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Postby Aghny » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:41 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Children, they will have confused values and not know how to behave properly within their gender roles.

Their confusion will lead to higher rates of sexual misconduct and perversion. Also, higher divorce rates as these children get older.

Divorce rates are higher in the USA now versus the 1950s when there were less gay rights. Perhaps gay rights is one factor in this among many??


And all this has been documented and scientifically proven guys. :palm: (I love this emote)

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:41 am

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Northern Dominus wrote:Funny, one would think counter-productive could be viewed as taking the time out to deliberately point out the differences between people and make a big deal of it, rather than just deal with it and go back to work...

I doubt this guys going to do much work in his life.
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Even if he was somehow un or underemployed, it wouldn't matter, because again he isn't actively looking to divide people and set them against each other for pithy differences, unlike your attempts to do so.
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Postby Azrael » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:42 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Children, they will have confused values and not know how to behave properly within their gender roles.

Their confusion will lead to higher rates of sexual misconduct and perversion. Also, higher divorce rates as these children get older.

Divorce rates are higher in the USA now versus the 1950s when there were less gay rights. Perhaps gay rights is one factor in this among many??

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:42 am

Aghny wrote:And all this has been documented and scientifically proven guys. :palm: (I love this emote)


Because SCIENCE! Amirite? :lol2:
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Postby Benuty » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:42 am

Aghny wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Children, they will have confused values and not know how to behave properly within their gender roles.

Their confusion will lead to higher rates of sexual misconduct and perversion. Also, higher divorce rates as these children get older.

Divorce rates are higher in the USA now versus the 1950s when there were less gay rights. Perhaps gay rights is one factor in this among many??


And all this has been documented and scientifically proven guys. :palm: (I love this emote)


So everyone back then claimed " Rock n Roll will destroy our society, Teenage violence is at an all time high" in the 1950s.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:42 am

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Condunum wrote:I regularly email my senators on what I want them to vote on, I pay taxes, I'm enrolled for school starting in fall, I make money to support myself and I donate money and time to charity.

If you're going to sit there and tell me I'm counterproductive because of how I act in my free time, then you're an idiot.

So you think that an email will influence a state senator? wow if we had more people like you we would all have jet packs by now.And what charity's do you donate to? I'm sure there one that support your views and life style.

Believe it or not, emailing your senator and asking all your friends to does help. That's how yu tell them what you want. If more people did that, they'd actually know what the people in their districts wanted.

I support food charities. You know, the ones that keep people fed while they try to get back on their feet? But I doubt yu know anything about that. I support LGBT groups too, yes.
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:43 am

Azrael wrote:
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Obviously,giving a fuck about facts or historyUsing straw logic is being a fanatic and


Oh please do keep on entertaining me :lol: Aaaaanddd? What happened? Did your brain explode mid-way through the sentence?
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:43 am

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Condunum wrote:So now we're judging me on limited information? Nice.

Well you seem to have no issue with judging me based upon my post.


You post bigoted, insulting things, so he judges that you are a person who makes bigoted, insulting remarks.

He posts that he likes skating, you judge that he is a pot-smoking low-life who will never contribute to society.

I'm not seeing the correlation here.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:43 am

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Condunum wrote:So now we're judging me on limited information? Nice.

Well you seem to have no issue with judging me based upon my post.

I tell you you're ignorant when I see ignorance from you. I don't judge your life or what you do, so don't do it to me. Damn, you are rude.
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Postby The united imperial sector » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:43 am

Azrael wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Children, they will have confused values and not know how to behave properly within their gender roles.

Their confusion will lead to higher rates of sexual misconduct and perversion. Also, higher divorce rates as these children get older.

Divorce rates are higher in the USA now versus the 1950s when there were less gay rights. Perhaps gay rights is one factor in this among many??

LERN2SCIENCE

Gender roles are limiting social constructs.

So what it just shows kids how to act gender roles worked just fine in ancient and medieval times there are still villages were gender roles go on worldwide and they don't seem to complain about it.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:44 am

Azrael wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Children, they will have confused values and not know how to behave properly within their gender roles.

Their confusion will lead to higher rates of sexual misconduct and perversion. Also, higher divorce rates as these children get older.

Divorce rates are higher in the USA now versus the 1950s when there were less gay rights. Perhaps gay rights is one factor in this among many??

LERN2SCIENCE

Gender roles are limiting social constructs.
And if I'm not mistaken a fairly recent construct as well... well in archeological time anyway.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:44 am

Condunum wrote:Believe it or not, emailing your senator and asking all your friends to does help. That's how yu tell them what you want. If more people did that, they'd actually know what the people in their districts wanted.

