I found a GOP politician dumber than Palin.

[The Archregimancy]

As an academic specialist in [the archaeology of] British colonialism, I am amused by Mr. Hutchins' claim that Windsor castle was "Headquarters of the British Government during the time of: SIR WALTER RALEIGH", largely because:

A) There was no 'British' government until the 1707 Act of Union, and even accepting that there were joint monarchs of England and Scotland from 1603, most of Raleigh's career was under the very English Elizabeth I.

B) While Elizabeth I did flee London for Windsor to avoid an outbreak of the plague in the mid 16th century, Richmond Palace (destroyed during the Commonwealth) was the usual HQ of the English government in Raleigh's time.

B) Just why is a failed colonialist eventually executed for treason so important anyway?


As a university lecturer, I staunchly object to the punctuation and capitalisation of:

America is a Great Nation, due to our Diversity; but ONLY WHEN, This Diversity is VOLUNTARY

However, as hilarious as Mr. Hutchins is, I would caution people against assuming that his lack of basic punctuation skills and slightly loopy grasp of history is somehow representative of Republicans as a whole, or illustrates that Republican voters are uniquely stupid. I happen to profoundly disagree with Mr. Hutchins on most major issues, but I wouldn't make the assumption that his rather unfortunate grasp of history somehow allows us to demonise Republicans as a whole. It's worth remembering that the right can, if it chooses, find some unfortunate remarks by figures on the left. Hutchins may be an extreme case, but each side accusing each other of being uniquely stupid isn't going to do much to end the polarisation in American politics that some in NSG occasionally bemoan.

We might all do well to remember that it is possible to be against affirmative action and immigration without automatically being a racist; it is possible to be in favour of state-supported health-care and greater regulation of banking without automatically being a communist. Casually throwing around insults isn't going to help raise the tone of debate.


Edit: More to the point, we shouldn't assume that Hutchins is representative of Republicans, because he's opposed by the NC Republican Party. From Hutchins' own web site (emphasis added):

Dear Mr. Hutchins,
We live in a great country and I have never known a day that I didn’t feel blessed to live in our nation and proud to be an American. I am also proud to be a Republican because I believe our message and our common values is America’s best hope to secure a future that is prosperous and free for all our people.
I am an active and vocal opponent of many of the policies of our President and Democrat Leadership in Congress. I am proud of that too.

As Chairman of the North Carolina Republican Party I was not proud, nor edified, by the contents of your campaign website. Frankly, I find certain elements – in particular the direct comparison of President Obama and his family to Sanford and Son and other similar representations to be reprehensible and far outside the spirit and meaning of Republican values. Let me be clear, you may hold your own opinions and state them freely. That is your right as an American. But displaying the North Carolina Republican Party Seal on your web-page is not your right. It does not belong to you and, in my opinion as Chairman, I do not want our party associated with some of your views. Please immediately remove our seal from your site and any campaign materials.

As State Party Chairman I generally avoid getting involved in primaries. But if you file for an elective office as a Republican, I will make an exception in your case.

Thomas Fetzer
Chairman, North Carolina Republican Executive Committee

[Non Aligned States]

Edit: More to the point, we shouldn't assume that Hutchins is representative of Republicans, because he's opposed by the NC Republican Party. From Hutchins' own web site (emphasis added):

Of course not. But with the likes of certain Americans on this board, who shall remain unnamed, wholeheartedly throwing support for Hutchins and hoping that he wins, we can be assured that there is a reality challenged, and likely noisy, demographic that would probably attempt to vote for him.

[Non Aligned States]

All and sundry, CUT IT OUT, NOW!<snip>
Interested in seeing a reasonable discussion by adults of the actual topic, without the name-calling or the concentration on individual posters.

Silly LG. Don't you know that making race based decisions illegal is a race based decision? It's opposite land in the psychotic dictatorship of New Mitanni, where racism is good, political murder is lauded, non far right extremists are Uruk Hai and the toast always lands buttered side up.

Missed that bit, did you, Non-Aligned States? Warned.

Psychotic dictatorship refers one of the many possible in game descriptions assigned to nations. Not him personally. The rest of the content is a factual recounting of his opinions on this (and the previous), board. Hardly flaming.

