All Abortion Illegal in North Dakota

[Samuraikoku]

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

Rape. Your argument is invalid.

[Starkindler]

Yes, North Dakota. Give fetuses US citizenship by your Constitution. Then, simply have a few immigrants over, let's say a month. Have them conceive. Since the fetus is a valid US citizen in N-Dak. family protection kicks in (federal laws), and the conceived couple can immigrate. Eat what you cooked, republicans...

Seriously. :palm: :palm: :palm: You can't do anything against teens having sex. Even in your glorified dark Middle Ages, teens had sex. By then it wasn't a public issue however, because people could keep silent about it, or fathers simply forced them to marry. You can, however get over your prudish Christian ethics, and get normal sex ed to teens, and encourage them to use protection. Rather than keep them away from it, like with a ban on contraceptives, or having abstinence-only sex ed.

Also, incidents happen. 6 weeks abortion is pretty normal. Or if you want your dearest anti-choice message through, then maybe consider that impregnating a woman against her will is rape? No.. you can't live with that. Surely, you're too misogynist to even consider that women have feelings.

Or consider that if your bill gets through then it'd result in massive child negligence and a sharp increase in divorces? Because these children will grow up in unhappiness or poverty, and will have a great chance of becoming criminals. If I was a Bible-thumping Christian extremist like you, I would make up some data or use your nonsense about how disappearing fathers make boys gay, because homophobia is the only thing extremist Christians will consider superior to their God's word.

21st century. The Land of the Free.

Of course, I only aimed this post at the mindless Bible-drones who can't see anything behind what their parish says to them. I did not mean to hurt anyone who's not concerned, and was not talking about those Christians and believers of other religions who can distinguish faith from life.

[Condunum]

Oh, I see. I'm carrying arround several species of bacteria within my stomach and so is everyone else here. Remind me what my obligation to these living creatures is?

Oh and legally we retain our lawful rights from cradle to grave.

If you're comparing a living human inside of a woman to "several species of bacteria" then I can see where this will go.

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

When you drive you do not consent to being run into. Your argument fails in this regard.

[Osterreichischen]

You mean talking about how I decided against joining the Wehrmacht because it wouldn't be fair to my family is a childish value?

You declined to join the Third Reich's armed forces?

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

[Samuraikoku]

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr

[The Rich Port]

You declined to join the Third Reich's armed forces?

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

Wehrmacht is specifically the term used for the German army during WWII.

Why don't you just say "the German military?" or just "the military"? We don't have to know you're from Germany.

[Ujh Uhj]

But, the only reason people have sex is to reproduce... right?!?!?!?!

[The Huskar Social Union]

This violates the constitution, so the courts should deal with this soon.

Still waiting, Cosara.

Do you honestly expect him to reply?

[Spiritwolf]

Not for much longer "Dear".

Your opinions sicken me. You deprive women of their right to liberty and right of free choice in direct violation of this nations constitution.

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved. Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now. And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.

[His Noodliness the FSM]

By the way, since a fertilized egg attaches to the endometrium and feeds upon the mother's nutrients, it can biologically be called a parasite (you know what morning sickness is? Well that's actually the immunes system's response to a parasite. hormones are the only thing preventing the embryo from being killed). So all you anti abortion people are claiming that a woman should be forced to house a parasite. I can't imagine having a baby grow and feed off of you is so different than a guy having a tapeworm in his stomach.

[Samuraikoku]

Do you honestly expect him to reply?

He repeated the UHDR quite insistently, it should only be natural that he would read it before realizing it does not say what he wants it to say.

[Ifreann]

Oh, I see. I'm carrying arround several species of bacteria within my stomach and so is everyone else here. Remind me what my obligation to these living creatures is?

Oh and legally we retain our lawful rights from cradle to grave.

If you're comparing a living human inside of a woman to "several species of bacteria" then I can see where this will go.

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women also stop being pregnant because they make a choice. A choice to abort their pregnancy.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

The responsible thing to do if you find yourself pregnant and don't want to be, for whatever reason, is to end the pregnancy. Killing this "baby" is assuming responsibility.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Of course, I only aimed this post at the mindless Bible-drones who can't see anything behind what their parish says to them. I did not mean to hurt anyone who's not concerned, and was not talking about those Christians and believers of other religions who can distinguish faith from life.

Thank you for making the distinction

[The Nuclear Fist]

You declined to join the Third Reich's armed forces?

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

The Wehrmacht is not the Bundeswehr. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your German fetishism.

[Osterreichischen]

If you're comparing a living human inside of a woman to "several species of bacteria" then I can see where this will go.

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

When you drive you do not consent to being run into. Your argument fails in this regard.

There's a huge difference.

Women having sex before marriage and getting inconveniently pregnant and then having an abortion because it doesn't fit into their lives, is not the same as "when you drive you do not consent to being run into."

The point is, if you're going to engage in pre-marital sexual behavior, without the ability or want to care for a child, then your ignorance is at fault, not the child.

[Desperate Measures]

Oh, I see. I'm carrying arround several species of bacteria within my stomach and so is everyone else here. Remind me what my obligation to these living creatures is?

Oh and legally we retain our lawful rights from cradle to grave.

If you're comparing a living human inside of a woman to "several species of bacteria" then I can see where this will go.

