much smarter as Tony Blair.
He's a consensus type and will be a president for all Europeans, that's including the British.

As you already pointed out in a previous topic, Tony Blair was not exactly a welcome candidate.


Indeed. One word: Iraq. Do I have to say more?


no but thas a very small part of what makes him such an outrageous prick
however if we must be ruled from abroad, id rather have a ridiculously stupid brit than a smart belgian.
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Postby Kobrania » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:35 pm

Greenyville wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Yootopia wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, I'm rather proud that a Belgian, a little boring Belgian won from 'magnificent' Tony. :)

Don't be afraid, fellow Europeans, Herman is much much much smarter as Tony Blair.
He's a consensus type and will be a president for all Europeans, that's including the British.

As you already pointed out in a previous topic, Tony Blair was not exactly a welcome candidate.


Indeed. One word: Iraq. Do I have to say more?


no but thas a very small part of what makes him such an outrageous prick
however if we must be ruled from abroad, id rather have a ridiculously stupid brit than a smart belgian.

It is that kind of idiotic nationalism that inhibits a reality where peace is paramount.
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:36 pm

Greenyville wrote:
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Yootopia wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Well, I'm rather proud that a Belgian, a little boring Belgian won from 'magnificent' Tony. :)

Don't be afraid, fellow Europeans, Herman is much much much smarter as Tony Blair.
He's a consensus type and will be a president for all Europeans, that's including the British.

As you already pointed out in a previous topic, Tony Blair was not exactly a welcome candidate.


Indeed. One word: Iraq. Do I have to say more?


no but thas a very small part of what makes him such an outrageous prick
however if we must be ruled from abroad, id rather have a ridiculously stupid brit than a smart belgian.


Why would you prefer an incompetent one above a competent person?

After all, these guys are designing partly your and my future.

While I’m proud that they elected Herman - I know he can handle the job - I don’t give a fuck if top politicians are purple, black, gay, female, male, English, German or Belgian. As long as they are competent enough, I am satisfied.

Most people in Europe were against the invasion in Iraq. We didn’t forget that Blair was one of the first to kiss the ass of Bush & his neocon mob. That’s the main reason why a Blair will never, never and never be the president of EU.

He’s partly guilty for killing 100 million Iraqis and now we should reward him with another top job?

You can say what you want about the EU, but this night they did a pretty good job NOT giving the EU sceptre to Blair.

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Postby Greenyville » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:19 pm

damn, stupidly idiotic to want to be ruled by someone from your own country

yes, for them, europe made a good move. for us? if it was any more than a figurehead role i dont think many people over here would stand for being dictated to by a belgian they didnt elect.
a federalist one, at that.
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:42 pm

Greenyville wrote:damn, stupidly idiotic to want to be ruled by someone from your own country

yes, for them, europe made a good move. for us? if it was any more than a figurehead role i dont think many people over here would stand for being dictated to by a belgian they didnt elect.
a federalist one, at that.


Herman his first ruling will be the separation of UK into Northern Ireland, Wales, England, Scotland and the channel islands.

Next he will demand that you all learn French and drop that too American language.

You also have to pay in Euros next month and learn to drive right, like all decent people on the planet do. :)

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:57 pm

The Daily Express are so fucking liars...

Take their article of today about Van Rompuy...

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/141 ... ly-Express

...One Brussels source said the Belgian prime minister was furious over the Daily Express’s front page picture yesterday of a political poster portraying him as a clown.

“He was horrified and really angry when he looked at the newspaper,” said the source.

Mr Van Rompuy reportedly said: “How can they depict me in this way? This is a disgrace.”

Our front page revealed how Mr Van Rompuy had been ridiculed by his own sister...


He said already in a political debate on TV, months ago, that it wasn't his style, but that he found the poster funny.

And do they really expect that a EU president has nothing else to do as reading worthless trashy tabloids? Come on, get real. :)

I think that the Daily Express are bad losers.
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Postby F1-Insanity » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:18 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:[img]
Herman Van Rompuy is your first EU President.



No he isn't.

President of the European Council he is (you know, European Council, the body set up so government ministers could and can bypass their national parliaments).

You still have clown Barroso aka president of the European Politburo (aka Commission), another appointed chap.

