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Divair
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:33 pm

Cosara wrote:
Divair wrote:Still waiting.

You're just wasting your time.

Answer the fucking question or don't bring up such stupid shit.

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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Cosara wrote:
Divair wrote:Still waiting.

You're just wasting your time.

Because obviously you have no good response?

You walked right into that one.

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Postby The balkens » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Quovis Celestis wrote:
Cosara wrote:Marriage is a pillar of society and for hundreds of years, it has been defined as between a man and a woman and allowing Gays and Lesbians to marry is redefining this important part of society.


Slavery was also a pillar of society for hundreds of years, we redefined that important part of society.


marriage was also around before the bible came about.

care to explain?

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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Divair wrote:Still waiting.

No, you see, he retreated because of all the "hate."


The only one engaging in any sort of hate is him.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Cosara wrote:
Divair wrote:Still waiting.

You're just wasting your time.

Go on. Tell us.
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Postby Livata » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

No one does. Well.

Uhhh....

Yeah, no one does.
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Postby Herador » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No, you see, he retreated because of all the "hate."


The only one engaging in any sort of hate is him.

That's the joke.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:No, you see, he retreated because of all the "hate."


The only one engaging in any sort of hate is him.

Naw, he's just doing an ostrich impression.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:
BULLSHIT

Show me some real facts. Marriage has existed for thousands of years, and have included polygamy and also previously homosexual marriages. Learn to history.

What he is saying is not in fact bullshit, but it is somewhat ethno(religious)-centric and that doesn't mean that such traditions should stagnate while the rest of the world progresses.


Though it is bullshit. At least partly. Considering that a million (exaggeration) different definitions of marriage has existed, i don't see why the Christian definition should have any significant impact on the decision on who should be able to marry.
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Postby Quovis Celestis » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
The only one engaging in any sort of hate is him.

Naw, he's just doing an ostrich impression.


A rather splendid one at that.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Samdor wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Your church doesn't own the word marriage sweetie. Unless you're saying that atheists aren't really married?

It's not "my church" i believe in god but i don't attend a church. I would say my argument is centrist,

Yeah, no. That's not centrist at all.

Samdor wrote:Christians are relevant in this argument because they make up a very large proportion of the USA

:rofl: Argumentum ad populum? Try harder.

Samdor wrote:(the country i have been referring to) and the legalization of gay marriage goes against their religious convictions,

So why are some churches willing to preform SSMs, hm? Why are some churches okay with it? Hmm??

Samdor wrote:homosexuals are arguably more closely involved because this impacts whether they can be married.

Well DUH?

Samdor wrote:My personal belief as previously stated is that this should remain a state decision due to different concentrations of conservative Christians in different areas of the USA. Also I have no problem with atheists. I never said I think that atheists aren't married.

You implied that churches are the ones involved in marriages. If that were the case, atheists aren't really married.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Quovis Celestis wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Naw, he's just doing an ostrich impression.


A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Quovis Celestis wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Naw, he's just doing an ostrich impression.


A rather splendid one at that.

Image

Looks something like that.

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Postby Quovis Celestis » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Cosara wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!


I think that insult just flew right over your head.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Cosara wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!

That wasn't a compliment.
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:37 pm

Cosara wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and in this case you're just digging your own grave for credibility.

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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Cosara wrote:You're just wasting your time.

Answer the fucking question or don't bring up such stupid shit.

Still waiting.

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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Cosara wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!


That was not a compliment, of that i can be pretty FUCKING sure. Now, can you answer any question properly or are you just going to stick your head up your ass?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Cosara wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Why, thank you!

It's true. As a secondarily flightless creature myself, I must say you pull it off marvelously.

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Postby Ovisterra » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Quovis Celestis wrote:
A rather splendid one at that.

Image

Looks something like that.


Ostriches don't actually do that. Just saying. :P
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Postby Thafoo » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:38 pm

Divair wrote:
Divair wrote:Answer the fucking question or don't bring up such stupid shit.

Still waiting.

As am I :palm:

Honestly, it's hilarious how some people on here can be.

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Postby Cosara » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Cosara wrote:Why, thank you!

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and in this case you're just digging your own grave for credibility.

Wait a second? I have credibility? :shock:
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Quovis Celestis wrote:
Cosara wrote:Why, thank you!


I think that insult just flew right over your head.

Well it would have to, wouldn't it?
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Ovisterra wrote:
Divair wrote:Image

Looks something like that.


Ostriches don't actually do that. Just saying. :P

Says you.

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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:39 pm

Cosara wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit and in this case you're just digging your own grave for credibility.

Wait a second? I have credibility? :shock:

No, you lost so much of it you've got negative credibility.

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