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Applying Schrodinger's Cat to the Courtroom

Postby Almagarde » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:11 am

The above model suggests that the observer decides the fate of the Observed as it collapses from superposition. The Cat dead or Alive is determined by the Viewer...


By that system, the Murderer of an individual can be found by putting any six people in a room with a revlover with one bullet. As each shoots themselves in turn the one who dies was killed by the survivors.

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Postby Allanea » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:16 am

I'm not sure agreeing to participate in a Russian roulette game qualifies as a murder.
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Postby Non Aligned States » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 am

Almagarde wrote:By that system, the Murderer of an individual can be found by putting any six people in a room with a revlover with one bullet. As each shoots themselves in turn the one who dies was killed by the survivors.


Your system is inconsistent. Do you mean a murderer of an individual being one of those six, a murderer being put among the six, or shooting one of the six and declaring the dead guy a murderer?

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Postby Almagarde » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:26 am

Allanea wrote:I'm not sure agreeing to participate in a Russian roulette game qualifies as a murder.



If the Observer kills the Cat...the people who didnt die killed the victim.

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Postby Neo Art » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:29 am

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:44 am

Almagarde wrote:The above model suggests that the observer decides the fate of the Observed as it collapses from superposition. The Cat dead or Alive is determined by the Viewer...


No, it doesn't. Sorry, play again.

What ONE INTERPRETATION of the thought experiment says is that the cat is neither dead nor alive before the box is opened and, once it is opened, the cat randomly (not based on the observer's decision at all) collapses to a state of either dead or alive. Also, any "observer" works. The observer can be almost anything at all and needn't have any consciousness. Because of the fact that the observer needn't have consciousness and because of the fact that a cat is a multi-particle system, the objective collapse interpretation makes far more sense than a more naive version of Copenhagen.
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Postby West Failure » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:48 am

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:57 am

apply it to defense.
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Postby Czardas » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:16 am

"And how does the defendant plead?"
"Not guilty. The gun was neither loaded nor unloaded until my client fired it, so he had no way of knowing it would harm the deceased."
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:18 am

Czardas wrote:"And how does the defendant plead?"
"Not guilty. The gun was neither loaded nor unloaded until my client fired it, so he had no way of knowing it would harm the deceased."

JUDGE: replace the juror who's head just assploded.
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