All Abortion Illegal in North Dakota

[Cosara]

These men are sensible people who know that life is prescious and should be protected.

These men will never have to worry about carrying a baby they don't want to term.

So, just because you don't want the pregnancy gives you the authority to take a child's life before it even leaves the womb. May god have mercy on your soul.

[Kengburg]

So True

[Zweite Alaje]

North Dakota has just become the most righteous state in the Union, they deserve a salute.

I think some German folks had one that might apply aptly.

Wut?

[Fintanland]

So, just because you don't want the pregnancy gives you the authority to take a child's life before it even leaves the womb. May god have mercy on your soul.

Problem: There is no God. What now?

[Ujh Uhj]

Wait. Men, legislating on women's bodies? Oh, the hypocrisy and misogyny. It hurts!

These men are sensible people who know that life is prescious and should be protected.

I think sapient life is precious, too. Oh, you're talking about vegetables fetuses.

[Ceannairceach]

Except that slavery and genocide are nothing like abortion. At all. But yeah, slavery wasn't a crime until it was illegalized, and neither was, in technicality, genocide until the United Nations. But that's neither here nor there.

It isn't even a crime in North Dakota yet. And it won't be. It will just in effect be considered a crime. And we're talking about America here, not Ireland or any other country.

Yes, its the same thing. I here you pro-choice people ranting on about women's rights, but what about the child? Look, tell you what. I am a "got a little drunk" child. My mother wanted to have an abortion and I will never forgive her for that. In fact, I am ashamed to call her "mother". Why? Because she wanted to kill me.

Oh and I am sure mine isn't the only case like this on NS.

Children aren't involved in abortions, so the rights of children are irrelevant.

I'd like to note that, if you were aborted, you would not ever have cared. Because you couldn't. You wouldn't have ever had feelings, or opinions, or anything, because you were not a person yet. And not forgiving your own mother for trying to deal with an emotional time in her life by considering all the possible avenues she might take? What a horrible, ungrateful person you are. You should feel bad.

[Atnae]

These men will never have to worry about carrying a baby they don't want to term.

So, just because you don't want the pregnancy gives you the authority to take a child's life before it even leaves the womb. May god have mercy on your soul.

the keys required to ask What about rape? are on the verge of giving out.

[Ujh Uhj]

I think some German folks had one that might apply aptly.

Wut?

..........he was implying that the Nazi salute is appropriate given the authoritarian-ness of the situation

[Ceannairceach]

I think some German folks had one that might apply aptly.

Wut?

A salute, that very well represents oppression.

[Ashmoria]

Except that slavery and genocide are nothing like abortion. At all. But yeah, slavery wasn't a crime until it was illegalized, and neither was, in technicality, genocide until the United Nations. But that's neither here nor there.

It isn't even a crime in North Dakota yet. And it won't be. It will just in effect be considered a crime. And we're talking about America here, not Ireland or any other country.

Yes, its the same thing. I hear you pro-choice people ranting on about women's rights, but what about the child? Look, tell you what. I am a "got a little drunk" child. My mother wanted to have an abortion and I will never forgive her for that. In fact, I am ashamed to call her "mother". Why? Because she wanted to kill me.

Oh and I am sure mine isn't the only case like this on NS.

how did you find out that your mother wanted an abortion?

[Benuty]

Wut?

..........he was implying that the Nazi salute is appropriate given the authoritarian-ness of the situation

I though it was talking about the Nazi eugenics program :/ meh.

[Cosara]

So, just because you don't want the pregnancy gives you the authority to take a child's life before it even leaves the womb. May god have mercy on your soul.

the keys required to ask What about rape? are on the verge of giving out.

I view aborting a rape child as wrong, because a rape child is no less prescious than a child that happened through consensually.

[Ceannairceach]

Yes, its the same thing. I hear you pro-choice people ranting on about women's rights, but what about the child? Look, tell you what. I am a "got a little drunk" child. My mother wanted to have an abortion and I will never forgive her for that. In fact, I am ashamed to call her "mother". Why? Because she wanted to kill me.

Oh and I am sure mine isn't the only case like this on NS.

how did you find out that your mother wanted an abortion?

He was probably being an ungrateful brat and she mentioned it in passing. I, personally, would have advised giving him up for adoption, no matter what age he was, if he was that unthankful for her decision to keep him.

[Ujh Uhj]

These men will never have to worry about carrying a baby they don't want to term.

So, just because you don't want the pregnancy gives you the authority to take a child's life before it even leaves the womb. May god have mercy on your soul.

God? God?! Excuse me, but the first amendment forbids you from legislating based on religion.

[Farnhamia]

Except that slavery and genocide are nothing like abortion. At all. But yeah, slavery wasn't a crime until it was illegalized, and neither was, in technicality, genocide until the United Nations. But that's neither here nor there.

It isn't even a crime in North Dakota yet. And it won't be. It will just in effect be considered a crime. And we're talking about America here, not Ireland or any other country.

