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Postby Azzers » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Azzers wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.


Aww, aren't you just adorable!

Yep! Sure am.


The way you said

it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad


made me think of my little siter and thats what I say when she says that to me
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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:33 pm

Parthenon wrote:Honestly, try harder.

You insensitive pig!
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Postby Sarkhaan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:34 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


So, a cancer patient who's on the terminal stages of his disease uses pot to ''escape'' reality? Heh, and here I thought they used it to alleviate their pain. Silly me. :roll:
Those evil doctors!

Fentanyl lollipops.

Nothing like taking a drug that isn't addictive, and replacing it with one that is highly addictive.

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Postby Kalnisov » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:34 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.


I'm also 15, and I do not do it. I have many friends who do, and I am also strongly for it's legalization because there is really no reason for it to be illegal, and keeping it so just provides a significant drain on the economy through enforcement and jailing the users.

Also, I don't quite think you understand just how many things fall under the label of "drug", and most everything is bad for you in some way.
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Postby RAHIT RA » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:35 pm

I would just like to bring to peoples attention that a rather neat pun can be very easily constructed from the name 'Doctor Nutt'

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Postby Parthenon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:35 pm

Sarkhaan wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


So, a cancer patient who's on the terminal stages of his disease uses pot to ''escape'' reality? Heh, and here I thought they used it to alleviate their pain. Silly me. :roll:
Those evil doctors!

Fentanyl lollipops.

Nothing like taking a drug that isn't addictive, and replacing it with one that is highly addictive.

Did you miss the "terminal stages" part or are you just ignoring it to try to make a point?
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:36 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.
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Postby Flameswroth » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:36 pm

Sumamba Buwhan wrote:Why don't you like people who use weed?

I see the use of perception-altering substances, from alcohol to heroin, as a form of weakness. Whether used in a recreational manner, as a coping mechanism, because of addiction...it doesn't matter. It's a physical augmentation/distortion of perceived reality, and I find the desire to indulge in that sort of thing disgusting. The reflection that has on the person using such substances is what causes my dislike for them.

As for UT's question regarding my stance, essentially asking if "I'm only okay with people doing something if I do it", I was making the statement to which you were referring in the context of a vote. My perception of voting is not choosing whatever seems most politically correct or what will make people happy...it's asking for you opinion. 'Who do you WANT to be president', 'who do you WANT to be the senator'. In that case, a cannabis legalization question would be asking 'Do you WANT marijuana to be legal', and the answer in my case is 'no'.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:36 pm

Totally and utterly against legalization.

I mean, if it was legalized then my friend Kyle would have to live with me: he practically makes a living off selling the stuff illegally.

The last thing I want is for some bum living in my house, but of all things his name has to be Kyle.

And nobody wants to know a guy named Kyle, let alone live with him.

No offense to the Kyles out there, you're alright. Just not the other ones.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:37 pm

Azzers wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Kobrania wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Kobrania wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:I hate potheads, as such, weed should remain a scheduled narcotic.


How mature.

Right, because sitting in a dimly lit basement and blazing up while listening to Pink Floyd on repeat and arguing the merits of Cheetos is much more mature...

Some need it for pain dude.

And it helps me concentrate, and less angry.

I have the right not to be a homicidal maniac!


Can't meditation make you concentrate and make you less angry?
There are other ways of solving your problems without drugs.

Anything you can suggest?
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The only reason I haven't slit my own throat or killed somebody is because of the decent sex I get.

When I don't have sex, I smoke, simple.


Find a hobby? :)


Isn't sex a hobby?


Individual hobby, then.

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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:37 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


So you want people to suffer, you evil person you. Get into the naughty boy corner.

And yeah, you express yourself like a little kid. :blink:
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Postby Sumamba Buwhan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:37 pm

Sarkhaan wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


So, a cancer patient who's on the terminal stages of his disease uses pot to ''escape'' reality? Heh, and here I thought they used it to alleviate their pain. Silly me. :roll:
Those evil doctors!

Fentanyl lollipops.

Nothing like taking a drug that isn't addictive, and replacing it with one that is highly addictive.


but it's legal!

