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Ewa beach
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:25 pm

I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.
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Postby Kalnisov » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:25 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?
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Postby Sdaeriji » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:26 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates both as a preservative, antiseptic, and is high in calories.


Marijuana helps alleviate pain. There are other substances that can act as a perservative or an antiseptic, and there are most certainly other substances that are high in calories.

So, can we just fast forward to the part where you run away from this thread with your tail tucked between your legs after having your rampantly hypocritical view thoroughly dismantled yet again?
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:26 pm

Parthenon wrote:Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates both as a preservative, antiseptic, and is high in calories.


Yeah, and we can be ethanol and still have isoproyl as an antiseptic. We have plenty of other preservatives, and I don't see how being high in calories is a benefit.

Also, you don't necessarily smoke pot for the intention of escaping reality. You can smoke it to relax.
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Postby Kalnisov » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:26 pm

Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?
For strudel and the motherland!

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Postby Rutuma » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm

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Azzers
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Postby Azzers » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Kobrania wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Kobrania wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:I hate potheads, as such, weed should remain a scheduled narcotic.


How mature.

Right, because sitting in a dimly lit basement and blazing up while listening to Pink Floyd on repeat and arguing the merits of Cheetos is much more mature...

Some need it for pain dude.

And it helps me concentrate, and less angry.

I have the right not to be a homicidal maniac!


Can't meditation make you concentrate and make you less angry?
There are other ways of solving your problems without drugs.

Anything you can suggest?
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Find a hobby? :)


Isn't sex a hobby?
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm

Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:28 pm

Parthenon wrote:All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


How is relaxation tantamount to escaping reality?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Sarkhaan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:28 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.

Alcohol is also significantly more addictive, we have more effective antiseptics and preservatives, and better ways to get needed calories.
Weed stimulates hunger in cancer and AIDS patients, releaves eye pressure, and reduces pain.

Every drug has up sides and down sides. It is intellectually dishonest to try to claim otherwise, or claim that your drug of choice is somehow superior because it has "other uses". I'll give you a hint...it's number one use is as an intoxicant. At the very least, you should be for it's banning when used in such a manner.

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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".

So you want me to kill people, because I use marijuana to escape the fact I am mentally imbalanced?
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm

Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm

Rutuma wrote::palm:


Best first post ever? :eyebrow:

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


So, a cancer patient who's on the terminal stages of his disease uses pot to ''escape'' reality? Heh, and here I thought they used it to alleviate their pain. Silly me. :roll:
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:29 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


How is relaxation tantamount to escaping reality?

If the reality of your life is that it sucks then using marijuana to relax is in effect escaping reality.
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Postby Azzers » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:30 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


How is relaxation tantamount to escaping reality?


The same way jumping is tantamount to flying
Religion, because 'it just did' doesn't seem like a very good argument
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Postby Sdaeriji » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:30 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


Sure, if we maliciously redefine words to suit our own idiotic biases. Using alcohol as a preservative and an antiseptic is just escaping the reality of germs, you see.
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Postby Kobrania » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:30 pm

Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


How is relaxation tantamount to escaping reality?

If the reality of your life is that it sucks then using marijuana to relax is in effect escaping reality.

Some people use tea and coffee to relax, should they be illegal too?
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Postby Azzers » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:31 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.


Aww, aren't you just adorable!
Religion, because 'it just did' doesn't seem like a very good argument
Just because I believe in Allah, doesn't make me stupid
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:31 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".


So, a cancer patient who's on the terminal stages of his disease uses pot to ''escape'' reality? Heh, and here I thought they used it to alleviate their pain. Silly me. :roll:
Those evil doctors!

Fentanyl lollipops.
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Postby Ewa beach » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:31 pm

Azzers wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.


Aww, aren't you just adorable!

Yep! Sure am.
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Postby Sarkhaan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:31 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".

No more so than the medicinal use of that fetanyl you mentioned earlier.

Am I trying to escape reality by taking tylenol for my sore knee? No? Then is a chronic back pain sufferer trying to escape reality by taking marijuana for their pain?

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Postby Sumamba Buwhan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


Marijuana is currently being prescribed by doctors for medical use.

You should look up how important hemp has been to our founding fathers and beyond.
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Postby Natapoc » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm

Ewa beach wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Ewa beach wrote:I'm 15 and I'm against it. I know a couple of you most of you will be suprised that a teenager is against it, but ya I am.


Reason for being against?

Well it's a drug for starters and I think drugs are bad. I'm not so keen on going behind the school hitting up a joint like the rest of my generation, well most of them, not all of them.



Are you aware that coke, coffee, tea, sugar, all contain or are drugs? Are you against all drugs or just drugs that the government has decided are bad? Are you against the drugs used (for example) to reduce pain?
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:32 pm

Kobrania wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Kalnisov wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Parthenon wrote:If a person is actually in pain there are dozens of alternatives ranging from fentanyl to simple acetaminophen. "Pain" is not a valid excuse in the least bit.

Concentration, same thing.

Homicidal maniac? Asylums work for that.


Here's a thought, how about you just stop giving a shit about what other people do if they leave you alone?

When drugged up teenagers stop getting behind the wheel under the excuse that "Marijuana doesn't affect my driving as much as alcohol" then I will stop "giving a shit".


Then you support the illegalization of alcohol, right?

Not at all. Alcohol has uses other than escaping reality. Alcohol operates as a preservative, antiseptic, is high in calories, and is responsible for colonization of the new world by means of allowing long ocean travel in the days of old.


And Marijuana doesn't have any other uses whatsoever?

All of those uses harp back to "escaping reality".

So you want me to kill people, because I use marijuana to escape the fact I am mentally imbalanced?

Honestly, try harder.
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