Same-Sex Marriage: Point of View

[Ifreann]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

There's a lot more to legal marriage than that in most of the world, and gay people can have children.

[Ceannairceach]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

What does it matter why they want to get married? They deserve the right. Marriage does not have to be about children, or even love. It is about whatever the couple wants it to be.

[Grave_n_idle]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

So sterile people shouldn't be allowed to get married?

What about people that don't love each other - are their marriages valid?

[Des-Bal]

Marriage is NOT a power given by god to the church of whichever branch you happen to belong to. Marriage is a LEGAL bond between two people. If you don't have a SECULAR reason to deny LEGAL rights to people then any SECULAR state should tell you to get bent. There is no reason beyond homophobia and blatant violations of the separation of church and state to deny gays the right to marry.

[Divair]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

So everyone who has no plans of having children should be banned from getting married?


I mean, let's ignore the fact that marriage has literally thousands of legal effects, but that's just downright silly.

[Rocopurr]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

You can adopt kids, y'know. And with that logic does that mean straight couples that don't want kids shouldn't get married?

[San Leggera]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

You can adopt kids, y'know. And with that logic does that mean straight couples that don't want kids shouldn't get married?

Or people who're infertile, as well.

[Vaktrania]

It doesn't matter. They love each other, that's the end of that.

[Ifreann]

It doesn't matter. They love each other, that's the end of that.

It matters a very great deal.

[Czechanada]

Marriage isn't only a Christian thing. The process is secular since the state issues marriage licenses. The separate service that a church provides is simply pomp and ceremony. It can be done with a rabbi, imam, or Humanist Officiant.

Therefore, you cannot solely legislate on your particular religious views.

As a criminologist, the law should allow everyone to follow their own morality as much as possible without infringing on others.

[Desperate Measures]

Marriage isn't only a Christian thing. The process is secular since the state issues marriage licenses.

Therefore, you cannot solely legislate on your particular religious views.

I got married in a heterosexual relationship that had nothing to do with any church. Feel free to use me as a source.

[Flagsia]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

What does it matter why they want to get married? They deserve the right. Marriage does not have to be about children, or even love. It is about whatever the couple wants it to be.

So they don't have any reason to marry each other . They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon . Like always people want to bend the rules at their own convenience. Why couldn't they just live with it . Like playing a game , they need to fulfill the condition to win not to change the condition so that they can win .

[Ifreann]

What does it matter why they want to get married? They deserve the right. Marriage does not have to be about children, or even love. It is about whatever the couple wants it to be.

So they don't have any reason to marry each other .

They have 1,138 reasons in the US.

[Desperate Measures]

What does it matter why they want to get married? They deserve the right. Marriage does not have to be about children, or even love. It is about whatever the couple wants it to be.

So they don't have any reason to marry each other . They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon . Like always people want to bend the rules at their own convenience. Why couldn't they just live with it . Like playing a game , they need to fulfill the condition to win not to change the condition so that they can win .

It's saying one couple shouldn't have more rights than another couple. It seems fair to me.

[Des-Bal]

So they don't have any reason to marry each other . They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon . Like always people want to bend the rules at their own convenience. Why couldn't they just live with it . Like playing a game , they need to fulfill the condition to win not to change the condition so that they can win .

There are legal rights involved in marriage. Legal Marriage has nothing to do with religion.

[Enadail]

So they don't have any reason to marry each other .

Sure they do, the same reasons a heterosexual couple want to get married. The point is it doesn't matter.

They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon .

Most people do want equal rights and very few people enjoy being looked down on. I'm not sure why you're putting these as bad things.

Like always people want to bend the rules at their own convenience.

What rules are being bent, and how is this a convenience?

Why couldn't they just live with it .

Why can't you live with them being able to marry? Could you live without the right to marry, or with society viewing you with disgust?

Like playing a game , they need to fulfill the condition to win not to change the condition so that they can win .

Except in games, people often come up with new strategies to win the game, to reach the condition. But in your analogy, what is the win condition? Making an arbitrary, vague analogy doesn't make your point any more convincing.

