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Samuraikoku
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Postby Samuraikoku » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:57 am

Cosara wrote:Put your own definition or else I put mine, and mine is

"A Living Human."


You're not the UN, nor am I. Your definition is irrelevant.

Tango, down.

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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:57 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:58 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

So the source is revealed. Welcome to my ignore list, you ignorant fuck.
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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:58 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.


Well, it happened.

NS is Stormfront.

Time to pack up, folks, we're no longer wanted.
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Postby Dilange » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:58 am

Divair wrote:
Dilange wrote:Speaking about that, I got Wilhelm Frick as my role in my next MUN conference.

Oh god, that's hilarious.

I picked it because the Allies roles for the Joint Committee were boring.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:58 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

You're a lovely person. Please, tell me more about the morals I should follow.
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Postby Spiritwolf » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:59 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:
What I don't "get" is the fact that they felt the need to change the name simply because some politically correct liberal "heroes" decided it was "offensive."

I call it the Wehrmacht because that is what it was. Not this poilitically correct UN liberal biased "Bundeswehr"

The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.

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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:59 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Seperates wrote:You can be proud of your heritage while admitting the flaws. It's much like being proud of Mexican heritage while disowning the machismo aspect.


^ This

And I will have to correct you. All over Latin America machismo is a common thing that is imbedded in society, not just Mexico, then again most of us are trying to get rid of it.


For example:

My father has a machismo stick up his ass.

Divair wrote:
Dilange wrote:Speaking about that, I got Wilhelm Frick as my role in my next MUN conference.

Oh god, that's hilarious.


Samuraikoku wrote:
Cosara wrote:Put your own definition or else I put mine, and mine is

"A Living Human."


You're not the UN, nor am I. Your definition is irrelevant.

Tango, down.


The only thing that would make this thread any better is if we were playing volleyball on the beach before going to the aircraft carrier to fly in a jet and take a picture of a Soviet pilot while upside down.

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Osterreichischen
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Postby Osterreichischen » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:59 am

Condunum wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:shouldn't y'all take this Nazi talk to a new thread?

This is what happens why ignorant people who up claiming to want to joing the Wehrmacht.

You don't have to believe me, that doesn't matter.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:59 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Why would you call it the Wehrmacht when you could call it the Bundeswehr and not have to look like a wanna be Nazi?



North Dakota cannot override the Supreme Court. Once they try to enforce this law, it'll get struck down.

And the law hasn't been passed yet.


Wannabe nazi? You either are a Nazi or you're not.

There is no Nazi party in Germany any more, so you're either not a Nazi, or you're not a Nazi.

I call it Wehrmacht because I'm not part of the politically correct UN liberal fans. I call it that because I don't like that the left wants Germany to feel eternally guilty for something our grandparents did.

So you want to act like a Nazi out of spite? Mature.

Negros can be proud of their heritage, the Mexicans and Asians of theirs, but when a white person says we're proud of our heritage, it's all of a sudden racist.

I never suggested that you're racist. I just pointed out that when you call the modern German military by the wrong name, the same name the Nazis called their military, it makes you look like a fan of the Nazis. And the Nazis were all round awful and shouldn't have any fans.

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Nua Corda
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:00 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:01 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Spiritwolf wrote:The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:01 pm

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

You dont hate non aryans, yet you support invading other countries, kicking people out of their homes and lands and placing people you see as superior in their place and disallowing mixed marriage. Fucking. Wow.
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Postby Dilange » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:01 pm

Osterreichischen wrote:
Urmanian wrote:why won't you call it Reichswehr then, after all that was the traditional name before Hitler renamed it because he hated his heritage and felt guilty for something his grandparents in the German Empire did


Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

I dont see killing Jews or anyone not Aryan on that list, so I doubt youre serious.

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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:01 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:02 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.

You lie, sir. The Bundeswehr is composed of the Heer, the Marine, the Luftwaffe, the Streitkräftebasis, and the Zentraler Sanitätsdienst.