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

If a woman would rather give birth to a child rather than have an abortion when she wasn't ready or fully able to care for it, that is a bigger problem with worse consequences.

[Osterreichischen]

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

The Wehrmacht is not the Bundeswehr. But please, don't let facts get in the way of your German fetishism.

Fetishism?

I am German you idiot.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Your opinions sicken me. You deprive women of their right to liberty and right of free choice in direct violation of this nations constitution.

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved. Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now. And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.

Roe vs Wade says abortion is a constitutional right. Sorry, dear, but the buck stops there. Full stop.

[Samuraikoku]

The Constitution of the United States of America protects ALL Americans rights to include those that have just been concieved.

Roe vs. Wade says otherwise.

Women have been literally getting away with murder for far too long now.

Murder is not defined that way.

And yes, I fully intend to curtail this particular problem before more innocent children die. It's called a "VOTE". It is the ultimate use of force. And I am going to use it on you with extreme prejudice.

Semper-Fi, fake Marine.

[The Realm of God]

You declined to join the Third Reich's armed forces?

I suggest you refrain from mocking Germany.

Wehrmacht is simply Army, Armed Forces, etc.

I use that word because it is more specific, and, it is called the Wehrmacht.

Your not German. Not by any stretch of the imagination, not if you can't tell us what the name of your army is. Which you should know, since you claim to have applied to join. Everything else you say is now in question.

[Nua Corda]

Ooh, are we finally doing this? I love this!

My name is The Rich Port, I've had sex with lots of women, picking up feminism as a by-product; my parents and their friends are the biggest hypocrites I've ever met in my life, and as a result they've colored my perception of "conservatives" as lying, selfish phonies mostly in it for themselves and valuing not looking bad in front of the neighbours as priority #1; I kinda have a problem with abortion, but I have a bigger problem with the people trying to ban it.

My name is long, so just call me Confini XD!

I haven't had any sex with women, but I picked up feminism as well, you wouldn't really say a bi-product since Christianity teaches this about women being equal as well. Personally conservative but politically liberal, I believe in egalitarianism but I also have a different set of rules (oftentimes FAR MORE STRICT) than the rules I have for others. While I believe that abortion is somewhat morally wrong, I will never push my beliefs onto another person, not even a significant other because she is free to do as she wishes. Of course, I do believe there has to be healthy discussion in a loving couple about this, but I honestly believe in the body sovereignty of a woman, and she would have the last word with what to do with her body.

I like this game.

My name is Corda. I haven't had sex with women (not for lack of desire to do so), but I have a strong belief in equality and sovereignty. You could probably sum up my social beliefs as "an it harm none, do what ye will", meaning that I don't believe I have a right to tell you what to do with your body unless you're endangering someone else. I don't pretend to have any special knowledge of women, and it's largely because of that that I firmly believe that abortion is none of my business. I believe that it's a big decision, and I'd personally prefer to discuss it with my partner, but I would always leave the final decision to her. And I would always strongly oppose those chauvinistic and misguided bastards who would take that right from her. I try to have respect for Conservatives, I really do, but the type of "Conservatives" we get around here, who I like to call "Regressives", really makes that hard. To put it bluntly, they come off as arrogant, ignorent, naive, sexist, poor-hating garbage who aught to be banned from the internet and sent back to grade school where they belong.

[Samuraikoku]

Fetishism?

I am German you idiot.

Then you should know it's Bundeswehr, unless you have a fetish for Nazis. Either that or you're not German.

[Tsuntion]

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

Abortion is one way to assume responsibility (rather than just ignoring the situation).

The woman doesn't have to deal with a baby yet, just the pregnancy. She can take responsibility for it by terminating it if she doesn't want to have the baby, or by letting it continue if she does want the baby. Letting it continue when she doesn't want the baby and not making plans for the baby, ignoring the pregnancy and hoping stuff works out, etc. are ways of not taking responsibility.

[Condunum]

When you drive you do not consent to being run into. Your argument fails in this regard.

There's a huge difference.

Women having sex before marriage and getting inconveniently pregnant and then having an abortion because it doesn't fit into their lives, is not the same as "when you drive you do not consent to being run into."

The point is, if you're going to engage in pre-marital sexual behavior, without the ability or want to care for a child, then your ignorance is at fault, not the child.

Pregnancy is a risk of sex. You do not consent to that risk, even if you acknowledge that it may happen.

Also, slut shamming, nice. Good to know you're on the same mental level as a rapist.

[Osterreichischen]

If you're comparing a living human inside of a woman to "several species of bacteria" then I can see where this will go.

Women are pregnant because they make a choice, whereas all life already consists of micro-organisms, it's not a choice it's how you exist.

Women are pregnant because they decided to engage in behavior that has obvious risks. If they would rather kill a baby than assume responsibility, that's a problem.

If a woman would rather give birth to a child rather than have an abortion when she wasn't ready or fully able to care for it, that is a bigger problem with worse consequences.

The problem is engaging in sexual behavior when you're not in a position to maintain a family in general. If you're not in a situation to take care of yourself and a small child, you're certainly not in a position to make the decision of having sex.

Why?

Because sex has obvious risks. Becoming Pregnant is one of them, and the biggest risk one must be aware of and prepared for.

If a woman would rather kill a baby than wait for marriage to have sex, I'd suggest taking a look at her priorities in life.