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Freiheit Reich
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:47 am

Divair wrote:
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McCain and Romney are dangerous but Obama is likely worse. Read the book Post-American Presidency to learn why Obama is dangerous:

http://books.simonandschuster.com/Post- ... 1439189900

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Stopped reading. Stop being so anti-America.


The book is worth a read. The book often uses quotes from Obama's own biography to show why Obama is misguided and potentially dangerous. The book also focuses heavily on Obama's abandonment of Israel. He even said that he supports a Palestine state! The Arabs invade Israel in 1967, Israel takes lands away as a punishment and Obama wants Israel to hand them back. This shows Obama is likely hiding his true religion.
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Postby New Nebraskan Republic » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:48 am

I would make all of North America look like Nebraska.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:48 am

Alyekra wrote:Yes, I believe that every single human being should be entitled to their liberty.


Only when it affects the liberty of others. Stop being anti-American.

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:48 am

Remove Josef Stalin from history.
Or/And Remove George Washington from history.
Or/And Remove Ayn Rand from history.
Or/And Remove Jesus of Nazareth from history.
Or/And Prevent the burning of the Library of Alexandria.
Or/And Save Archimedes from the Roman soldier who killed him.
Or/And Ensure that the Antikythera mechanism was never lost.
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:49 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:The book is worth a read. The book often uses quotes from Obama's own biography to show why Obama is misguided and potentially dangerous.

He has been running the country for over four years. The US is doing better than ever. Stop being so paranoid and delusional.

Freiheit Reich wrote:The book also focuses heavily on Obama's abandonment of Israel. He even said that he supports a Palestine state! The Arabs invade Israel in 1967, Israel takes lands away as a punishment and Obama wants Israel to hand them back. This shows Obama is likely hiding his true religion.

"Abandonment". Fucking lol. Just stop talking about a subject you know nothing about. We invaded them in 67, and we gave them most of their land back once we realized it's a fucking stupid idea to hold on to it. And I support a Palestinian state, am I a Muslim? Get fucking real.

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Postby Alyekra » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:52 am

Divair wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:The book is worth a read. The book often uses quotes from Obama's own biography to show why Obama is misguided and potentially dangerous.

He has been running the country for over four years. The US is doing better than ever. Stop being so paranoid and delusional.


And that's why the unemployment is so low, right?

Freiheit Reich wrote:The book also focuses heavily on Obama's abandonment of Israel. He even said that he supports a Palestine state! The Arabs invade Israel in 1967, Israel takes lands away as a punishment and Obama wants Israel to hand them back. This shows Obama is likely hiding his true religion.

"Abandonment". Fucking lol. Just stop talking about a subject you know nothing about. We invaded them in 67, and we gave them most of their land back once we realized it's a fucking stupid idea to hold on to it. And I support a Palestinian state, am I a Muslim? Get fucking real.


I can't imagine why. Seriously.
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Postby The Vyavelian Islands » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:52 am

I would have stopped the 100 years war from happening by finding a compromise to the small territory quarrel that started it, France and England would have kept their good relations, and England would have eventually fused with France, their conqueror, making the biggest power of all Europe and eventually the world when the colonization begins, their quarrels beign dismissed and the sum of the two attacking spanish colonies. It would have made the greatest empire ever, and would have had chances to unite the whole world behind only one banner even before year 2000.
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Postby Alyekra » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:53 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Alyekra wrote:Yes, I believe that every single human being should be entitled to their liberty.


Only when it affects the liberty of others. Stop being anti-American.


Murder is hardly a right.
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:53 am

Alyekra wrote:And that's why the unemployment is so low, right?

Yes. Been going down for quite a few years now, lad. One of the countries who recovered the fastest, actually.


Alyekra wrote:I can't imagine why. Seriously.

I don't care about their internal issues.
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Postby Alyekra » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 am

Divair wrote:
Alyekra wrote:I can't imagine why. Seriously.

I don't care about their internal issues.
What?
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Postby Divair » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 am

Alyekra wrote:
Divair wrote:I don't care about their internal issues.
What?

Shall I repeat my statement? I don't care about their internal issues.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:59 am

Take Truman out of VP, and put in someone who wouldn't have dropped the nukes.

Make the CSA win by giving them tanks, and have the CSA Take the entire USA. Then help them outlaw slavery, slowly and more effectively than the North would have.

