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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:33 pm

Weimaridom wrote:The war between bias and the truth is one that has just erupted recently and is growing. It is the cause of so many ignorant people and the cause of so many blind arguments. It just makes me rage.

sometimes truth is biased depending on how it's told. And seeing as any number of people can state the truth it's almost impossible to find the 'truth' hence why i think there is no such thing as 'truth' in a pure form or any ultimate truth.

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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:44 pm

greed and death wrote:well if those are my choices I side with the corporations.
I will try and make your deaths painless and quick.


this.

Homos should just go back to Tanzania

edit: also I encourage Rome vs. Carthage debate
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Postby Spredronia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:45 pm

No, the most dramatic and important war in human history is against those people who blatantly disregard the environment. I'm not a hippie but I'd like to see a deer that looks exactly the same as when I see it now thirty years from now, please.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:51 pm

Call to power wrote:
greed and death wrote:well if those are my choices I side with the corporations.
I will try and make your deaths painless and quick.


this.

Homos should just go back to Tanzania

edit: also I encourage Rome vs. Carthage debate

But Rome won anyway? how can the person arguing for Carthage beat the other dude?

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Postby HippyCamp » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:53 pm

Atheists VS. Theists while Agnostics look on, helpless.

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HippyCamp wrote:Atheists VS. Theists while Agnostics look on, helpless.

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Postby Weimaridom » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:56 pm

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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:56 pm

Spredronia wrote:No, the most dramatic and important war in human history is against those people who blatantly disregard the environment. I'm not a hippie but I'd like to see a deer that looks exactly the same as when I see it now thirty years from now, please.


who are these people? I thought Captain Planet had already sorted them out

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:But Rome won anyway? how can the person arguing for Carthage beat the other dude?


bollocks Hannibal has fucking Elephants E-LE-PHANTS! Rome has Italians who couldn't even handle naked Celts

Weimaridom wrote:I guess Barack Obama being president really isn't the truth... :roll:


well he isn't my president
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:57 pm

Weimaridom wrote:I guess Barack Obama being president really isn't the truth... :roll:

I knew it!

it's true somewhere, and it's not true somewhere else, depends on what you want to call 'the truth'.

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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:58 pm

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bollocks Hannibal has fucking Elephants E-LE-PHANTS! Rome has Italians who couldn't even handle naked Celts

you speak as if he's still alive.
besides i see your elephant and raise you a trumpet. the sound can agitate elephants if you have enough of them. i'm serious it happened.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:02 pm

Call to power wrote:bollocks Hannibal has fucking Elephants E-LE-PHANTS! Rome has Italians who couldn't even handle naked Celts

They couldn't? I guess the little part where Rome marched it's way up to the Danube, conquering and civilizing on the way, never happened. :meh:
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:04 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Call to power wrote:bollocks Hannibal has fucking Elephants E-LE-PHANTS! Rome has Italians who couldn't even handle naked Celts

They couldn't? I guess the little part where Rome marched it's way up to the Danube, conquering and civilizing on the way, never happened. :meh:

i think you're racist against Celts.
they would have totally wiped Rome off it's feet if they could be organised.

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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:04 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you speak as if he's still alive.


he is didn't you see Hannibal?

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:besides i see your elephant and raise you a trumpet. the sound can agitate elephants if you have enough of them. i'm serious it happened.


I see your trumpet and raise you Romes allies having enough of Romes shit
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:07 pm

Cameroi wrote:is being studiously ignored by corporate media.

it is the war between corporate greed, and the future of the human speices,
and possibly the entire web of life on planet earth.

marxism isn't the answer, and fascism is just a more extreme form of corporatocracy.
but corporate capitalism IS the problem. or should i say the motivation behind the majority of the diversity of them. especially the handful of most key specific ones.


I'm impressed by the relative clarity of your post, and the lack of mention of narrow gauge rail.

I'm for regulated capitalism personally. Basic safe guards on natural environments to ensure we don't lose it all, I'm personally not convinced about global warming, or at the least, that we have any chance of stopping it, as far as I can tell, its far too late and any serious attempt would be disastrous at best. I'd say the corporate welfare that is being engaged in by the US government is disappointing to say the least, although I'm not sure thats what you meant by corporate capitalism.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:07 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:i think you're racist against Celts.

Not at all. Maybe a little culturist against Celts.
they would have totally wiped Rome off it's feet if they could be organised.

IF. But that's the problem, isn't it? Whereas Rome's Legions were organized, unified, yet flexible groups and formations, the Celts were formidable warriors. Individual warriors, that is. And no matter how kickass of a dueler you are, when met by a wall of shields with men just WAITING for you to raise your arm to strike at them behind it, you don't have much of a chance.

