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If you could change history

Postby Ocarith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:59 pm

Everytime you look through the history books, as vast as they may be you always stumble across something that makes you think, "If only that could've changed."

For instance, some stumble across the Crusades and wish they could erase those wars from history. Why? It would save lives and prevent nearly 5 wars that cost tons of money and blood. Because of the crusades Europe was plagued with prejudice against others, Jews and Muslims. But as I was going over the Crusades today and I realized something. The Crusades, much like WWII, really stimulated European Economy. For instance, before the Crusades the Byzantine Empire and the Islamic Empire pretty much controlled the economy. However, the Crusades brought a large amount of trade, technology, and money into Europe. The War caused money to circulate and did for Europer what WWII did for the USA.

The questions is this, if you could change something in history what would it be and why? But to make it interesting, and since everything in history would have an effect on later history, how would this change effect the future? (Try to be realistic on the second question)

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:01 pm

I'd have Henry Wallace get FDR's VP spot in 1944.
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Postby Ocarith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:03 pm

Frisivisia wrote:I'd have Henry Wallace get FDR's VP spot in 1944.


Ah to prevent Harry Truman from being President, and the Nuclear bomb being dropped. But if the bomb wasn't dropped, have you considered how the Asian War would've lasted? How many men who die getting on the Island? And as I remember the Soviets were prepared to help invade. Would they have ended up with a slice of Japan? Would we have seen a North and South Japan?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:03 pm

Make Tesla more famous and well-known than Edison. Because JUSTICE.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Ocarith wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I'd have Henry Wallace get FDR's VP spot in 1944.


Ah to prevent Harry Truman from being President, and the Nuclear bomb being dropper. But if the bomb wasn't dropped, have you considered how the Asian War would've lasted? How many men who die getting on the Island? And as I remember the Soviets were prepared to help invade. Would they have ended up with a slice of Japan? Would we have seen a North and South Japan?

Wallace would have let them surrender while keeping their emperor's divinity. No ground war, no nukes, just let them continue to believe their damn emperor is a god.
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Postby Fintanland » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:05 pm

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Postby Calenhardon » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Stop that asshole Gavrilo Princip from ruining everthing.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:09 pm

Prevent the telegraph, telephone, and photograph from being invented.

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Postby Trollgaard » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:09 pm

I change history so that Seleukos I Nikator was not assassinated, and lived several more years so he could consolidate Macedonia into his empire in the east. This would hopefully allow the Seleucids to crush the pesky Ptolemaic empire, and defeat Rome.

Everything would be different...

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Postby TaQud » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:09 pm

let Hitler get accepted into the art academy that rejected him and make sure he never rose to power to become leader.
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Postby AETEN II » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:10 pm

Prevent Rome from falling, or, have Christianity stamped out by the Romans to avoid the dark ages and all the damn persecution.
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Postby Trollgaard » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:11 pm

AETEN II wrote:Prevent Rome from falling, or, have Christianity stamped out by the Romans to avoid the dark ages and all the damn persecution.


Alternatively, have the dark ages continue indefinitely...

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:11 pm

AETEN II wrote:Prevent Rome from falling, or, have Christianity stamped out by the Romans to avoid the dark ages and all the damn persecution.

Have Holy Mary Mother of God die in a freak house-keeping accident at the age of nine.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:11 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Make Tesla more famous and well-known than Edison. Because JUSTICE.

You're just jealous that Edison was a better businessman.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:12 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Make Tesla more famous and well-known than Edison. Because JUSTICE.

You're just jealous that Edison was a better businessman.

It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:13 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're just jealous that Edison was a better businessman.

It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

I don't see how that would have helped. Edison would have died a respected Commissar of Electrical Innovation and Tesla would have died in a state mental hospital.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:14 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You're just jealous that Edison was a better businessman.

It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

Oh my goddddddd.

This post. It killed me. "You cheated and lied to me! I'm becoming a communist!"

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:15 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

Oh my goddddddd.

This post. It killed me. "You cheated and lied to me! I'm becoming a communist!"

The NSG suicide note.

What are you talking about?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:15 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

I don't see how that would have helped. Edison would have died a respected Commissar of Electrical Innovation and Tesla would have died in a state mental hospital.

Thanks for ruining my dreams, Farn. I really appreciate it. ;)
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Ceannairceach wrote:It seriously makes me consider communism. *sigh*

Oh my goddddddd.

This post. It killed me. "You cheated and lied to me! I'm becoming a communist!"

The NSG suicide note.

:p

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:17 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Oh my goddddddd.

This post. It killed me. "You cheated and lied to me! I'm becoming a communist!"

The NSG suicide note.

What are you talking about?

You know you're pretty bad-off if you have to resort to Communism.

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Postby Johto and Kanto » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:17 pm

I would have Japan never have an economic crash, and slowly , peacefully, take over the Earth.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:18 pm

Assassinate Marx before he can write any of his literature.

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Postby Johto and Kanto » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:19 pm

Luveria wrote:Assassinate Marx before he can write any of his literature.

What?! But the Marx Brothers were delightful comedians.
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Postby ShirayukiM » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:19 pm

If I could change history, I would prevent the Persians from outflanking the Greeks at Thermopylae. :P
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