Sounds democratic, this EU stuff, hey why bother asking the voters when the politicians can just appoint eachother and transfer ever more powers away from the national parliaments (not counting that phony pseudo-parliament they have in Brussels).

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The Norse Hordes wrote:HA! They picked an Islamophobe as their president?


Europe, you no longer have any right to critisize anyone for racism or being "un-PC".


phobia is irrational fear
any so called "islamophobe" has a rational dislike


That's right, 'fear' of islam is based on islam's long and bloody history and the religious texts demanding wholesale slaughter and/or subjugation of all things not-islam.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:21 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
He’s partly guilty for killing 100 million Iraqis and now we should reward him with another top job?


100 million Iraqis? :o That's a lot. I'd like a source for that, especially since Iraq didn't have so many people to begin with.
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Postby Yoreland » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:24 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:Image

He's looking right at me... im scared... :(
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:25 pm

Farnhamia wrote:I worked with some guys who had that exact same tie in the 1970s. Other than that, he looks pleasant, like someone's uncle.


Why do people put so much stock into what someone looks like when it comes to being the head of the EU or a government?

What should really matter on how well he is going to do the job.

The good looking person could be a bumbling idiot who won't do anything good and not do a good job. Take the PM of Australia for an example (except for the bumbling idiot bit)
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:42 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
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He’s partly guilty for killing 100 million Iraqis and now we should reward him with another top job?


100 million Iraqis? :o That's a lot. I'd like a source for that, especially since Iraq didn't have so many people to begin with.


Hehe, you're right. A little exaggeration doesn't hurt. Now, I don't know why I wrote 'million' :)

Till today it's 102,780 according Iraq Body Count:

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:50 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I worked with some guys who had that exact same tie in the 1970s. Other than that, he looks pleasant, like someone's uncle.


Why do people put so much stock into what someone looks like when it comes to being the head of the EU or a government?

What should really matter on how well he is going to do the job.

The good looking person could be a bumbling idiot who won't do anything good and not do a good job. Take the PM of Australia for an example (except for the bumbling idiot bit)


We had him as minister for budget and he did an awesome job. As a prime minister he restored the peace in the always political turbulent waters of Belgium.

He's very smart and competent, he’s always seeking for the consensus.

On the backside, he doesn't have a lot of charisma. However, some American president is having an overdose charisma and according a significant share of the Americans on board, he's the most lousy president ever.

Anyway, charisma is nice, competency is muuuuuuch better.

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Postby Lacadaemon » Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:53 pm

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Postby Western Mercenary Unio » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:05 am

And, I bet the reaction most Finns had to this news was ''That's great, I'll go back to drink some more''.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:06 am

I'm disappointed that the Socialist Party chose Catherine Ashton for the Foreign Policy. I mean, she has nothing in her career similar to being a diplomat or a FM. There were better choices for that office. I think she was chosen just to help Mr.Brown with the next UK elections.

Btw, I think it was a bad idea anyway to choose someone from Mr.Tony "Bitch of Bush" Blair's cabinet for any EU office.
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Risottia wrote:I'm disappointed that the Socialist Party chose Catherine Ashton for the Foreign Policy. I mean, she has nothing in her career similar to being a diplomat or a FM. There were better choices for that office. I think she was chosen just to help Mr.Brown with the next UK elections.

Btw, I think it was a bad idea anyway to choose someone from Mr.Tony "Bitch of Bush" Blair's cabinet for any EU office.


It would have been a disaster for Europe if Blair was elected.

But I agree. But you know it's horse trading. Style: "We accept Van Rompuy, if you select Ashton".

I wouldn't be surprised that Brown never had the real intention to demand the presidency for Blair. He knows too that Blair isn't particular popular, since Iraq, in Europe. Even the European Socialists don't like Blair, go figure! :)

By pushing Blair till the end, he's coming home with a nice second prize, which was probably his goal.

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Postby EmeriKa » Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:17 am

Western Mercenary Unio wrote:And, I bet the reaction most Finns had to this news was ''That's great, I'll go back to drink some more''.