And going into battle naked isn't exactly the best of strategies either.
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Call to power wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you speak as if he's still alive.


he is didn't you see Hannibal?

I see your trumpet and raise you Romes allies having enough of Romes shit

no :( was it anygood?


Uh okay i see Romes allies having enough of Romes shit and i raise you one of the largest armed forces at the time capable of marching huge distances with a serious punch in battle.

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Call to power wrote:I see your trumpet and raise you Romes allies having enough of Romes shit

I raise you Rome kicking their asses and telling them to get back in line.
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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:They couldn't? I guess the little part where Rome marched it's way up to the Danube, conquering and civilizing on the way, never happened. :meh:


hardly I mean whats Caesar gonna do? The Celts could decapitate the Roman leadership with a few strobe lights
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:12 pm

Call to power wrote:hardly I mean whats Caesar gonna do? The Celts could decapitate the Roman leadership with a few strobe lights

I guess the part about Roman Generals usually being pretty competent (If Power Hungry) was entirely false too.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:12 pm

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Mad hatters in jeans wrote:i think you're racist against Celts.

Not at all. Maybe a little culturist against Celts.
they would have totally wiped Rome off it's feet if they could be organised.

IF. But that's the problem, isn't it? Whereas Rome's Legions were organized, unified, yet flexible groups and formations, the Celts were formidable warriors. Individual warriors, that is. And no matter how kickass of a dueler you are, when met by a wall of shields with men just WAITING for you to raise your arm to strike at them behind it, you don't have much of a chance.

And going into battle naked isn't exactly the best of strategies either.

you so are, i see you all the time "the celts did this", "the celts did that wrong", "the celts caused tunguska". I've seen you i know what you're capable of.


yeah but nakedness scares the shit out of noob soldiers if the naked guy is also screaming his head off and high on some 'herb'. Besides Roman armies will succumb to guerrilla tactics like any other army, enough scorch and burn tactics would reduce their morale. i mean would you want to fight in a desolate land with no food and tainted water supplies?
with a decent leader even a rabble can take out a crack team of soldiers. ambushes for example. what was that legion that got destroyed in Germany Varrus's legion or something?

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Postby Call to power » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:15 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:no :( was it anygood?


its a little boring at the start but gets better

I wouldn't put any effort to see it but its worth watching if its on :/

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Uh okay i see Romes allies having enough of Romes shit and i raise you one of the largest armed forces at the time capable of marching huge distances with a serious punch in battle.


I raise you Hannibal destroying a Roman army and Rome only being saved by a lack of siege equipment

that dudes got this shit in the bag
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:17 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:you so are, i see you all the time "the celts did this", "the celts did that wrong", "the celts caused tunguska". I've seen you i know what you're capable of.

The Celts DID cause Tungsta! I have irrefutable proof referencing ancient Druidic rituals! :p
yeah but nakedness scares the shit out of noob soldiers if the naked guy is also screaming his head off and high on some 'herb'. Besides Roman armies will succumb to guerrilla tactics like any other army, enough scorch and burn tactics would reduce their morale. i mean would you want to fight in a desolate land with no food and tainted water supplies?
with a decent leader even a rabble can take out a crack team of soldiers. ambushes for example. what was that legion that got destroyed in Germany Varrus's legion or something?

Well, let's go over this. First off, the Romans used Guerilla tactics against an opponent using scorch and burn tactics in Italy. Second off, Varus was an idiot who somehow got control of three legions, then taxed the Germans to revolt before sending his troops into terrain they were neither equipped nor trained for, and trusted a German Prince who absolutely despised him.
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:17 pm

Call to power wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:no :( was it anygood?


its a little boring at the start but gets better

I wouldn't put any effort to see it but its worth watching if its on :/


I raise you Hannibal destroying a Roman army and Rome only being saved by a lack of siege equipment

that dudes got this shit in the bag

have you seen Mongul? it's okay.

I raise you Zombie Roman soldiers killing Hannibal in his sleep.

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Call to power wrote:I raise you Hannibal destroying a Roman army and Rome only being saved by a lack of siege equipment

that dudes got this shit in the bag

I raise you Scipio Africanus and Fabian Tactics.
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Mad hatters in jeans wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
Call to power wrote:bollocks Hannibal has fucking Elephants E-LE-PHANTS! Rome has Italians who couldn't even handle naked Celts

They couldn't? I guess the little part where Rome marched it's way up to the Danube, conquering and civilizing on the way, never happened. :meh:

i think you're racist against Celts.
they would have totally wiped Rome off it's feet if they could be organised.



Not really. The Roman legion was simply a superior fighting force than anything the Celts could field.
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