All Abortion Illegal in North Dakota

[Ceannairceach]

Yes, like any cell on my body.

will your cells be sentient in less than a year?

It isn't even 100% sure that a fetus will be.

[Condunum]

Every single cell inside you, except for the germ cells, also has 46 chromosomes and a human genome. Why are you so obliged to some but not the other?

Its clear that a human comes from another human, you don't just pop out this tumorous thing that looks like a human. That thing was developed from the action of two people who consented to sex.
I am obligated to a fetus, because its human, and will develop into a sentient being within less than a year.

Wrong. Yu are not obligated to the fetus. There is no logical reason you should be.

[Fintanland]

will your cells be sentient in less than a year?

My semen might be. Is wanking also murder?

[Ujh Uhj]

Sex to consent does not equal pregnancy to consent. It's been said so many times now I even reversed the wording to make it more interesting.

yes it does.

What the fuck? Okay, so why don't we mandate that every sexual session result in pregnancy? I mean, that's the only reason humans have sex anyway. Right?

[Cosara]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

[Xsyne]

Yes, like any cell on my body.

will your cells be sentient in less than a year?

They already are.

[Ceannairceach]

No, it doesn't, Vazzy.

yes it does Ceanny

Except not. When you step out of your house, you do not immediately consent to getting struck by lightning. Similarly, consent to one thing, sex, is not consent to another, pregnancy.

[Lunalia]

Because your proof that it is a bad idea is based upon flawed studies which give the impression that adoption is a feasible solution and does not result in most children put up for adoption suffering horribly. I personally equate having a child unwillingly to torture, potentially for the child as well as the mother if the child is not adopted, and the odds of a child not being adopted are perishingly slim. Abortion before the fetus is capable of feeling anything is more ethical than torture. Torture is illegal, by the way.

Oh! I see my mistake, sorry XD!!!!!

I meant to say I am PRO-ABORTION! not anti-abortion.

Sorry, sometimes I type too fast

Yay! Although the correct wording is pro choice, as pro abortion implies that you are in favor of arbitrarily aborting fetuses whose mothers want to have them, which is one argument that pro life supporters use to attempt to smear people who are pro choice

[Farnhamia]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

You are not the boss of us, I guess. It's none of your business, really.

[Atnae]

will your cells be sentient in less than a year?

My semen might be. Is wanking also murder?

well...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

[Merriwhether]

No it isn't. How will the state deal with fetuses that are a threat to the mother?

Prayer.

Does ND even have any practicing abortionists in it? I could swear I'd read somewhere that North Dakotans wanting an abortion had to go out of state to get it ... could be wrong or outdated, of course.

And hell, why do you need two Dakotas anyway? You've got a spare, you can sell this one to the Chinese.

Put a nice big dent in the national debt and get rid of the American Nazis both at once.
I like the way you think.

[Ashmoria]

there is no freedom without reproductive freedom

That is like saying that there is no internet without YouTube

no its not

you cant be free if you are a slave to your reproductive system.

[Kengburg]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

Logic and Science. That is what's wrong with us.

[Carpathia and Moldova]

Abortion is not illegal, and thus doesn't constitute murder.

Slavery wasn't illegal, too, up until a few hundred years ago. Same went for putting Jews into concentration camps. Don't pull the "if not illegal, then not a crime" card on me. Just as slavery is wrong and genocide is wrong, so is abortion.

Oh and, I am sorry, but abortion is illegal now, at least in North Dakota, therefore its a crime under the law. Same goes for Ireland and several other countries.

[Cosara]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

Logic and Science. That is what's wrong with us.

Science says that fetuses are alive. Science and Logic are what you are fighting.

[Ceannairceach]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

Yeah, you've officially run out of arguments and started to insult the posters. Good job.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Damn it, I read it as pro abortion the first time, went back to change my post, only to find that I'd got it right in the first place

I swear to you I also thought I had made my message clear! xD I mean I do honestly believe abortion bans are wrong, because I come from a country where abortions are banned. It is a BAD idea, absolutely bad, and if people think it is cool to force women to be pregnant they should go to El Salvador or Honduras or even Colombia where abortions are illegal, they'll find out soon enough why the US doesn't need these draconian policies on women.

[Vazdania]

will your cells be sentient in less than a year?

It isn't even 100% sure that a fetus will be.

It is the product of sexual reproduction. its rights should be protected. I believe [which holds little weight] the right to life overrides the right to bodily sovereignty in the case of pregnancy wherein both parties were consenting.

It is not that I hate woman, I just don't agree that they should be able to abort something that will likely develop into a human in around 9 months.

[Lunalia]

Logic and Science. That is what's wrong with us.

Science says that fetuses are alive. Science and Logic are what you are fighting.

Tumors are also alive. I don't see anyone lobbying to save the lives of innocent tumors. You should go out and spread the word that these innocent cells must be protected.

[Kengburg]

Abortion is not illegal, and thus doesn't constitute murder.

Slavery wasn't illegal, too, up until a few hundred years ago. Same went for putting Jews into concentration camps. Don't pull the "if not illegal, then not a crime" card on me. Just as slavery is wrong and genocide is wrong, so is abortion.

Oh and, I am sorry, but abortion is illegal now, at least in North Dakota, therefore its a crime under the law. Same goes for Ireland and several other countries.

No, let me clarify currently ABORTION IS NOT ILLEGAL IN NORTH DAKOTA the governor still hasn't signed off the bill and other procedures need to take place!

[Fintanland]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

And what's wrong with you? You want to condemn every woman who has a pregnancy develop from sex to nine months of increasing pain and discomfort, followed by an intensely painful and (rarely, but sometimes) lethal birth.

[Farnhamia]

Abortion is not illegal, and thus doesn't constitute murder.

Slavery wasn't illegal, too, up until a few hundred years ago. Same went for putting Jews into concentration camps. Don't pull the "if not illegal, then not a crime" card on me. Just as slavery is wrong and genocide is wrong, so is abortion.

Oh and, I am sorry, but abortion is illegal now, at least in North Dakota, therefore its a crime under the law. Same goes for Ireland and several other countries.

Actually, it's not illegal in ND until the ballot measure passes in eight or nine months. Ironic, that time period.

[Asperia]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

The fetus is neither sapient nor sentient; its life is purely vegetative at that point.

[Atnae]

Logic and Science. That is what's wrong with us.

Science says that fetuses are alive. Science and Logic are what you are fighting.

The question isn't about whether foetuses are are alive. The question is whether they should have personhood.

[Cosara]

What the fuck is wrong with all of you? Why do you think that the mother should have the authority to play god and decide weather or not her child has a right to live? Every single person and fetus on planet earth has a right to live. It's just you Pro-Choice people who want to justify taking a fetus's life before it even begins. What is wrong with you!?

Yeah, you've officially run out of arguments and started to insult the posters. Good job.

I have made MANY arguments, but you always circle around and say

"Fetuses are just worthless sack of cell parasites that have no right to exist and should be brutally murdered."