Give the White Army in the Russian Civil War a bunch of AK47s.
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Postby Calorax » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:01 am

Assassinate William the Bastard, overthrow Michael Foot as head of Labour and stop Thatcher permanently bruising the country, stop the 100 Years War, invent stuff before other people.
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Postby The Imperium of Mann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:02 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:Take Truman out of VP, and put in someone who wouldn't have dropped the nukes.

No nukes=Long bloody invasion, heavy military, and civilian casualties. If you look at the previous island invasions in the pacfic you'd see the Japanese civilians commited mass suicide.

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Postby Conscentia » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:03 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:Take Truman out of VP, and put in someone who wouldn't have dropped the nukes.

Make the CSA win by giving them tanks, and have the CSA Take the entire USA. Then help them outlaw slavery, slowly and more effectively than the North would have.

Give the White Army in the Russian Civil War a bunch of AK47s.

Some libertarian you are. :blink:
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Postby Dakini » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:06 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:Make the CSA win by giving them tanks, and have the CSA Take the entire USA. Then help them outlaw slavery, slowly and more effectively than the North would have.

Hahahahhaha


The same CSA that wrote slavery into their constitution?!

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Postby Dakini » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:07 am

The Imperium of Mann wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Take Truman out of VP, and put in someone who wouldn't have dropped the nukes.

No nukes=Long bloody invasion, heavy military, and civilian casualties. If you look at the previous island invasions in the pacfic you'd see the Japanese civilians commited mass suicide.

...a lot of that is because the military encouraged the civilians to do this.

Imperial Japan was fucking insane.

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Postby The Imperium of Mann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:09 am

Dakini wrote:
The Imperium of Mann wrote:No nukes=Long bloody invasion, heavy military, and civilian casualties. If you look at the previous island invasions in the pacfic you'd see the Japanese civilians commited mass suicide.

...a lot of that is because the military encouraged the civilians to do this.

Imperial Japan was fucking insane.

Indeed. They portrayed the Americans as ruthless animals which resulted in thousands of suicides.

GG Japan.

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Postby Kalckalinkd » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:14 am

Have Peru and Bolivia unite and create a south American empire.

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Postby Untaroicht » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:15 am

I would stop Rasputin from ever being liked by the Romanov dynasty. without him the czar might not have had such terrible policies that would result in the soviet union coming to power, resulting in untold millions deaths.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:16 am

Dakini wrote:
The Imperium of Mann wrote:No nukes=Long bloody invasion, heavy military, and civilian casualties. If you look at the previous island invasions in the pacfic you'd see the Japanese civilians commited mass suicide.

...a lot of that is because the military encouraged the civilians to do this.

Imperial Japan was fucking insane.

There was a slim chance they may have surrendered with out an invasion, the soviets did an ungodly amount of damage to the Japanese military in Manchuria and the islands north of the mainland, and they were more than prepared for an invasion. From what ive seen in documentaries this was one of the main reasons they contemplated surrender to the allies, and as far as i know they tried to surrender but the allies would not accept anything short of an unconditional surrender, maybe with someone else as president they may have agreed to a compromise treaty of sorts. But in the end, they were fucking insane (government wise) so it might not have happened.
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Postby Suicune » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:18 am

Try and prevent religion from happening. It may have had some positive aspects, but I believe the negative aspects far outweigh them.
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Postby Untaroicht » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:19 am

Divair wrote:The US is doing better than ever.


AHAHHAHAHAHAH

No.

I would argue the best age in american history was the 1950's.
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Postby Strolingrad » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:20 am

-Kill Stalin , have Trotsky replace Lenin after his death
-Kill Ayn Rand
-Tell Reagan to stick with his acting career and stay out of politics
-Prevent the rise of Christianity

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Postby The Imperium of Mann » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Dakini wrote:...a lot of that is because the military encouraged the civilians to do this.

Imperial Japan was fucking insane.

There was a slim chance they may have surrendered with out an invasion, the soviets did an ungodly amount of damage to the Japanese military in Manchuria and the islands north of the mainland, and they were more than prepared for an invasion. From what ive seen in documentaries this was one of the main reasons they contemplated surrender to the allies, and as far as i know they tried to surrender but the allies would not accept anything short of an unconditional surrender, maybe with someone else as president they may have agreed to a compromise treaty of sorts. But in the end, they were fucking insane (government wise) so it might not have happened.

They were not going to surrender fast enough. The soviets were as their back door, and the US didn't want Japan to be divided like Germany. The use of the nukes may have been evil but it is nothing compared to Japan's many war crimes.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese ... #section_3

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