My reaction was "OH NO WHERE'S LIPPONEN :(" :p

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Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Risottia wrote:I'm disappointed that the Socialist Party chose Catherine Ashton for the Foreign Policy. I mean, she has nothing in her career similar to being a diplomat or a FM. There were better choices for that office. I think she was chosen just to help Mr.Brown with the next UK elections.

Btw, I think it was a bad idea anyway to choose someone from Mr.Tony "Bitch of Bush" Blair's cabinet for any EU office.


It would have been a disaster for Europe if Blair was elected.

But I agree. But you know it's horse trading. Style: "We accept Van Rompuy, if you select Ashton".

I wouldn't be surprised that Brown never had the real intention to demand the presidency for Blair. He knows too that Blair isn't particular popular, since Iraq, in Europe. Even the European Socialists don't like Blair, go figure! :)

By pushing Blair till the end, he's coming home with a nice second prize, which was probably his goal.


I know. And I also think it's not a very good start for the new EU establishment.
Btw, here in Italy we use the "cow market" analogy - which is a bit less noble... Expecially here in Milan, we say "chi vosa pu seè, la vaca l'è soa!" (who yells more gets the cow). :(
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Risottia wrote:
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Risottia wrote:I'm disappointed that the Socialist Party chose Catherine Ashton for the Foreign Policy. I mean, she has nothing in her career similar to being a diplomat or a FM. There were better choices for that office. I think she was chosen just to help Mr.Brown with the next UK elections.

Btw, I think it was a bad idea anyway to choose someone from Mr.Tony "Bitch of Bush" Blair's cabinet for any EU office.


It would have been a disaster for Europe if Blair was elected.

But I agree. But you know it's horse trading. Style: "We accept Van Rompuy, if you select Ashton".

I wouldn't be surprised that Brown never had the real intention to demand the presidency for Blair. He knows too that Blair isn't particular popular, since Iraq, in Europe. Even the European Socialists don't like Blair, go figure! :)

By pushing Blair till the end, he's coming home with a nice second prize, which was probably his goal.


I know. And I also think it's not a very good start for the new EU establishment.
Btw, here in Italy we use the "cow market" analogy - which is a bit less noble... Expecially here in Milan, we say "chi vosa pu seè, la vaca l'è soa!" (who yells more gets the cow). :(


I'm not that pessimistic, after all, we are finally started now. I have the feeling that we are on the right track. It will take more decades before Europe is where it should be. USA wasn't build in a few days either.

Hehe, in Belgium they use 'cow trading' too. It seems that also on this point, the English have to do different. :)

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Postby Lacadaemon » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:57 am

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I'm not that pessimistic, after all, we are finally started now. I have the feeling that we are on the right track. It will take more decades before Europe is where it should be. USA wasn't build in a few days either.


You will have to have a big civil war to get where the US is. It wasn't until after that the States actually realized they were the Federal Government's bitch.
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Postby Cosmopoles » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:13 am

F1-Insanity wrote:Sounds democratic, this EU stuff, hey why bother asking the voters when the politicians can just appoint eachother and transfer ever more powers away from the national parliaments (not counting that phony pseudo-parliament they have in Brussels).


Name one power your national parliament had that has been transferred to the EU by the creation of the post of President of the European Council.

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Lacadaemon wrote:
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I'm not that pessimistic, after all, we are finally started now. I have the feeling that we are on the right track. It will take more decades before Europe is where it should be. USA wasn't build in a few days either.


You will have to have a big civil war to get where the US is. It wasn't until after that the States actually realized they were the Federal Government's bitch.


I don't think that will happen or is needed. The economical interests are too important these days.

Besides, one of the reasons why the EU is here, is to prevent wars. And it seems it is working. Before the EU existed, France, Germany or England were almost continuously at war with each other...

And people, don't start moaning about Yugoslavia. They were not part of the EU when they had their last civil war.

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Postby Yootopia » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:15 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
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I'm not that pessimistic, after all, we are finally started now. I have the feeling that we are on the right track. It will take more decades before Europe is where it should be. USA wasn't build in a few days either.


You will have to have a big civil war to get where the US is. It wasn't until after that the States actually realized they were the Federal Government's bitch.


I don't think that will happen or is needed. The economical interests are too important these days.

The state of the economy was one of the main things that led to the US civil war though.
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