I support food charities. You know, the ones that keep people fed while they try to get back on their feet? But I doubt yu know anything about that. I support LGBT groups too, yes.


I support all of the above and immigration reform here in the US :p so yea
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:44 am

Ovisterra wrote:
The united imperial sector wrote:Well you seem to have no issue with judging me based upon my post.


You post bigoted, insulting things, so he judges that you are a person who makes bigoted, insulting remarks.

He posts that he likes skating, you judge that he is a pot-smoking low-life who will never contribute to society.

I'm not seeing the correlation here.


I can't believe people are still using "pot-smoking" in a pejorative way :palm:

*palm breaks*
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:44 am

Ovisterra wrote:The idea that you can "tell" just by looking at someone is bullshit.

Well...
If you see someone kissing someone else of same sex, you can tell that they are either bi or gay.
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Postby Azrael » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:44 am

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Benuty wrote:
Oh mercy the reproduction argument?


Did you completely ignore my post? There is no argument. I'm actually very happy with how it is. We're too many on this damn Earth. 1 billion to 7 billion in 200 years,fucking tribbles :lol:

Yeah, it's funny when people say "oh but then our population will be hurt ughhhhh"

It's not gonna be any more hurt than it is now, since gays will still be gay. Besides, if our population does suffer in numbers a bit, that's got lots more benefits than detriments.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:45 am

Ovisterra wrote:
The united imperial sector wrote:Well you seem to have no issue with judging me based upon my post.


You post bigoted, insulting things, so he judges that you are a person who makes bigoted, insulting remarks.

He posts that he likes skating, you judge that he is a pot-smoking low-life who will never contribute to society.

I'm not seeing the correlation here.

If I said I like dubstep and going to concerts, would that make me a horrible person too?
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:45 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:The idea that you can "tell" just by looking at someone is bullshit.

Well...
If you see someone kissing someone else of same sex, you can tell that they are either bi or gay.


:P And they call me pedantic.
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Postby The united imperial sector » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:45 am

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The united imperial sector wrote:Well you seem to have no issue with judging me based upon my post.

I tell you you're ignorant when I see ignorance from you. I don't judge your life or what you do, so don't do it to me. Damn, you are rude.

Oh in that case I apologize I may not care about being a hate mongering fascist but I can not stand being rude.

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Postby Aghny » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:45 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Aghny wrote:And all this has been documented and scientifically proven guys. :palm: (I love this emote)


Because SCIENCE! Amirite? :lol2:


Yep.

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Postby Azrael » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:46 am

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Oh please do keep on entertaining me :lol: Aaaaanddd? What happened? Did your brain explode mid-way through the sentence?

The next part of the post was irrelevant generalization about political viewpoints. Leaving it would've been a distraction from my main point.

Read up, yo!
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Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:46 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Condunum wrote:Believe it or not, emailing your senator and asking all your friends to does help. That's how yu tell them what you want. If more people did that, they'd actually know what the people in their districts wanted.

I support food charities. You know, the ones that keep people fed while they try to get back on their feet? But I doubt yu know anything about that. I support LGBT groups too, yes.


I support all of the above and immigration reform here in the US :p so yea

I dunno what groups I could donate to to support immigration reform. Truth be told, I couldn't anyway. I'm broke right now and I'm strapped for cash when I have an income because I already donate a lot.
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Who is harmed by same-sex marriage?

Postby Condunum » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:47 am

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Condunum wrote:I tell you you're ignorant when I see ignorance from you. I don't judge your life or what you do, so don't do it to me. Damn, you are rude.

Oh in that case I apologize I may not care about being a hate mongering fascist but I can not stand being rude.

Apology accepted. Now can we get off this topic? Its not relevant to the thread.
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Postby Azrael » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:47 am

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Azrael wrote:LERN2SCIENCE

Gender roles are limiting social constructs.

So what it just shows kids how to act gender roles worked just fine in ancient and medieval times there are still villages were gender roles go on worldwide and they don't seem to complain about it.

Do you even pay attention to world events? The fact that women can be executed in some parts of the world for not obeying their husband? All the social struggles because of stuff like this?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:48 am

Condunum wrote:I dunno what groups I could donate to to support immigration reform. Truth be told, I couldn't anyway. I'm broke right now and I'm strapped for cash when I have an income because I already donate a lot.


Oh I don't donate anything other than my time at this point :p I'm also broke lol
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Postby Sheogorathian Isles » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:48 am

The united imperial sector wrote:
Condunum wrote:I tell you you're ignorant when I see ignorance from you. I don't judge your life or what you do, so don't do it to me. Damn, you are rude.

Oh in that case I apologize I may not care about being a hate mongering fascist but I can not stand being rude.


Your OK with mongering fascist, but can't stand being rude? I don't get this logic.

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