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Osterreichischen
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Postby Osterreichischen » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:02 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:
Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.


Well, it happened.

NS is Stormfront.

Time to pack up, folks, we're no longer wanted.


Look don't compare me to the hating rabble of idiots on StormFront, they HATE Jews and non-whites.

I don't hate Jews or non-whites.

What I recognize is that as a Nordic-Aryan, we're in a position to help others not hate them because of our superior intellect and history of innovation and invention.

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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:02 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.

No it doesnt, the Wehrmacht ceased to exist come mid 1945. Now as we have stressed so many fucking times, it is the BUNDESWEHR.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:03 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

*posts on NSG*


You could say...

IT'S A MADHOUSE. A MADHOUSE!!!!

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Postby Seperates » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:03 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Seperates wrote:You can be proud of your heritage while admitting the flaws. It's much like being proud of Mexican heritage while disowning the machismo aspect.


^ This

And I will have to correct you. All over Latin America machismo is a common thing that is imbedded in society, not just Mexico, then again most of us are trying to get rid of it.

That is true.
I myself am proud of my Austrian and Germanic heritage, with it's music and architechture. And while I recognized that it existed do not like the "nobility above all", warrior culture, and the more racist aspects.

However, I am not Austrian, nor am I German. I am an American (United Statesian). And I am priviledged for that fact, so I feel like it is part of my duty as one of the priviledged to give back to the world, without overtaking it. America is the great and terrible... we need to be aware of the terrible part.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:03 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:The Wehrmacht was disbanded. It's like if I insisted on calling Audioslave, Rage Against the Machine. People would call me stupid and get really mad at me.

The "Wehrmacht" is composed of the Luftwaffe, the Kriegsmarine, and the Heer. It still exists as such.

Take a look at this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht

German Armed forces from 1935 - 1945.
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:03 pm

Osterreichischen wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Well, it happened.

NS is Stormfront.

Time to pack up, folks, we're no longer wanted.


Look don't compare me to the hating rabble of idiots on StormFront, they HATE Jews and non-whites.

I don't hate Jews or non-whites.

What I recognize is that as a Nordic-Aryan, we're in a position to help others not hate them because of our superior intellect and history of innovation and invention.


So, you're one of those Stealth-Nazis, like Ron Paul?
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:04 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:*posts on NSG*


You could say...

IT'S A MADHOUSE. A MADHOUSE!!!!


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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:04 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:
Look don't compare me to the hating rabble of idiots on StormFront, they HATE Jews and non-whites.

I don't hate Jews or non-whites.

What I recognize is that as a Nordic-Aryan, we're in a position to help others not hate them because of our superior intellect and history of innovation and invention.


So, you're one of those Stealth-Nazis, like Ron Paul?

I don't HATE people, I just think I'm better than anyone else.



Egoism in its purest form.

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Osterreichischen
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Postby Osterreichischen » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:04 pm

Dilange wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:
Adolf Hitler's parents were Austrian, not German.

They were not citizens of the German Empire, they were Austrian.

I don't call it Reichswehr because I'm not a fan of what the WIlhelms did, especially when they [he] ignored Herr Bismarck.

I believe in many things that Hitler did, such as:

- Against Race Mixing

- Anti-Communist, Anti-Liberalism

- Aryan Race

- Deutsche Lebensraum

- Conscription to maintain a strong military.

None of this makes me a racist. why?

I don't hate Non-Aryans, I don't have a reason to.

Yes, I believe my Nordic-Aryan race is superior, that doesn't mean I hate the other races, it means we're in a position to help them rather than hate them.

I dont see killing Jews or anyone not Aryan on that list, so I doubt youre serious.


I don't believe in the Jewish part, or killing non-Aryans. We don't need to kill them, as an Aryan I just don't mix races with them. They live in their land, we live in ours.

Look you can sit there and point fingers all you want, but the point is, I'm not a racist and besides this has completely hijacked the thread anyways.

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