If you could change history

[Dakini]

Considering that World War I set the stage for World War II, it's a bit hard to say how the second one would have unfolded with a very short first war. It might not have actually even happened. A lot of the financial problems in Germany were due to being forced to pay for damages. Fewer damages means fewer debts which means a better financial state. A Germany in such conditions might not have elected Hitler and the whole war could have been averted.

Granted, the war in Asia still would have happened.

You know you could prevent all of that without erasing America.

I wouldn't actually think to erase the US. I'd think that if the US revolution failed, it would have eventually become its own country and would probably be part of the Commonwealth. It might be called something else, but meh.

If you think about it, the US civil war wouldn't have happened as the US would have stopped having slavery when the UK did (and perhaps the US would not own much of the South since this was purchased from the French). The war of 1812 wouldn't have happened in the Americas either, which would have changed a lot about how North America is divided currently.

-Make the communist revolution in Russia fail. (No USSR no Cold War.)

Unless Russia just decided that they wanted to be total badasses anyway. It would not be a capitalism versus communism thing, but it would be a world superpower thing (unless you prevent the development of atomic weaponry).

-Have the art school accept hitler. (Instead of being one of the most hated people in the world he could've been a successful artist. I've seen his art, and its pretty good. Plus no nazi germany, no world war 2. Although a war against Japan may have happened.)

Germany would have started World War II anyway if World War I went as it did. It might not have been Hitler in charge, but it might have been someone with a similar ideology or just plain old someone who wanted to take over Europe without a holocaust (which would make things in the Middle East much calmer).
By the time World War II was started in Europe, Japan was already invading China. If they went the whole "we're going to take over the Pacific" route in an alternate history then yes, they would have ended up at war with western powers as well.

[Dakini]

Considering that World War I set the stage for World War II, it's a bit hard to say how the second one would have unfolded with a very short first war. It might not have actually even happened. A lot of the financial problems in Germany were due to being forced to pay for damages. Fewer damages means fewer debts which means a better financial state. A Germany in such conditions might not have elected Hitler and the whole war could have been averted.

Granted, the war in Asia still would have happened.

Long Live the Weimar Government then?

Who knows, really?

[Fintanland]

Who knows, really?

Anything is possible from there. A lack of a total collapse at the end of WWI would have probably resulted in the German Empire continuing to exist. While it was less democratic than the UK, that's where it would have ended up eventually, probably, as a parliamentary monarchy with a figurehead monarch. The only questions are: How, and how fast?

[Conscentia]

Who knows, really?

Anything is possible from there. A lack of a total collapse at the end of WWI would have probably resulted in the German Empire continuing to exist. While it was less democratic than the UK, that's where it would have ended up eventually, probably, as a parliamentary monarchy with a figurehead monarch. The only questions are: How, and how fast?

There may not have been a total collapse, but there'd still be huge problems most likely. The Kaiser wouldn't be a popular guy.

[Fintanland]

There may not have been a total collapse, but there'd still be huge problems most likely. The Kaiser wouldn't be a popular guy.

Possibly. However, without the famine at the end of the war and the returning demoralised soldiers and sailors, it could have been possible for him to weather this crisis. Parliamentary democrats could have wrested some influence from him in the process, especially if they managed to blame the war on him.

[St Davids Luna Territory]

FREE WALES

I would without a doubt, go back to the 1960's join the FWA and blow up the royal Family to create a free Wales!!!

WHO IS WITH ME?

[Fintanland]

FREE WALES

I would without a doubt, go back to the 1960's join the FWA and blow up the royal Family to create a free Wales!!!

WHO IS WITH ME?

How does blowing up the royal family free Wales, though?

[Great Nepal]

Go back to Dehradun in 28 October 1814, with shitton of modern guns. Inform the captain Balbhadra Kunwar that British will attack within matter of days and he should set up lots of water reserves. Then equip 600 garrision with guns, grab pop corn and watch the fun... let the games begin.
After massacre, take weapons to Kathmandu and hand it over to King Rajendra Bikram Shah and become his right hand man. Once Britain is ousted from Indian subcontinent, plot with Balbhadra Kunwar, Bhimsen Thapa and Amar Singh Thapa to overthrow current king and name Amar Singh as emperor, Bhimsen Thapa as King and Balbhadra Kunwar as prime minister. I will be senior advisor to all of them, have large property and live long and happy life.

