NATION

PASSWORD

If you could change history

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
Binyalan
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 48
Founded: Mar 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Binyalan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:18 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Binyalan wrote:I've recently succeeded in time travel and changed the events of the Battle of Waterloo so that Napoleon did not win.


Napoleon wouldn't have won at Waterloo had he had laser rifles. It was little more than a castleless seige.


Well, he originally won until I changed it so that he lost. I've found myself mentioned in the history books.

User avatar
Cameroi
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15788
Founded: Dec 24, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Cameroi » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:44 pm

to really change history, going back less then two thousand years is thinking too small. three or four or even five thousand would be better still.

a lot of the crap we keep screwing ourselves by repeating goes back approximately that far. rome was certainly the elephant in the room, but greece wasn't all warm and cuddly either.
truth isn't what i say. isn't what you say. isn't what anybody says. truth is what is there, when no one is saying anything.

"economic freedom" is "the cake"
=^^=
.../\...

User avatar
The Isles of Berk
Civil Servant
 
Posts: 7
Founded: Sep 30, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Isles of Berk » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:56 pm

Make it so Persia never existed...
Convince the Chinese to explore/aid the Indians against the British/French/Americans in every war.
Get rid of income tax, in the U.S. and go back to a flat tax on everything.
Make it so Hitler got into Art School.
Get rid of Rasputin, or at least make it so the Romanovs lived...
Give George Washington dentures from today, (those hippo ivory dentures most have hurt. :blink: )
Pay Benedict Arnold out of my own pocket so he didn't go all traitor >_>

User avatar
United Kingdom of Poland
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6977
Founded: Jun 08, 2012
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:07 pm

Fintanland wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:unless the british and french replace the idiots in charge that were there in WW1. nothing would change.

With who, pray tell? All the military commanders on all sides were caught wrong-footed by the new dominance of defense and the meatgrinder it created. World War I was an attempt to adjust to a whole new kind of war.

maybe they should have paid attention to the US Civil War.

User avatar
Dakini
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23085
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Dakini » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:20 pm

The Isles of Berk wrote:Make it so Persia never existed...

Why?
Last edited by Dakini on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:22 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Death Metal
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13542
Founded: Dec 22, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Death Metal » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:22 pm

The Isles of Berk wrote:Get rid of income tax, in the U.S. and go back to a flat tax on everything.


Why are you wanting to collapse the world economy exactly?
Only here when I'm VERY VERY VERY bored now.
(Trump is Reagan 2.0: A nationalistic bimbo who will ruin America.)
Death Metal: A nation founded on the most powerful force in the world: METAL! \m/
A non-idealist centre-leftist

Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

User avatar
EnragedMaldivians
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8450
Founded: Feb 01, 2010
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:36 pm

Dakini wrote:
The Isles of Berk wrote:Make it so Persia never existed...

Why?


I know. That was really random.
Taking a break.

User avatar
Serrland
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11968
Founded: Sep 30, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Serrland » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:39 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Dakini wrote:Why?


I know. That was really random.


No kidding. How shitty would it be if we had to call these little cuties "those cats from that one place east of Mesopotamia and south of the Caspian" instead of Persians?

User avatar
Ensiferum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 922
Founded: Feb 17, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Ensiferum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:39 pm

I would have Carter elected for a second term.

User avatar
The Mercenary Peoples
Envoy
 
Posts: 310
Founded: Dec 14, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Mercenary Peoples » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:40 pm

Push harder for the Crusades to totally wipe out Islam in order to avoid the three way split we have when it comes to major religions thus giving us a better chance for peace.

Either that or stop Africa and the Middle East from gaining their independence from being European colonies so they could actually advance at something approaching the rate that the rest of world thus saving millions of lives in their "revolutions" and the countless warlords and clan chieftains. and slowly but surely raising the populations where they could one day actually support new more advanced forms of government ie Democracy or forming a Republic without dissolving into civil war at the drop of a hat.
" All that is complex is not useful , all of that is useful is simple. "
~ Mikhail Kalashnikov Designer of the AK-47~
Co-Owner (25%)\Investor of The International Space Station: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=170518
We are a nation of Mercenaries based on giving as many freedoms to our people as possible and unyielding dedication to preserving the most basic human rights.

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111690
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:43 pm

The Mercenary Peoples wrote:Push harder for the Crusades to totally wipe out Islam in order to avoid the three way split we have when it comes to major religions thus giving us a better chance for peace.

Either that or stop Africa and the Middle East from gaining their independence from being European colonies so they could actually advance at something approaching the rate that the rest of world thus saving millions of lives in their "revolutions" and the countless warlords and clan chieftains. and slowly but surely raising the populations where they could one day actually support new more advanced forms of government ie Democracy or forming a Republic without dissolving into civil war at the drop of a hat.

The crusaders didn't have the numbers or the unity to "totally wipe out Islam," no matter how hard you would push. Also, the Middle East was never colonized the way Africa and the Americas were.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111690
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:46 pm

The first time someone started a fight in an ice hockey game, that person would be dragged off the ice by his teammates and told to stop acting like a prat.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

User avatar
Ensiferum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 922
Founded: Feb 17, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Ensiferum » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The first time someone started a fight in an ice hockey game, that person would be dragged off the ice by his teammates and told to stop acting like a prat.


Why would you do that? Why would you ruin such a wonderful part of the game? 1997, Joe Lewis Arena.

User avatar
Cameroi
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 15788
Founded: Dec 24, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Cameroi » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:49 pm

Death Metal wrote:
The Isles of Berk wrote:Get rid of income tax, in the U.S. and go back to a flat tax on everything.


