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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:30 am

Spiritwolf wrote:The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved. Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now. And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.


You are such a deplorable human being.

Women have a right to do what they wish with their bodies. You as a man have only a minimal say, and that is only if your significant other trusts you enough to be part of the opinions in her decision making, but you certainly have no rights over her body.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:30 am

Spiritwolf wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Your opinions sicken me. You deprive women of their right to liberty and right of free choice in direct violation of this nations constitution.

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved...

The decision in Roe v. Wade explains that the Constitution's various uses of the term "person" could not reasonably be understood as including the unborn. The Constitution of the United States protects the rights of all people in its jurisdictions, and the unborn aren't people.

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Postby Osterreichischen » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

Condunum wrote:
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There's a huge difference.

Women having sex before marriage and getting inconveniently pregnant and then having an abortion because it doesn't fit into their lives, is not the same as "when you drive you do not consent to being run into."

The point is, if you're going to engage in pre-marital sexual behavior, without the ability or want to care for a child, then your ignorance is at fault, not the child.

Pregnancy is a risk of sex. You do not consent to that risk, even if you acknowledge that it may happen.

Also, slut shamming, nice. Good to know you're on the same mental level as a rapist.


Yeah because someone who waits all their life to have sex because he considers it something special that should only be shared with the woman he's going to spend the rest of his life with is at the same "mental level as a rapist."

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Postby Condunum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The Wehrmacht is not the Bundeswehr. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your German fetishism.

Fetishism?

I am German you idiot.

No you aren't. If you were, you would have known that, and called it the appropriate thing.

I don't run around saying I'm joining the continental militia.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

The Realm of God wrote:
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I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.


Your not German. Not by any stretch of the imagination, not if you can't tell us what the name of your army is. Which you should know, since you claim to have applied to join. Everything else you say is now in question.


I'm not even German and even I know that.

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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

Spiritwolf wrote:
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Your opinions sicken me. You deprive women of their right to liberty and right of free choice in direct violation of this nations constitution.

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved. Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now. And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.


You appear to be threatening me. I don't appreciate that Internet Tough Guy.
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Postby Sophian » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

Common NS Patron on abortion thread: "WHAT? YOU HAVE CRITICISM OF ABORTION? I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR SYMPATHY FOR FETUSES! YOU ARE A MORON! FETUSES ARE THE PARASITIC SCUM OF THE EARTH NEXT TO REPUBLICANS! YOU HATE WOMEN! YOU THINK WOMEN SHOULD BE SLAVES! YOU PROBABLY HATE OBAMA BECAUSE HE'S BLACK! OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN EXTREMIST IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME AT ALL ON THIS ONE ISSUE! ANY RESTRICTION ON ABORTION IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!"

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Postby Spiritwolf » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:
I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.


Wehrmacht is specifically the term used for the German army during WWII.

Why don't you just say "the German military?" or just "the military"? We don't have to know you're from Germany.

Being of Germanic lineage is an honor.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:32 am

Osterreichischen wrote:Fetishism?

I am German you idiot.

Then you should be aware of the terms.
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Postby Condunum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:32 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Condunum wrote:Pregnancy is a risk of sex. You do not consent to that risk, even if you acknowledge that it may happen.

Also, slut shamming, nice. Good to know you're on the same mental level as a rapist.


Yeah because someone who waits all their life to have sex because he considers it something special that should only be shared with the woman he's going to spend the rest of his life with is at the same "mental level as a rapist."

Yes, you are. Slut shamming is as bad as being willing to rape. You are disgusting.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:32 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:The Wehrmacht is not the Bundeswehr. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your German fetishism.

Fetishism?

I am German you idiot.
Yet you dont know the name of the German Army (its Heer, by the way) which you have supposedly applied for.

edit: Seems Realm said this already.
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Postby Osterreichischen » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:33 am

Tsuntion wrote:
Osterreichischen wrote:Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.


Abortion is one way to assume responsibility (rather than just ignoring the situation).

The woman doesn't have to deal with a baby yet, just the pregnancy. She can take responsibility for it by terminating it if she doesn't want to have the baby, or by letting it continue if she does want the baby. Letting it continue when she doesn't want the baby and not making plans for the baby, ignoring the pregnancy and hoping stuff works out, etc. are ways of not taking responsibility.


If she doesn't want the baby, then she should completely avoid the risk altogether, act more responsible and wait for sex until she is in a position to maintain and take care of a small child.

How hard is that?

Is the desire to have sex more important than ending up having to kill a baby?

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:33 am

Ujh Uhj wrote:But, the only reason people have sex is to reproduce... right?!?!?!?!

why else would anyone do THAT?
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:33 am

The Rich Port wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Your not German. Not by any stretch of the imagination, not if you can't tell us what the name of your army is. Which you should know, since you claim to have applied to join. Everything else you say is now in question.


I'm not even German and even I know that.