Will it be better for me? Yes.
Will it be better for Nepal? Hell yea.
Will it be better for the world? I dont know.

[Fintanland]

Take out Reginald Dyer, replace him with someone less psychotic.

No Jallianwala Bagh Massacre, no Crawling Order, everyone goes home happy. Except of course for that assclown Dyer, who goes home in a box. Can't make everyone happy.

[Cameroi]

there would never have been a roman empire. going even further back, aggressiveness would never have come to be romanticized. agriculture and the wheel, and the water wheel would all have happened of course, and villages to care for the sick and injured. but curiosity would never have been repressed by blind faith. and faith, when it came along, would have promoted art and literacy, without straitjacketing them with doctrinal narrowness of thought. there would not have been a militant greek empire to defeat the minoens. instead the celtic and minoen worlds would have come to be linked by a network of helioteletypes and steam railways. ancient glass workers would have developed microetching, which in combination with the discovery that spices of dissimilar metals inserted into citrus fruit could produce and electrical current would have lead to much of the manor of sophisticated cleverness in has taken us a renasaunse and economics with its own self defeating self consupmtion, to overcome milinea fanatically repressed development.

contact with the western hemisphere would thus not have been one of military confrontation. the civilizations of western hemisphere cultures would have not been repressed and abolished.
it would have been too different a world for all the "great" wars we know of to have ever happened, nor even the incentives and conditions that lead to them.

[Conscentia]

Go back to Dehradun in 28 October 1814, with shitton of modern guns. Inform the captain Balbhadra Kunwar that British will attack within matter of days and he should set up lots of water reserves. Then equip 600 garrision with guns, grab pop corn and watch the fun... let the games begin.
After massacre, take weapons to Kathmandu and hand it over to King Rajendra Bikram Shah and become his right hand man. Once Britain is ousted from Indian subcontinent, plot with Balbhadra Kunwar, Bhimsen Thapa and Amar Singh Thapa to overthrow current king and name Amar Singh as emperor, Bhimsen Thapa as King and Balbhadra Kunwar as prime minister. I will be senior advisor to all of them, have large property and live long and happy life.

Will it be better for me? Yes.
Will it be better for Nepal? Hell yea.
Will it be better for the world? I dont know.

What makes you think everything will turn out they way you want?
You're 1 random weirdo with a bunch of weird looking guns.
Where would you even get the guns?

[Great Nepal]

Go back to Dehradun in 28 October 1814, with shitton of modern guns. Inform the captain Balbhadra Kunwar that British will attack within matter of days and he should set up lots of water reserves. Then equip 600 garrision with guns, grab pop corn and watch the fun... let the games begin.
After massacre, take weapons to Kathmandu and hand it over to King Rajendra Bikram Shah and become his right hand man. Once Britain is ousted from Indian subcontinent, plot with Balbhadra Kunwar, Bhimsen Thapa and Amar Singh Thapa to overthrow current king and name Amar Singh as emperor, Bhimsen Thapa as King and Balbhadra Kunwar as prime minister. I will be senior advisor to all of them, have large property and live long and happy life.

Will it be better for me? Yes.
Will it be better for Nepal? Hell yea.
Will it be better for the world? I dont know.

What makes you think everything will turn out they way you want?
You're 1 random weirdo with a bunch of weird looking guns.
Where would you even get the guns?

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

[Conscentia]

What makes you think everything will turn out they way you want?
You're 1 random weirdo with a bunch of weird looking guns.
Where would you even get the guns?

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

What if he kills you & just takes the guns? (You know, when you're not expecting it or when you've already distributed the weapons.)

[Dakini]

What makes you think everything will turn out they way you want?
You're 1 random weirdo with a bunch of weird looking guns.
Where would you even get the guns?

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

What's to stop him from taking all the guns from you when you sleep?

[Great Nepal]

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

What if he kills you & just takes the guns?

That would require fundamental sift in his personality however I suppose that is possibility. If that happens (which is unlikely) that would be less desirable but acceptable result. Nepal wins the war.

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

What's to stop him from taking all the guns from you when you sleep?

I am giving him the guns, and showing how to shoot it. It would be illogical to steal them. But if he does, Nepal still wins however my life wont be as good as I hoped.
Acceptable outcome.