My wife took anti-nausea drugs when she was going through chemotherapy but they hardly worked. She smoked weed and she was instantly feeling good and could eat enough to keep from losing massive amounts of weight.
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:38 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:<snip>

Couldn’t he make a living selling the stuff legally instead?
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Postby Iriena » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:39 pm

Pot is for those who wish to trash their bodies with worthless chemical shit. With regard to the "alcohol banning", maybe we SHOULD make it illegal.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:39 pm

Kobrania wrote:
Parthenon wrote:Honestly, try harder.

You insensitive pig!


Don't do that.

Yeah, you've had a lot previous moderation for flaming. Take 7 days to cool off. 7 day ban for Flaming
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Postby Sdaeriji » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm

Iriena wrote:Pot is for those who wish to trash their bodies with worthless chemical shit. With regard to the "alcohol banning", maybe we SHOULD make it illegal.


Coffee and Advil, too. Right?
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm

Kobrania wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


So you want people to suffer, you evil person you. Get into the naughty boy corner.

And yeah, you express yourself like a little kid. :blink:

No, theres millions of different types of drugs out there and you just have to use weed?
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm

The Tofu Islands wrote:
Rhodmhire wrote:<snip>

Couldn’t he make a living selling the stuff legally instead?


His name is Kyle, he's a bum.

Two very good reasons he couldn't make a living doing anything legally.
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Postby Kalnisov » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


Alright, that's fine if you are against it, your entitled to your own opinion. However you have yet to give a good reason as to WHY you are against it.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:42 pm

Iriena wrote:Pot is for those who wish to trash their bodies with worthless chemical shit. With regard to the "alcohol banning", maybe we SHOULD make it illegal.


Yeah, that'd go over so well with everybody...
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Postby Sdaeriji » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:42 pm

Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


Alright, that's fine if you are against it, your entitled to your own opinion. However you have yet to give a good reason as to WHY you are against it.


Or, more appropriately, why you being against it means I can't do it.
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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:42 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Kobrania wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


So you want people to suffer, you evil person you. Get into the naughty boy corner.

And yeah, you express yourself like a little kid. :blink:

No, theres millions of different types of drugs out there and you just have to use weed?

Because it's cheap and non addictive.
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:42 pm

Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?

Well I don't drink soda, don't drink coffee or tea. Sure I eat sugar but no, I did not know that they contain or are drugs. I remind you I am 15. I'm against drugs that are so famous to my generation. Like cocain, dope, weed etc. If you can tell I'm a little disgraced of my generation. Drugs that reduce pain? Some of them like weed for example. I don't think doctors should be giving their patients that.


Alright, that's fine if you are against it, your entitled to your own opinion. However you have yet to give a good reason as to WHY you are against it.

I don't have to give you a reason. I don't know you so what does it matter, it's not like I'm going to change your mind.
But if you want a reason, it's because I think it's bad. Theres your reason, plain and simple.
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Postby Kalnisov » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:44 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Iriena wrote:Pot is for those who wish to trash their bodies with worthless chemical shit. With regard to the "alcohol banning", maybe we SHOULD make it illegal.


Yeah, that'd go over so well with everybody...


Aye, it's very likely that the very same people who were campaigning against weed for being a drug would be all up in arms about "government having no right over my body" and such...

Ah, hypocrisy...
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:45 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?


That right there is the truth so many (almost everyone) people are unable to understand. One of the worst things it does can kill brain cells. "That's bad right?" Well guess what, television kills brain cells too. It's essentially t.v. in herbal form with the ability to help you recover from disease faster. "Well people have died from overdose." You can die from drinking too much water. There is almost nothing you can't overdose on. "It's the gateway to other drugs." The people that smoke marijuana for recreational purposes most likely aren't that concerned with the law, and as most people are unaware of how little it effects you, are probably not too concerned over their health. "It makes you think that it's not so bad and isn't effecting your body so much, so you decide to kick it up a notch and move on to harder drugs." Do you know why they think that? It's because it really isn't effecting their body so much. Think people, think!
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