A life wasted on religion?

[Divair]

Possible that you are.

But at the same time, likely that I'm not.

It's not "likely".

[Kemalist]

I don't really think if she would expect your respect, she will burn you man, that's not a joke

Then I have no moral reason to follow said God. I'm in the right either way, even if I suffer for it.

Dying for your honor would be ok, but endless pain is not something that could be stood

[Genivaria]

It just reminded me of a story of Ali, often quoted in such debates. I'm an Atheist but couldn't help myself to share this;

One day Ali meets an irreligious while going to praying, he is told that he is wasting his time that he could spend better. Then Ali answers; "Let's suppose for once that the god does not exist, I would not lose anything. But what if it exists, what would you lose ?"

Depends on the morality of the god.

[The Realm of God]

Perhaps, but is a life devoted to art useless? If I find there is no God, I would have still enjoyed the moments of my life that I spent in rituals as old as the hills, it's beautiful and a part of history.

So no I don't feel my life is wasted, some deist (Reconstructionist) Jewish sects still follow the Law out of solidarity with their people.

[Genivaria]

All life is wasted, which is why I plan on becoming a Lich.

[Conserative Morality]

Dying for your honor would be ok, but endless pain is not something that could be stood

The human mind can adjust to anything eventually.

[Samuraikoku]

All life is wasted, which is why I plan on becoming a Lich.

Paladin. I'd have to fight you.

[Genivaria]

Then I have no moral reason to follow said God. I'm in the right either way, even if I suffer for it.

Dying for your honor would be ok, but endless pain is not something that could be stood

I call jailbreak. I say we go all Salvation War on them bitches.

[Seperates]

Then I have no moral reason to follow said God. I'm in the right either way, even if I suffer for it.

Dying for your honor would be ok, but endless pain is not something that could be stood

No, it would just splinter and crack to protect itself.

[Gothmogs]

A life wasted reading all these religion threads?

I don't think my life would be wasted if god didn't exist. I think religion can be fun.

[Seperates]

A life wasted reading all these religion threads?

I don't think my life would be wasted if god didn't exist. I think religion can be fun.

So is crack.

[Cosara]

But at the same time, likely that I'm not.

It's not "likely".

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

[Gothmogs]

A life wasted reading all these religion threads?

I don't think my life would be wasted if god didn't exist. I think religion can be fun.

So is crack.

Whatever suits you.

[Angleter]

Silly question, given that if there is no afterlife I'd have no chance to ruminate on my past life. Let's say, instead, that I were to convert to atheism on my deathbed. Anyway, I'm fairly sure that I'd have far more important and pressing regrets than anything caused by my religious beliefs. Hell, I - and the vast majority of Christians - have probably done most of the hedonistic sorts of things that are banned.

[Desperate Measures]

It's not "likely".

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

What's more likely? Stuff happens or freakin' eternal Gods? I know for a fact that stuff happens. LIke, stuff just happened. Just now.

[Seperates]

It's not "likely".

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

Not out of nothing, out of a singularity.

Well, we don't actually have bony fish that close in our liniage, as they evolved later down the line. It's likely that we are more closely related genetically to primordial versions of amfibians than to modern day fish. And fish are not anywhere in the liniage of insects, so kindly take back that "fish evolved into every animal" comment.

And where did your God come from then?

[Seperates]

So is crack.

Whatever suits you.

Hey, at least you're honest.

[Conserative Morality]

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

Theism: A God was not created out of nothing, but rather existed forever in both directions of time. Despite being all-powerful and all-knowing, it was outwitted by a snake and a woman, and later murdered everyone for doing what he made them to do. A series of complex rules were created for this physical universe by said God, but contradict all aspects of the stories given by God, presumably because God is a dick who likes lying.

[Desperate Measures]

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

Not out of nothing, out of a singularity.

Well, we don't actually have bony fish that close in our liniage, as they evolved later down the line. It's likely that we are more closely related genetically to primordial versions of amfibians than to modern day fish. And fish are not anywhere in the liniage of insects, so kindly take back that "fish evolved into every animal" comment.

And where did your God come from then?

I think he goes by an always has been type of thing. Which is maddening to think about.

[Seperates]

Not out of nothing, out of a singularity.