Yes, its the same thing. I hear you pro-choice people ranting on about women's rights, but what about the child? Look, tell you what. I am a "got a little drunk" child. My mother wanted to have an abortion and I will never forgive her for that. In fact, I am ashamed to call her "mother". Why? Because she wanted to kill me.

Oh and I am sure mine isn't the only case like this on NS.

There wasn't a you there to kill until you were born. That she raised you afterwards exonerates her, I think. She forgave you, have a little Christian charity and forgive her. The fact that you bring this up now says nothing about your argument, or lack thereof, of course.

[Munrova]

I think some German folks had one that might apply aptly.

Wut?

There's this jolly ol' Austrian painter who came up with one. You should check it out.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Children aren't involved in abortions, so the rights of children are irrelevant.

I'd like to note that, if you were aborted, you would not ever have cared. Because you couldn't. You wouldn't have ever had feelings, or opinions, or anything, because you were not a person yet. And not forgiving your own mother for trying to deal with an emotional time in her life by considering all the possible avenues she might take? What a horrible, ungrateful person you are. You should feel bad.

I agree with her/him on this issue.

You are quite ungrateful because she DECIDED TO HAVE YOU! You are here because she decided to put her crap aside, step up into the plate and take care of you as a mother. She decided to have you and that's what's more important than whether she wanted to have an abortion or not which she said "no, I'm having this kid"! How can you be so insensitive?!

[Sunny Skies]

I'm absolutely against abortion and I will speak against in all cases.

Though, as I'm neither a woman nor a conservative, I realize that what I belive to be right or wrong has no value on the decisions of another person. I think abortion should be decriminalized on the grounds that it will happen regardless of its legal status, and the best thing is to make it legal and that people should be allowed to do what they want with their bodies.

No matter what anybody says though, unless in case of rape, a phoetus that will be born severely handicapped or incapable of living long, or risk to the mother's life, I don't find any argument that can justify the fact that you're killing a human being and justifying the killing to be reasonable because not only it cannot defend itself, it can't even sustain itself biologically. A foetus is the single most fragile form of human life and killing it for the sole reason that the pregnancy is unwanted is something incredibly unethical and cruel; sentience does not change the right of life of someone, a person is a coma is still entitles to its rights regardless of the fact it's also incapable of sustaining itself, a person that has suffered a severe accident and lost most of its ability to function is also incapable of sustaining itself. All of those people require someone's care, and to me, an abortion is like if a nurse taking care of a senile old person decided to strangle him just because caring for him is an annoyance.

[Fintanland]

I view aborting a rape child as wrong, because a rape child is no less prescious than a child that happened through consensually.

So precious that the mother (who is, apparently, not "precious") has to be forced to go through months of pain that, to make it worse, constantly remind her of the rape?

[Zweite Alaje]

Wut?

..........he was implying that the Nazi salute is appropriate given the authoritarian-ness of the situation

There's nothing wrong with authoritarianism.

[Salandriagado]

No one is blaming the fetus. The woman is getting treatment.

The woman made the mistake, so she should have to suffer the consequences.

You realise that you literally just said that women are at fault for being raped, right?

[Cosara]

Yes, its the same thing. I here you pro-choice people ranting on about women's rights, but what about the child? Look, tell you what. I am a "got a little drunk" child. My mother wanted to have an abortion and I will never forgive her for that. In fact, I am ashamed to call her "mother". Why? Because she wanted to kill me.

Oh and I am sure mine isn't the only case like this on NS.

Children aren't involved in abortions, so the rights of children are irrelevant.

I'd like to note that, if you were aborted, you would not ever have cared. Because you couldn't. You wouldn't have ever had feelings, or opinions, or anything, because you were not a person yet. And not forgiving your own mother for trying to deal with an emotional time in her life by considering all the possible avenues she might take? What a horrible, ungrateful person you are. You should feel bad.

I agree with her/him on this issue.

You are quite ungrateful because she DECIDED TO HAVE YOU! You are here because she decided to put her crap aside, step up into the plate and take care of you as a mother. She decided to have you and that's what's more important than whether she wanted to have an abortion or not which she said "no, I'm having this kid"! How can you be so insensitive?![/quote]

EXACTLY! That's the message that I've preached throughout this thread! Finally, someone gets it!

[Ashmoria]

the keys required to ask What about rape? are on the verge of giving out.

I view aborting a rape child as wrong, because a rape child is no less prescious than a child that happened through consensually.

you need to try putting yourself in the place of the raped woman instead of identifying with the fetus.

just try it. try thinking it through.

[Awkwardturtleland]

(Image)
So True

Abortion. Men don't understand the impact that abortion makes on a woman's life. Just because the baby daddy doesn't want the outcome of a broken condom or sheer stupidity, then they shouldn't have done it. The fetus is still a baby. You can't deny that. I mean, sure, if you know the baby is going to be brain-dead or you're going to die from having it, that's good. Saving yourself from death and heartbreak. But if you're just stupid, suck it up. The baby will teach you to grow up.

[Ujh Uhj]

It's funny, I can't remember having all those constitutional rights when I was a fetus. Right, that's because I wasn't sapient.