[Twilliamson]

What does it matter why they want to get married? They deserve the right. Marriage does not have to be about children, or even love. It is about whatever the couple wants it to be.

So they don't have any reason to marry each other . They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon . Like always people want to bend the rules at their own convenience. Why couldn't they just live with it . Like playing a game , they need to fulfill the condition to win not to change the condition so that they can win .

so wait i minute not be discriminated against isn't a good reason.

[Awiera]

This is stupid why do gay people want to get married .To have children or to show your love .
You can't have children and you do not need marriage to show your love for each other .

True. But not all 'normal' married couple are fortunate enough to have their own child and the whole point of marriage is about to show your love. I doubt gays who are not attracted to one another would settle down together.

But trying seeing it from this point of view: While some gay couples may choose to have a child, there are some who chooses to adopt because they want to.
Because they are ready.
Because they are at the financial state that allows them to.
And I see them doing a better job at it compared to 'normal married couples'.

Some straight married couple got through accidental pregnancy; at the point when they're not financially ready or committed for another child or for what ever reason and chooses to keep the baby because, ah well. This sort of poor family planning is one of the many reason why some marriages fail.

[Flagsia]

So they don't have any reason to marry each other .

They have 1,138 reasons in the US.

I did not know that . But you can just marry some other women to get the benefit but love the one you love . As Ceannairceach said marriage does not have to be about love .

[Enadail]

They have 1,138 reasons in the US.

I did not know that . But you can just marry some other women to get the benefit but love the one you love . As Ceannairceach said marriage does not have to be about love .

Or... you could marry the person you love. Because that other woman may have someone else they want to marry. Or may not want to marry. Or you may want to marry for love, as so many other people do.

[Flagsia]

So they don't have any reason to marry each other .

Sure they do, the same reasons a heterosexual couple want to get married. The point is it doesn't matter.

They just want their right. They don't want to be looked down upon .

Most people do want equal rights and very few people enjoy being looked down on. I'm not sure why you're putting these as bad things.

I mean that they can do something else so they don't be looked down upon rather that doing something that make people hate them . They have to learn to adapt go things . Why do other people have to change and they just stay the same . Why ?

[Divair]

Sure they do, the same reasons a heterosexual couple want to get married. The point is it doesn't matter.



Most people do want equal rights and very few people enjoy being looked down on. I'm not sure why you're putting these as bad things.

I mean that they can do something else so they don't be looked down upon rather that doing something that make people hate them . They have to learn to adapt go things . Why do other people have to change and they just stay the same . Why ?

Who is forcing you to change? Are you going to be forced into a marriage with a homosexual or something?

[Individuality-ness]

Sure they do, the same reasons a heterosexual couple want to get married. The point is it doesn't matter.



Most people do want equal rights and very few people enjoy being looked down on. I'm not sure why you're putting these as bad things.

I mean that they can do something else so they don't be looked down upon rather that doing something that make people hate them . They have to learn to adapt go things . Why do other people have to change and they just stay the same . Why ?

Because it's a fundamental human right? Or do you think marriage is only between a white man and a white woman who is completely dominated by him?

[Desperate Measures]

Sure they do, the same reasons a heterosexual couple want to get married. The point is it doesn't matter.



Most people do want equal rights and very few people enjoy being looked down on. I'm not sure why you're putting these as bad things.

I mean that they can do something else so they don't be looked down upon rather that doing something that make people hate them . They have to learn to adapt go things . Why do other people have to change and they just stay the same . Why ?

You don't have to do a thing but step out of the way.

[Ifreann]

They have 1,138 reasons in the US.

I did not know that . But you can just marry some other women to get the benefit but love the one you love .

No you can't. It doesn't work like that. The rights and responsibilities relate to the married couple, or to one partner with regards to the other. The right to make medical decisions if your spouse is unconscious, for example, or the right to have your spouse receive your pension if you die.

As Ceannairceach said marriage does not have to be about love .

I'm well aware.