[Allanea]

So you found a random guy off the Internet and he turned out to be dumb?

An amazing discovery.

[Dyakovo]

Here's my opinion, Democrats are Stupid as well as Republicans!

Maybe, but they probably double check their websites for spelling.

LOL! I would of have laughed if Obama ever mispelled his name Obonga.

fixed

And yes that would be amusing.

[Dyakovo]

I look forward to seeing him win in 2010

And btw: Sarah Palin is smarter than the majority of the high school and college leftie babies who mock her on this board.

Ignoring your trolling of liberals and anyone who sees Palin for the attention whore she is,

And Robin makes another appearance with the "whore" slander.

I just want to get this straight: You agree with the below?

The ONLY REASON, the so-called 1964 Civil Rights Act passed, was due the fact, Lyndon B. JOHNSON, had many political debts owed to him, in 1964.

=> During 1964, if one did NOT repay their political debts, when they were called due, such a politician's political career was over.

=> Lyndon B. JOHNSON called all his debts in 1964.

To DEFEAT OBAMA-NATION, we must take a close look at all of the "Social Engineering" contained in the so called 1964 Civil Rights Act, and take legal steps to remove this "Social Engineering" contained in the so-called 1964 Civil Rights Act.

"Social Engineering," includes FORCED DIVERSITY, FORCED RACIAL INTEGRATION, Affirmative Action Quotas Based on Race, and all Privileges Based on Race, which are influenced by the so-called 1964 Civil Rights Act to the U.S. Constitution

To the extent the 1964 Civil Rights Act conflicts with the Constitution, it should be revised.

Affirmative action: unacceptable

Forced "integration": unacceptable

Forced "diversity: unacceptable

Any race-based decisions: unacceptable

Have we ever had NM so openly admit racism before?

Yes, its a fairly common occurrence.

[Dyakovo]

Great. And it took her six years. Because we want someone who took six years to get a four year degree running this country.

Better than a community organizer.

Hardly, at least the community organizer's not so ignorant that he thought/thinks that Africa is country...

[Allanea]

Great. And it took her six years. Because we want someone who took six years to get a four year degree running this country.

Better than a community organizer.

Hardly, at least the community organizer's not so ignorant that he thought/thinks that Africa is country...

You know, let's pretend I brought up the 57-state incident.
Let's pretend you responded with some excuse as to how Obama was tired/worried/had a massive zit on his face that day and was distracted.

Let's just say that with any politician you can pick out incidents where he said some silly shit. They did it with Clinton, and Gore, and Bush, and Biden, and fuck knows what else. Realistically, none of these people are actually dumb.

[Ordo Mallus]

obama a right leaning centrist? lol

[Senestrum]

Turns out the american political system is massively skewed to the right compared to the rest of the world. I find it both sad and hilarious that almost no americans realize that.

[Yootopia]

As an academic specialist in [the archaeology of] British colonialism, I am amused by Mr. Hutchins' claim that Windsor castle was "Headquarters of the British Government during the time of: SIR WALTER RALEIGH"

I would also contend that the British empire didn't fall in 1946, but came basically with MacMillan.

[Allanea]

Turns out the american political system is massively skewed to the right compared to the rest of the world. I find it both sad and hilarious that almost no americans realize that.

That's a subjective definition.

[Goath]

Turns out the american political system is massively skewed to the right compared to the rest of the world. I find it both sad and hilarious that almost no americans realize that.

That's a subjective definition.

I don't understand that- just like I don't understand the people who keep saying "socialism" has a subjective definition (it doesn't). The Democratic Party, if placed in the UK would be a center-right party. That's not subjective, that's reality.

[The chrisman union]

Dumber than Palin? Impossible. That's like being colder than absolute zero.

[Yootopia]

I don't understand the people who keep saying "socialism" has a subjective definition (it doesn't).

I dunno, there's quite a lot of difference between for example Fabian socialism and what Marx reckoned socialism entailed.

[Goath]

I don't understand the people who keep saying "socialism" has a subjective definition (it doesn't).

I dunno, there's quite a lot of difference between for example Fabian socialism and what Marx reckoned socialism entailed.

But socialism has a single common definition- government ownership of the economic organs of a nation. That's socialism, not what the Democrats are advocating.