Why are you wanting to collapse the world economy exactly?


why not? its certainly over rated. the u.s. too. but no, i wouldn't advocate colapsing anything i'd likely be standing under either.
truth isn't what i say. isn't what you say. isn't what anybody says. truth is what is there, when no one is saying anything.

"economic freedom" is "the cake"
=^^=
.../\...

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111690
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:50 pm

Ensiferum wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The first time someone started a fight in an ice hockey game, that person would be dragged off the ice by his teammates and told to stop acting like a prat.


Why would you do that? Why would you ruin such a wonderful part of the game? 1997, Joe Lewis Arena.

I don't know, because it makes the players and the fans look like a bunch of ... makes them look less than mentally acute. Only the NHL allows fighting, no other hockey venues do. You change what you want, I'll change what I want.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

User avatar
Serrland
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11968
Founded: Sep 30, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Serrland » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:53 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ensiferum wrote:
Why would you do that? Why would you ruin such a wonderful part of the game? 1997, Joe Lewis Arena.

I don't know, because it makes the players and the fans look like a bunch of ... makes them look less than mentally acute. Only the NHL allows fighting, no other hockey venues do. You change what you want, I'll change what I want.


Plenny of fights in the AHL, too, sadly. Takes away from the sport, to be honest. It's one thing to have an enforcer on the team who can get a bit rough when the situation calls for it - but it's another thing entirely to feel the need to throw a few punches every so often to keep the "fans" engaged.

User avatar
Eliasonia
Minister
 
Posts: 2144
Founded: Oct 15, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Eliasonia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:54 pm

Make the dodo fly.
Because lolz.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
Political Test

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111690
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:56 pm

Eliasonia wrote:Make the dodo fly.
Because lolz.

Why stop there? Give them razor-sharp beaks, huge claws and a taste for the flesh of men who have been at sea for a year or so.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

User avatar
Krazakistan
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5230
Founded: May 01, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Krazakistan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:59 pm

Make the Treaty of Versailles not be as harsh as it was on Germany.
Secularism, restricted immigration policy, against affirmative action, voter ID laws, gun rights, democracy, free-market capitalism, egalitarianism, nationalism, and lastly, Rhodesia > Zimbabwe

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: 6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.56
"On the other hand, and let's face it, there's always another hand, unless you're a Saudi Arabian shoplifter of course, hurt feelings can be quite traumatic. I've heard that it can take seconds, sometimes even minutes, to get over it" ~ Pat Condell

"Communism works only in heaven, where they don't need it, and in hell, where they've already got it." ~ Ronald Reagan

"Communism was a mistake" ~ (((((((((Karl Marx)))))))))
CANT STUMP THE TRUMP

User avatar
Samuraikoku
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31947
Founded: May 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Samuraikoku » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:The first time someone started a fight in an ice hockey game, that person would be dragged off the ice by his teammates and told to stop acting like a prat.


I remember the only reason for me getting NHL 08 back in the day was to see about the fight phenomenon. :p

User avatar
Eliasonia
Minister
 
Posts: 2144
Founded: Oct 15, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Eliasonia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:05 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:Make the dodo fly.
Because lolz.

Why stop there? Give them razor-sharp beaks, huge claws and a taste for the flesh of men who have been at sea for a year or so.

Yes yes... breed a group of super Dodo's.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
Political Test

User avatar
Farnhamia
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 111690
Founded: Jun 20, 2006
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:06 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Why stop there? Give them razor-sharp beaks, huge claws and a taste for the flesh of men who have been at sea for a year or so.

Yes yes... breed a group of super Dodo's.

You have to think big.
Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
This is the eighth line. If your signature is longer, it's too long.

User avatar
Death Metal
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13542
Founded: Dec 22, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Death Metal » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:12 pm

Cameroi wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Why are you wanting to collapse the world economy exactly?


why not? its certainly over rated. the u.s. too. but no, i wouldn't advocate colapsing anything i'd likely be standing under either.


Well, a flat tax means a taxpayer who is paying the average rate gets his rate up by about 700 dollars a year, even moreso for those under the average. The spending habits of 30-50% of the population evaporates overnight, small businesses will erode, then comes the unemployment...

Directly tanking the US economy, but as we've seen in the last decade the US economy is so vital on the world stage that this effects everyone's economy.
Only here when I'm VERY VERY VERY bored now.
(Trump is Reagan 2.0: A nationalistic bimbo who will ruin America.)
Death Metal: A nation founded on the most powerful force in the world: METAL! \m/
A non-idealist centre-leftist

Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

User avatar
Anachronous Rex
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6312
Founded: Mar 14, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Anachronous Rex » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:13 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:Yes yes... breed a group of super Dodo's.

You have to think big.

Why not just turn the island into Jurassic Park?
My humor is like church wine: dry and tasteless.
If you are not sure if I am being serious, assume that I am not.

Summer is coming...

User avatar
Death Metal
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13542
Founded: Dec 22, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Death Metal » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:15 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You have to think big.

Why not just turn the island into Jurassic Park?


Because life finds a way.
Only here when I'm VERY VERY VERY bored now.
(Trump is Reagan 2.0: A nationalistic bimbo who will ruin America.)
Death Metal: A nation founded on the most powerful force in the world: METAL! \m/
A non-idealist centre-leftist

Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Acts238, Ayris, El Lazaro, EuroStralia, Le Car, Nilokeras, Orcuo, Rusticus I Damianus, Senkaku, TheKeyToJoy, Theyra, Torrocca, Xi Jinping Thought

Advertisement

Remove ads