[Conscentia]

What if he kills you & just takes the guns?

That would require fundamental sift in his personality however I suppose that is possibility. If that happens (which is unlikely) that would be less desirable but acceptable result. Nepal wins the war.

I disagree with thy use of a time machine.

[The Imperium of Mann]

What makes you think everything will turn out they way you want?
You're 1 random weirdo with a bunch of weird looking guns.
Where would you even get the guns?

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

You need to be a US citizen to purchase a gun.

[Conscentia]

I am coming to US this June, specifically Texas so getting guns wont be problem... especially since I dont have intention of coming back to this time.
As for random weirdo with weird looking guns, demonstrate the power of the gun. Garrison had nothing but knifes and couple of ancient guns.
After I shoot something with modern gun and tell Balbhadra Kunwar about stuff no one at that time would know, he would accept the statement and guns. Even if he assigns couple of men to keep a close eye.

You need to be a US citizen to [legally] purchase a gun.

*fixed.

[ImperialistSalvia]

-No Holocaust
-Germany still looked like this + Elsaß
-Open the Palestine region to Jews to move (similar to after WWII) but not force the people living there to move. Keep the area under British control to smooth the relations between the two groups
-No Indian removal act
-No East-West Germany split
-Instead of WWII, there'd be the Pacific War (US and France v Japan); pretty much be the Pacific front with more troops but end the same way.
-Cold War be between US, France, Portugal, and British Commonwealth v USSR, Communist China, and various states which had USSR-backed Communist "revolutions"
-Yugoslavia be decentralised republic that doesn't collapse in '92 (with Gorica and Trieste)
-No Liberian Civil War
-Philippines US state, 1971
-No 9/11
-Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh autonomous republics of India
-No apartheid; South Africa-Boer split after independence from GB
-Africans make use of resources in the late '80s, and become stable by '07
-European borders don't really change much after The Great War, apart from the velvet divorce, perhaps

Yes, I'd change that much

[Great Nepal]

That would require fundamental sift in his personality however I suppose that is possibility. If that happens (which is unlikely) that would be less desirable but acceptable result. Nepal wins the war.

I disagree with thy use of a time machine.

Why? Who says I have to come back to this time when it will be better back then provided I dont get killed first.

You need to be a US citizen to purchase a gun.

Nineteenth century south Asia might be slightly out of twenty first century united states attorney's jurisdiction...

[Conscentia]

I disagree with thy use of a time machine.

Why? Who says I have to come back to this time when it will be better back then provided I dont get killed first.

Thy staying in the 19th century wasn't my objection.

[Calorax]

FREE WALES

I would without a doubt, go back to the 1960's join the FWA and blow up the royal Family to create a free Wales!!!

WHO IS WITH ME?

Yeah, sure, Welsh independence, shit would be hilarious

[Visdicere]

Just read this entire thing. Such an awesome thread.

It would be interesting to see what would've happened had Nixon won the '60 election. Perhaps not a better end result, but interesting nonetheless.

[Cameroi]

-No Holocaust
-Germany still looked like this + Elsaß
-Open the Palestine region to Jews to move (similar to after WWII) but not force the people living there to move. Keep the area under British control to smooth the relations between the two groups
-No Indian removal act
-No East-West Germany split
-Instead of WWII, there'd be the Pacific War (US and France v Japan); pretty much be the Pacific front with more troops but end the same way.
-Cold War be between US, France, Portugal, and British Commonwealth v USSR, Communist China, and various states which had USSR-backed Communist "revolutions"
-Yugoslavia be decentralised republic that doesn't collapse in '92 (with Gorica and Trieste)
-No Liberian Civil War
-Philippines US state, 1971
-No 9/11
-Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh autonomous republics of India
-No apartheid; South Africa-Boer split after independence from GB
-Africans make use of resources in the late '80s, and become stable by '07
-European borders don't really change much after The Great War, apart from the velvet divorce, perhaps

Yes, I'd change that much

eliminating there ever having been a roman empire, WOULD change all of that much and more. not only would it change all of that, but we'd be almost a thousand years ahead of where we are now, because there wouldn't have been an innovation repressing middle ages.

there might or might not even have ever been such a place as germany, nor the america we know today either, neither of which would very much matter, that much being that much different.

[Lietuvos]

Central Powers Victorious...pure and simple.