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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

The Progressive Society wrote:
Sabara wrote:How is America backwards if some people don't support gay marriage..?


Not all of America is backwards, just those gun toting rednecks that occupy 35 percent or more of our nation. Trust me, I live in Arizona everyone owns a gun, and calls gay people offensive terms. My neighbor has a pickup truck with an American flag spray painted on it, and a gun strapped to the top of the roof. Is that backwards?


why would you spray paint the American flag on your car?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

The Progressive Society wrote:
Sabara wrote:How is America backwards if some people don't support gay marriage..?


Not all of America is backwards, just those gun toting rednecks that occupy 35 percent or more of our nation. Trust me, I live in Arizona everyone owns a gun, and calls gay people offensive terms. My neighbor has a pickup truck with an American flag spray painted on it, and a gun strapped to the top of the roof. Is that backwards?

Nope. That's called patriotism with style.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

The Progressive Society wrote:
Sabara wrote:How is America backwards if some people don't support gay marriage..?


Not all of America is backwards, just those gun toting rednecks that occupy 35 percent or more of our nation. Trust me, I live in Arizona everyone owns a gun, and calls gay people offensive terms. My neighbor has a pickup truck with an American flag spray painted on it, and a gun strapped to the top of the roof. Is that backwards?

Why would you strap a gun to the roof?
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Postby Corvus Metallum » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

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Like I said, not going to start a war over this, leave that to the other people who actually want one

Like I said, I'm not asking this, but people will ask this. So let's discuss this.

Nicely Fox News.


Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

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Postby The Progressive Society » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:46 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Progressive Society wrote:
Not all of America is backwards, just those gun toting rednecks that occupy 35 percent or more of our nation. Trust me, I live in Arizona everyone owns a gun, and calls gay people offensive terms. My neighbor has a pickup truck with an American flag spray painted on it, and a gun strapped to the top of the roof. Is that backwards?


why would you spray paint the American flag on your car?


Not my car, my neighbors. I don't know why though, I guess to show their patriotism?
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Postby Divair » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

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Divair wrote:Sounds cool. Make sure to film it.

Rule 34 already exists.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Believe it or not, it's a popular viewpoint outside our own borders.


Inside our borders too.

Yeah.

Not that I agree, just stating a fact.
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Corvus Metallum wrote:Not going to start a post war, but consider this;

If gay marriage was a moral practice, then why has it been considered taboo for centuries? Why are we changing our standards now if they haven't changed much for much of human history?

1) not in every culture; see Two-Spirit people

2) because humanity progresses. we've already moved beyond other forms of unjust, illogical discrimination like racism and the most abominable forms of misogyny where women were literally the man's property, even though they were considered good and moral at their time, homophobia is on the way out now too
Sabara wrote:How is America backwards if some people don't support gay marriage..?

a significant percentage of people opposing gay marriage shows certain societal backwardness just as any support for barbaric, illogical, unjust discrimination like racism. thus, America (a country I greatly admire), that is generally more homophobic than other developed countries is, sadly and unfortunately, shows greater backwardness than desired
Corvus Metallum wrote:Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

she was bisexual then, not lesbian. also why did it make the divorce worse for you?
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Divair wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Rule 34 already exists.

Miranda, EDI, Jack, Benezia four way.

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Postby Fintanland » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Corvus Metallum wrote:Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

So, basically, "I do not like it". Not much of a reason. I do not like rap, and I do not try to keep or get it banned. Well, once.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:47 pm

Corvus Metallum wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Like I said, I'm not asking this, but people will ask this. So let's discuss this.

Nicely Fox News.


Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

Your experiences are not universal. You may need to relearn that fact.

Divair wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Rule 34 already exists.

Miranda, EDI, Jack, Benezia four way.

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What? It's true.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Progressive Society wrote:
Not all of America is backwards, just those gun toting rednecks that occupy 35 percent or more of our nation. Trust me, I live in Arizona everyone owns a gun, and calls gay people offensive terms. My neighbor has a pickup truck with an American flag spray painted on it, and a gun strapped to the top of the roof. Is that backwards?

Why would you strap a gun to the roof?

Rednecks so stupid they've never even heard of a gun rack.

And I thought those rural Virginians were ignorant.
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Postby Sabara » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Believe it or not, it's a popular viewpoint outside our own borders.


Inside our borders too.


Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.
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Postby Divair » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Corvus Metallum wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Like I said, I'm not asking this, but people will ask this. So let's discuss this.

Nicely Fox News.


Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

And your views continue to creep us out.

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Postby Arkiasis » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Still 42% too low.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:48 pm

Sabara wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Inside our borders too.


Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

Which has what to do with gay marriage?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:49 pm

Sabara wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Inside our borders too.


Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

What do bright lightbulbs have to do with this?
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Postby Divair » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:49 pm

Sabara wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Inside our borders too.


Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

When did Europe go socialist? Did I miss the revolution? Or are you another Yank who thinks that the Euro crisis (which is not caused by the European governments, most of whom are center-right anyway) was caused by DAH EBIL COMMIES?
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:49 pm

Sabara wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Inside our borders too.


Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

An economic mess! Yay!
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Postby Fintanland » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:49 pm

Sabara wrote:Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

Europe is not socialist, and America is losing its status as the leading power. Also, relevance?
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Postby Sabara » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

What do bright lightbulbs have to do with this?


I'm saying we're not backwards.

Also, what's wrong with patriotism? >_>
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Okay then.

Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess? America has sort of erm, LED other nations of the World since WWI.

Which has what to do with gay marriage?

If you get gay married you are riding in a car with Socialist Europe.
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Postby Corvus Metallum » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Divair wrote:
Corvus Metallum wrote:
Honestly, I don't like gay marriage at all. My mom was lesbian after she and my dad divorced. It sucked more than words could describe. It still creeps me out.

And your views continue to creep us out.


I don't care, just wanted to give my opinion.

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:50 pm

Sabara wrote:
Should we switch to Socialist Europe and deteriorate into an economic mess?

Europe is not socialist. Please don't use terms unless you know what they actually are, thank you.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:51 pm

Sabara wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:What do bright lightbulbs have to do with this?


I'm saying we're not backwards.

Also, what's wrong with patriotism? >_>

Nothing wrong with it. What does your statement have to do with the topic at hand?
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