Well, we don't actually have bony fish that close in our liniage, as they evolved later down the line. It's likely that we are more closely related genetically to primordial versions of amfibians than to modern day fish. And fish are not anywhere in the liniage of insects, so kindly take back that "fish evolved into every animal" comment.

And where did your God come from then?

I think he goes by an always has been type of thing. Which is maddening to think about.

S/He's a hit and runner...

[Desperate Measures]

I think he goes by an always has been type of thing. Which is maddening to think about.

S/He's a hit and runner...

Don't worry. I do my best debating when the opponent has flown off.

[Seperates]

S/He's a hit and runner...

Don't worry. I do my best debating when the opponent has flown off.

Bah, but then I can't learn, nor can I teach. So it becomes pointless.

[Cosara]

In my opinion, it is likely that A God exists. Weather it's the God I worship is unknowable. Look at these senarios and tell me what seems more likely

Atheism: Everything exploded out of nothing. Just by chance, everything is so fine tuned that if anything was even the slightest bit different in the big bang, it would be impossible for everything to exist. Rocks smashed together and formed planets. Gases formed atmospheres around these rocks. Water happened to appear on this rock. Over millions of years, single cell organisms formed in these waters and these cells evolved into fish. These fish went onto dry ground and evolved so that they could survive there. These fish evolved into every animal, then apes evolved into humans.

Theism Eternal god(s) created everything.

Not out of nothing, out of a singularity.

Well, we don't actually have bony fish that close in our liniage, as they evolved later down the line. It's likely that we are more closely related genetically to primordial versions of amfibians than to modern day fish. And fish are not anywhere in the liniage of insects, so kindly take back that "fish evolved into every animal" comment.

And where did your God come from then?

Did you not read the word "Eternal". That means that God has been there forever. This is far more likely then the Big Bang Theory. In fact, the big bang is scientificly impossible. The singularity had to come from something (Because everything has to have a maker) and that creator of the singularity would have had to have had something create it, and that would continue for all eternity, making the Big Bang Impossible because you'd never find one thing that started the chain that would eventually cause the singularity which caused the big bang. Asking where God comes from is the equivalent of saying that we have no universe, because my above logic breaks the scientific explimation, so there must be an eternal creator who exists outside of time and space and is not subject to the laws of nature, therefor making God exempt from needing a creator.

[Desperate Measures]

Not out of nothing, out of a singularity.

Well, we don't actually have bony fish that close in our liniage, as they evolved later down the line. It's likely that we are more closely related genetically to primordial versions of amfibians than to modern day fish. And fish are not anywhere in the liniage of insects, so kindly take back that "fish evolved into every animal" comment.

And where did your God come from then?

Did you not read the word "Eternal". That means that God has been there forever. This is far more likely then the Big Bang Theory. In fact, the big bang is scientificly impossible. The singularity had to come from something (Because everything has to have a maker) and that creator of the singularity would have had to have had something create it, and that would continue for all eternity, making the Big Bang Impossible because you'd never find one thing that started the chain that would eventually cause the singularity which caused the big bang. Asking where God comes from is the equivalent of saying that we have no universe, because my above logic breaks the scientific explimation, so there must be an eternal creator who exists outside of time and space and is not subject to the laws of nature, therefor making God exempt from needing a creator.

"But dude! My logic is backed my magic! Can't argue with magic!"

Seriously?

[Sociobiology]

My question goes out to our more religious community however all are free to voice whatever opinion they have on this topic.

My question is, as a supporter of whatever religion you may be no doubt the majority of them require you to impose restriction on yourself or obligate you to partake in certain activities, but have you ever considered that if it were indeed true that you only live once would you feel that you have not lived a life as free and accomplished as you could have done?

Maybe there are times when you as a Muslim wished to partake in alcohol, after all there is some clear craze over it, maybe you as Jew wondered as to the taste of pork or even you as a Christian simply cannot be bothered to attend your regular Sunday service?
These are but examples, the spectrum in which you could have limited your life could be major or minor, so would you feel cheated that you limited yourself for no reason or simply adopt and impartial view?

As an additional question, you think its wise to restrict your own life on something that may not in fact exist, especially if you wished to partake in what you were religiously disallowed?

My beliefs on the issue is simply live life the way you want to live it, as long as you aren't causing harm to others why restrict your own life in any single way when you could actually be wasting the one and only chance you have at living?

“Live a good life.
-If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by.
-If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them.
-If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”


― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations