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by F1-Insanity » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:57 pm

by Gelgisith » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:13 pm
F1-Insanity wrote:We could simply unilaterally cancel our national debt and tell creditors to come and contest it on a battlefield. One where we won't fight Harvard/Yale style 'limited war' stuff (McNamara/Rumsfeld).
tunizcha wrote:Religion is an oak tree. It has many, many branches, and it's full of nuts.

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by Californian Mod Haters » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:40 pm

by NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:08 pm
Gelgisith wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:We could simply unilaterally cancel our national debt and tell creditors to come and contest it on a battlefield. One where we won't fight Harvard/Yale style 'limited war' stuff (McNamara/Rumsfeld).
That would work, were it not that most of the US debt isn't to foreign creditors.

You-Gi-Owe wrote:I hate all "spin doctoring". I don't mind honest disagreement and it's possible that people are expressing honest opinions, but spin doctoring is so pervasive, I gotta ask if I suspect it.

by Rolling squid » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:12 pm
Hammurab wrote:An athiest doesn't attend mass, go to confession, or know a lot about catholicism. So basically, an athiest is the same as a catholic.
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.


by Martaz » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:20 pm

by Californian Mod Haters » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:37 pm
Martaz wrote:-cut Foreign Aid....Why USA should help everyone?
-cut Welfare State.....move your ass and get a job..there is not a free lunch
-Get rideof Medicare and medicaid and every dumb socialist program
-Privatize all schools

by Martaz » Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:54 pm
Martaz wrote:Because they need it.
What if their job sucks or they can't have one? Leave them and their families to starve to death?
We're not going back to being a nation of uneducated priks and children working 14 hours a day for a few cents.
Now can we ban this guy?

by Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:13 pm
Californian Mod Haters wrote:How would you solve the national debt?

by NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:19 pm
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Californian Mod Haters wrote:How would you solve the national debt?
I'd roll back tax rates to pre-1980 levels, slash military spending and eliminate unnecessary and redundant federal agencies like the CIA and NSA. I don't see why we need two foreign intelligence agencies with no domestic charter. Time to combine them.
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I hate all "spin doctoring". I don't mind honest disagreement and it's possible that people are expressing honest opinions, but spin doctoring is so pervasive, I gotta ask if I suspect it.

by The White Doe » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:20 pm
Californian Mod Haters wrote:Californian Mod Haters wrote:Now for my opinion:
I'd first cut almost all spending to the military. After that I'd set up a simplified tax code summed up by the following:
There'd be a base income tax of 5% with 5% more per every $100,000 you've got until you reached $900,000. You'd also be taxed 1% more for every $1,000,000,000 you have until you reach $5,000,000,000. Corporate taxes would work under the same system as well since corporations are legal persons. Sales taxes would be raised to 40%. The saving tax would be eliminated. Business taxes would be 5%. All taxes would be handled by the IRS.
How do you like my idea?

by Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:21 pm
NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Californian Mod Haters wrote:How would you solve the national debt?
I'd roll back tax rates to pre-1980 levels, slash military spending and eliminate unnecessary and redundant federal agencies like the CIA and NSA. I don't see why we need two foreign intelligence agencies with no domestic charter. Time to combine them.
My understanding is that the CIA does all the cool stuff like spying and torturing and the NSA is just the governments IT department.


by Non Aligned States » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:43 pm
Martaz wrote:-cut Foreign Aid....Why USA should help everyone?
Martaz wrote:-cut Welfare State.....move your ass and get a job..there is not free lunch
Martaz wrote:-Get ride of Medicare and medicaid and every dumb socialist program
-Privatize all school
win

by Lord Tothe » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:08 pm
"Why is self-control, autonomy, such a threat to authority? Because the person who controls himself, who is his own master, has no need for an authority to be his master. This, then, renders authority unemployed. What is he to do if he cannot control others? To be sure, he could mind his own business. But that is a fatuous answer, for those who are satisfied to mind their own business do not aspire to become authorities." ~ Thomas SzaszThe Empire of Pretantia wrote:[...] TLDR; welcome to the internet. Bicker or GTFO.

by Bormanico » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:31 pm
Union Soviet Socialist wrote:I would more or less replace the entire U.S. Government, turn it into a Communist nation, pull out all military assets from Afganistan, I would make all round tax cuts, I would start building jobs and I would lower the minum Wage to like $2 per hour. I would more or less, kill off most of the Government, Move most military units into reserve, and lower the GDP/c

by Maurepas » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:32 pm
Bormanico wrote:Union Soviet Socialist wrote:I would more or less replace the entire U.S. Government, turn it into a Communist nation, pull out all military assets from Afganistan, I would make all round tax cuts, I would start building jobs and I would lower the minum Wage to like $2 per hour. I would more or less, kill off most of the Government, Move most military units into reserve, and lower the GDP/c
Tax cuts and lower min wage... How is this communism?


by Soratsin » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:35 pm
Maurepas wrote:Bormanico wrote:Union Soviet Socialist wrote:I would more or less replace the entire U.S. Government, turn it into a Communist nation, pull out all military assets from Afganistan, I would make all round tax cuts, I would start building jobs and I would lower the minum Wage to like $2 per hour. I would more or less, kill off most of the Government, Move most military units into reserve, and lower the GDP/c
Tax cuts and lower min wage... How is this communism?
Before being able to gauge that, you might consider defining "communism",

by Bormanico » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:44 pm
Maurepas wrote:Bormanico wrote:Union Soviet Socialist wrote:I would more or less replace the entire U.S. Government, turn it into a Communist nation, pull out all military assets from Afganistan, I would make all round tax cuts, I would start building jobs and I would lower the minum Wage to like $2 per hour. I would more or less, kill off most of the Government, Move most military units into reserve, and lower the GDP/c
Tax cuts and lower min wage... How is this communism?
Before being able to gauge that, you might consider defining "communism",

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by Erich Dahmer » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:06 am
Saiwania wrote:I'd increase taxes significantly on the wealthy who can afford such a hike and raise taxes slightly for everyone except the poorest and drastically cut discretionary spending. If up to me, I'd repeal Medicare part D and raise the retirement age for Social Security from 65 to 75 and any surpluses made would be used to pay down the national debt.

by F1-Insanity » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:44 am
NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ wrote:Gelgisith wrote:F1-Insanity wrote:We could simply unilaterally cancel our national debt and tell creditors to come and contest it on a battlefield. One where we won't fight Harvard/Yale style 'limited war' stuff (McNamara/Rumsfeld).
That would work, were it not that most of the US debt isn't to foreign creditors.
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