This fellow, and any other person that claims the Democrats in Congress are socialists, are living in a fantasy world.

[Yootopia]

I don't understand the people who keep saying "socialism" has a subjective definition (it doesn't).

I dunno, there's quite a lot of difference between for example Fabian socialism and what Marx reckoned socialism entailed.

But socialism has a single common definition- government ownership of the economic organs of a nation.

Err not really. I would define myself as a bit of a socialist but think that the government should only be in charge of managing utilities, healthcare, transport etc., and should have private industry taxed to raise revenue and the like.

[Kalnisov]

I love how his message board is for, and I quote, "TRUE REPUBLICANS ONLY" and will not let you post without him looking it over first.

What I'm getting from that is that he's basically telling people how very little he cares about outside opinions and people who disagree with him.

[HairyHares]

Holy lord...that dude's WAAAAY out there.

As to the birthers and the teabaggers...they think they've started a revolution, but all they're doing is making it harder and harder for the conservatives to get into office. Extremists never get elected by telling people they're extremists.

I dunno, seem to work for Hitler.

Perhaps an exception that proves the rule. I was over-broad when I said extremists "never" get elected by telling people they're extremists. I should have said that, normally, when people find out a person running for office has an extremist point of view they do whatever they can to vote for the other person- Lyndon Johnson vs. Barry Goldwater is a good example.

Nope good lie telling, did not let folks know what his extreme views were till he got in position to push them .

[Goath]

I don't understand the people who keep saying "socialism" has a subjective definition (it doesn't).

I dunno, there's quite a lot of difference between for example Fabian socialism and what Marx reckoned socialism entailed.

But socialism has a single common definition- government ownership of the economic organs of a nation.

Err not really. I would define myself as a bit of a socialist but think that the government should only be in charge of managing utilities, healthcare, transport etc., and should have private industry taxed to raise revenue and the like.

Well, then, you're a "bit" of a socialist, but you aren't a socialist. Socialism is collective ownership of industry, not social welfare programs. I'd call you a social democrat, not a socialist, and political scientists would agree with me.

we can't make up our own definitions for words, folks.

[Yootopia]

we can't make up our own definitions for words, folks.

Then how did Socialism come to be defined so concretely -_-

[DaWoad]

obama a right leaning centrist? lol

in the american political spectrum? no. In the canadian political spectrum? yep. Its kinda a matter of perspective.

[Rolling squid]

we can't make up our own definitions for words, folks.

Then how did Socialism come to be defined so concretely -_-

The same way all words become defined. Society agrees on a definition for a set of sounds. Going against that definition is rather impossible.

[Goath]

we can't make up our own definitions for words, folks.

Then how did Socialism come to be defined so concretely -_-

The same way all words become defined. Society agrees on a definition for a set of sounds. Going against that definition is rather impossible.

Exactly.

[Teccor]

An idiot, eh? Lemme rifle through here. I'll add pieces to this post as I want to comment on them.

"America is a Great Nation, due to our Diversity; but ONLY WHEN, This Diversity is VOLUNTARY."

Hmm... Makes perfect sense.

Supports Israel, TEA part memeber, NRA member, supports veterans, Reagan Republican

Hmm. No qualms here. Sounds legit.

Supports FOX NEWS

Awesome!

U.S. Marine Corps, 1996-2000

He served in the Military, and Desert Storm no less! He'll actually know something about the military, because he served.

This POISON TREE, is the "Social Engineering" located within the so-called 1964 Civil Rights Act, to the U.S. Constitution.

My views, exactly! Ever since I read about this bill in my Government class, I was against Social Engineering. Affirmative Action is moronic, in my opnion.

END gay marriage

FULL STOP. I'm pro-gay marriage. I'm straight but I believe that who you spend your life with should be your choice. Outside of incestual relationships or underage relationships (30-year-old guy with a 14-year-old girl. Blech), the government should keep out of your heart's business.

Okay, recap. Everything he's saying makes perfect sense, except the 'end gay marriage' thing, but that's just the standard Republican standing.

Besides the single typo, and colorful nature, of his page, is there anything inherently wrong with his views?

I think the liberal bashers and flamers are being a bit immature about all this. Plus the thread name is outright flamebait.