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Postby Serrland » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:35 am

Arglorand wrote:
Megale Epeiros wrote:Romulus and Remus rule as co-kings of Rome. Maybe Remus kills Romulus.

Rema would've been an infinitely cooler name.

Also, I was thinking... maybe just let the Socialist Revolutionaries come out victorious after all the turmoil after the February Revolution in Russia, and let the peasants have their land, the people have their democracy, and have no Stalin coming to power?

I wouldn't be born, but that would have been nice.


Kerensky is one of my favorite people to play around with in terms of counter-factuals. I wonder how Kerensky would have fared had Kornilov not attempted his coup, or if he'd been made Prime Minister immediately after Nicholas II's abdication, rather than Lvov?

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:01 am

Serrland wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Rema would've been an infinitely cooler name.

Also, I was thinking... maybe just let the Socialist Revolutionaries come out victorious after all the turmoil after the February Revolution in Russia, and let the peasants have their land, the people have their democracy, and have no Stalin coming to power?

I wouldn't be born, but that would have been nice.


Kerensky is one of my favorite people to play around with in terms of counter-factuals. I wonder how Kerensky would have fared had Kornilov not attempted his coup, or if he'd been made Prime Minister immediately after Nicholas II's abdication, rather than Lvov?

I wish the Provisional Government would've stayed there, held elections (which the mainstream SRs under Chernov would've probably won) and everyone could go home.

But shit.
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Postby DrakoBlaria » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:49 am

The 30 year war never happened. This means that the crusade against the Ottomans actually happens and Charles Gonzaga with the help of the Maniots and other Greeks become the new Emperor of Constantinople.
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Postby Volnotova » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:13 pm

Jesus never lives...

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(Ancient) Egypt becomes a republic...

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Norte Chico civilizations never dies out, remains peaceful troughout and eventually dominates the entire Americas...

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Postby The Whispers » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:24 pm

Whoever first deviated from the blue/green salt and vinegar/cheese and onion system of crisp packaging was never born.

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Postby DrakoBlaria » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 pm

Ι would go to the first man who milked a cow and say 'What the fk were you thinking?'
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Postby Mkuki » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:26 pm

I'm not one to advocate changing history, I quite like my present life, but if I had to choose to change something I'd prevent Eisenhower and/or Kennedy from sending advisors to Vietnam. At the very least I'd prevent LBJ from escalating the Vietnam War.

Damn war wrecked his presidency.
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Postby Starkiller101 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:31 pm

I would stop hitlar from starting world war 2
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:33 pm

One of two things. Either:

1) Americans granted parliamentary representation; long, brutal war of independence doesn't happen, although peaceful secession might well at some point.

Or:

2) In the immensely confusing period between the October Revolution and the end of the Russian Civil War, both the antidemocratic Bolsheviks and the right-wing Whites lose out, leading to a democratic government in the former Russian Empire, with the Ukrainian Free Territory left to itself.

There'd be others but those would be the two major ones, not least because Hitler would have found it a lot more difficult to gain power had 2) happened.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:36 pm

Frisivisia wrote:I'd have Henry Wallace get FDR's VP spot in 1944.


I'd have FDR invest heavily in a space program and send Henry Wallace to the moon.

Then again, maybe Frisivisia is right. With Wallace on the ticket and as FDR's successor, the Republicans would have taken back the White House even sooner.


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Postby Conscentia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:03 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:I would stop hitlar from starting world war 2

I wouldn't. Hitler's actions discredited them.
Nazi has practically become an insult in the eyes of many.
You want to undo that?
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Postby Nothing because any name I want is taken » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:07 pm

If I could change one thing, it would be stopping the shutting down of Wardenclyffe Tower. I believe that free, wireless energy for the whole planet was a beautiful gift from Nikola Tesla that was shut down by J.P. Morgan. It would save so much money and would easily give power to third-world countries that need it. Also, it would allow for less pollution.

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:11 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:I would stop hitlar from starting world war 2

I wouldn't. Hitler's actions discredited them.
Nazi has practically become an insult in the eyes of many.
You want to undo that?


Probably wants to undo the millions who perished as a result of concentration camps and the war.

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Postby Conscentia » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Conscentia wrote:I wouldn't. Hitler's actions discredited them.
Nazi has practically become an insult in the eyes of many.
You want to undo that?

Probably wants to undo the millions who perished as a result of concentration camps and the war.

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Postby Arkiasis » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:53 pm

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Postby Petrovsegratsk » Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:08 pm

Prevent the Mongols from passing the Volga, prevent the Turks from taking Constantinople, prevent Austria-Hungary from being formed, prevent the Czar from selling Alaska, prevent the Reds from taking over Russia during the Civil War, prevent Adolf Hitler from being born.

Everything else can stay the same.
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Postby Valentir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:08 pm

Okay, I once said I wished for Great Britain to win the American Revolution I changed my mind. And now I would want to make it so the British Empire never lost India, Africa, Canada, Australia, etc.

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Postby Saint-Thor » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:46 pm

I would have a word with the king of France, Louis XV in the 1750s: "Please Your Majesty, stop listening to that bitch of yours, Madame de Pompadour, New France is more important than you think. I know she's your mistress but she knows shit about politics and war, come on, you're a man of science for Christ's sake. Also, while I'm here, Empress Elizabeth of Russia will die by the end of 1761. As successor, she chose her nephew Peter of Holstein, a stupid fuck who likes to play with toy soldiers (I'm not kidding Your Majesty). Problem is, he's pro-Prussian and he will withdraw from the war in 1762, allying Prussia while he's at it. You don't want that, trust me. So get ready to kill him a few months before Elizabeth's death. I know a few guys in Saint Petersburg who would be more than happy to help.

One last thing, while Montcalm is a capable man, give full power to Vaudreuil, he knows how to conduct wars in the North American theater. I mean, come on Montcalm, why the hell would you fight a pitched battle when you're outnumbered 5 to 1? Woodland warfare bro, guerrilla. This is North America, not Europe. Jeez get out of Versailles once in a while.

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Postby Ensiferum » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:48 pm

I'd tell Lil Wayne's mother to have an abortion. If she refused I'd offer her copious amounts of booze spiked with the morning after pill.

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Postby Cameroi » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:57 pm

if i could change just one thing, it would be whenever and where ever people got the idea that aggressiveness was in any way a good thing. i'm sure this was a very long time before rome or even greece. but yes, that is what i would change.
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Postby Norjagen » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:08 am

I would stop the 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. His death sparked WWI, the economic consequences of which made WW2 all but inevitable, as well as turning the tide of popularity against the Russian Czars and heralding the rise of the USSR. The outcome of WW2 led directly to the Cold war, the rise of numerous dictators across the globe and dirty little proxy wars, the deaths of untold millions, and the sorry political landscape that the world has found itself in today.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:11 am

Norjagen wrote:I would stop the 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. His death sparked WWI, the economic consequences of which made WW2 all but inevitable, as well as turning the tide of popularity against the Russian Czars and heralding the rise of the USSR. The outcome of WW2 led directly to the Cold war, the rise of numerous dictators across the globe and dirty little proxy wars, the deaths of untold millions, and the sorry political landscape that the world has found itself in today.

The USSR was not by any means a good regime, but feudalism was worse. Nothing seems worse, but feudalism is the most bigoted, contorted, terrible system ever of all time.
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Postby Norjagen » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:18 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Norjagen wrote:I would stop the 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria. His death sparked WWI, the economic consequences of which made WW2 all but inevitable, as well as turning the tide of popularity against the Russian Czars and heralding the rise of the USSR. The outcome of WW2 led directly to the Cold war, the rise of numerous dictators across the globe and dirty little proxy wars, the deaths of untold millions, and the sorry political landscape that the world has found itself in today.

The USSR was not by any means a good regime, but feudalism was worse. Nothing seems worse, but feudalism is the most bigoted, contorted, terrible system ever of all time.


It was, however, instrumental in the rise of the Cold War era that followed the 2nd world war. It was simply worth noting as another indirect consequence of that single moment in time.

Who'd have thought that a few disenfranchised Serbs would set into motion events that would color the next century with the blood of millions? The right people in the right place, huh?
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:28 am

Norjagen wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The USSR was not by any means a good regime, but feudalism was worse. Nothing seems worse, but feudalism is the most bigoted, contorted, terrible system ever of all time.


It was, however, instrumental in the rise of the Cold War era that followed the 2nd world war. It was simply worth noting as another indirect consequence of that single moment in time.

Who'd have thought that a few disenfranchised Serbs would set into motion events that would color the next century with the blood of millions? The right people in the right place, huh?

Bad shit always happens. No matter what you do, bad people and bad regimes emerge.
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