^This

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Postby Samuraikoku » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:33 am

Corsara's gone, Turvelia's gone, Lerodan Chinamerica's gone, that's three tangos down. Other two are not worth the effort.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:If a woman would rather give birth to a child rather than have an abortion when she wasn't ready or fully able to care for it, that is a bigger problem with worse consequences.


The problem is engaging in sexual behavior when you're not in a position to maintain a family in general. If you're not in a situation to take care of yourself and a small child, you're certainly not in a position to make the decision of having sex.

Why?

Because sex has obvious risks. Becoming Pregnant is one of them, and the biggest risk one must be aware of and prepared for.

If a woman would rather kill a baby than wait for marriage to have sex, I'd suggest taking a look at her priorities in life.

No babies are harmed during an abortion but if it makes you feel better, you can call a fetus a baby. The morality argument is all fine and good, and you're free to believe in whatever morals you care to and live that way.

But back in the real world, sex is going to happen. You're not going to stop it. And abortions can be the responsible choice for a variety of reasons.
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Postby Nua Corda » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Samuraikoku wrote:Corsara's gone, Turvelia's gone, Lerodan Chinamerica's gone, that's three tangos down.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Samuraikoku wrote:Corsara's gone, Turvelia's gone, Lerodan Chinamerica's gone, that's three tangos down.

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Postby Condunum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
Abortion is one way to assume responsibility (rather than just ignoring the situation).

The woman doesn't have to deal with a baby yet, just the pregnancy. She can take responsibility for it by terminating it if she doesn't want to have the baby, or by letting it continue if she does want the baby. Letting it continue when she doesn't want the baby and not making plans for the baby, ignoring the pregnancy and hoping stuff works out, etc. are ways of not taking responsibility.


If she doesn't want the baby, then she should completely avoid the risk altogether, act more responsible and wait for sex until she is in a position to maintain and take care of a small child.

How hard is that?

Is the desire to have sex more important than ending up having to kill a baby?

Sex is not some taboo things. It's a very simple, enjoyable physical act. Not soe sort of super special romantic thing that must be saved. Screw your archaic beliefs.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Spiritwolf wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Wehrmacht is specifically the term used for the German army during WWII.

Why don't you just say "the German military?" or just "the military"? We don't have to know you're from Germany.

Being of Germanic lineage is an honor.


That kinda makes sense.

Being of Puerto Rican lineage is the equivalent of being a descendant of squid.

Oh, wait, no it doesn't.

SIEG RICAN.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am

Samuraikoku wrote:Corsara's gone, Turvelia's gone, Lerodan Chinamerica's gone, that's three tangos down.

WAAAGH.
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Postby Dilange » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:35 am

Osterreichischen wrote:Just keep your legs closed until you're financially stable enough to have a family.

Theres something called contraception. Im suprised you didnt say sluts or whores either.

Seriously, how hard is this?

You remind me of some conservative radio host who basically said the same thing. You almost said it word for word too...bah bah bah sheep.

There'd be no need for abortions if people would just control themselves and be smart about things.

Rape doesnt need abortion? Saving the life of the female doesnt need aborton? Incest impregnation doesnt need abortion? What rainbow-tinted world do you live in?

I waited until I was married, and so did my wife, I didn't even have a girlfriend until I graduated college, got my Law Degree and eventually bought a house.

Alright we got a statement here given by a man on the internet. Any fucks given? Going for one fuck? One fuck. One fuck. Half a fuck?

Then, after I was able to maintain a family and take care of a woman, then I looked for a relationship.

Still no fucks given anywhere?

Why is it so hard for people to do things the right way?

People have different ideas of right and wrong.

People create their own problems.

Yea. That woman dressed like that, so she asked to be raped. Amirite?

I can't stand how absolutely retarded everyone seems to be.

I dont think you know abortion is used in situations beyond control. Like rape, incest. etc.

And their incessant need to do drugs and drink.

Wtf are you talking about?

I'm not even religious, and I can see how these things are stupid.

Fuck the woman's right to her body.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:35 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:Corsara's gone, Turvelia's gone, Lerodan Chinamerica's gone, that's three tangos down.

The Emperors light shines upon us this day. *nods*


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Postby Ifreann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:35 am

Osterreichischen wrote:
Tsuntion wrote:
Abortion is one way to assume responsibility (rather than just ignoring the situation).

The woman doesn't have to deal with a baby yet, just the pregnancy. She can take responsibility for it by terminating it if she doesn't want to have the baby, or by letting it continue if she does want the baby. Letting it continue when she doesn't want the baby and not making plans for the baby, ignoring the pregnancy and hoping stuff works out, etc. are ways of not taking responsibility.


If she doesn't want the baby, then she should completely avoid the risk altogether, act more responsible and wait for sex until she is in a position to maintain and take care of a small child.

How hard is that?

Is the desire to have sex more important than ending up having to kill a baby?

If you don't want to die in a car accident, never get into a car. How hard is that? Is the desire to drive more important than a fiery death?

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:35 am

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Your opinions sicken me. You deprive women of their right to liberty and right of free choice in direct violation of this nations constitution.

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved. Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now. And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.

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