The Irish Perception

[Finjaldn]

Viewed by most Americans as very liberal Guinness drinking leprechauns who make whiskey all day and wear four-leafed clovers in your hats and small little green leprechaun suits. Basically the Irish stereotype.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

There are several stereotypes in America for the Irish. Most of them contradict each other.

>Good workers

>Bad workers.

>Drunkards

>Catholics

>Zealous

>Nonreligious

>Good people

> Leprechauns

>Saint Patrick

>Green

>(my personal favorite and the one I believe) Regular people

[Wisconsin9]

I've always wondered if the drinking stereotype is true.

Yeh, but it's true for all the Brits too.
It's a common element of the culture.


COMMON BRITISH WEEKEND:
Work...ehh...bare minimum hardness.
PARTY EXTREME.
go to church and act sobre and bemoan downfall of society.

I see.

[Cerod]

the ability to get very angry

That explains the expulsions and firings....

[The Two Jerseys]

Getting past the violent alcoholics stereotype, I'd say that the Irish in general are pretty much the same as people in other Anglophone countries.
Not really surprising, considering how many people in those countries are descended from Irish immigrants.

[Cerod]

Getting past the violent alcoholics stereotype

I really don't get where this comes from.

[Churchilland]

Getting past the violent alcoholics stereotype

I really don't get where this comes from.

I think it started when there were Irish Navvies building the railways in Britain, seeing as Alcohol was much cheaper and safer than other drinks, they were given alcohol to drink, and it spread from there... also, Guinness does market itself to be very Irish (e.g. the Harp on it's logo)

[Angleter]

I really don't get where this comes from.

I think it started when there were Irish Navvies building the railways in Britain, seeing as Alcohol was much cheaper and safer than other drinks, they were given alcohol to drink, and it spread from there... also, Guinness does market itself to be very Irish (e.g. the Harp on it's logo)

And whiskey. And poitin doesn't help the image either, I'm sure.

[Arglorand]

Out here in Lithuania, we think of you as our distant cousins, because you're, like, totally like us.

You're Catholic. Were invaded and occupied and annexed repeatedly over the course of history. Have a liking for the color green. The likes.

We also think of you as a potential place to go to if - WHEN - we decide that living here sucks.

[Greed and Death]

In American they are viewed as the only whites who can compete with the Asians in standardized testing.

[Ovisterra]

I've never really cared what people think of us, to be honest.

[Ovisterra]

Getting past the violent alcoholics stereotype

I really don't get where this comes from.

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

[Arglorand]

I really don't get where this comes from.

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

That is ANOTHER similarity we Lithuanians have with you guys.

[Cerod]

I really don't get where this comes from.

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

But violent?

[Olwe]

I've always wondered if the drinking stereotype is true.

My mom's side of the family is descended from Scotch-Irish immigrants, and nearly every one of her relatives has had a drinking problem. I hate puking too much to get truly drunk, so I've escaped this by only drinking in moderation, but if my family's any indication the stereotype is true in 85-90% of all cases.

My perception of Irish-Americans is that they're generally good people, but they probably wouldn't fit in with mainland (as in, actually in Ireland... there's probably a better word for it, but don't know) Irish folk.

My perception of mainland Irish people is that they're far too religious, but still better than Americans who live south of Maryland.

[The Two Jerseys]

I really don't get where this comes from.

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

That, and a lot of it probably stems from the all the anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic propaganda from the 1800s.

[Ovisterra]

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

But violent?

Drunkenness makes people do dumb things, I guess. Statistically, we do binge drink a lot.

I've always wondered if the drinking stereotype is true.

My mom's side of the family is descended from Scotch-Irish immigrants, and nearly every one of her relatives has had a drinking problem. I hate puking too much to get truly drunk, so I've escaped this by only drinking in moderation, but if my family's any indication the stereotype is true in 85-90% of all cases.

See, this is what we call "anecdotal evidence". You are, coincidentally, right. Irish people binge drink a hell of a lot. I know that though, because I looked at statistics. You shouldn't say something like that unless you have proof. "My family do it" is not proof.

[Inyourfaceistan]

I have wanted to ask this for a long time, spurred on by this thread.

I am from Ireland. How are the Irish perceived by the people of the world abroad? How is the nation looked upon by people. Be honest. There is no way I can give my opinion for obvious reasons. So, NSG, what are the Irish like?

Irish in Ireland or Irish in America?
From what I have heard, it kind of goes like this:

Irish in Ireland are viewed as England's rowdier little brother. Most people hardly make the distinction between most European countries, but Ireland is one of the few they do give the benefit of difference. Also, because of a few minority fringe groups you guys are also sometimes referred to as "Celtic Afghanistan", but besides that your not really much to look down on, and many people want to visit Ireland.

Irish in America are viewed as drunk wife-beaters who, alongside the Mexicans, will soon overpopulate America. We are also criminal lowlifes who inhabit both urban slums and rural communities, unless of course we properly assimilate into society and rise through the social ranks, then we are just "white people" and are thus responsible for slavery and treatment of the Native Americans...

[Greed and Death]

Family guy explains everything about the Irish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQYY180CVKY

[Ovisterra]

Family guy explains everything about the Irish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQYY180CVKY

Yay insults and stereotypes.

[War-craft]

there should be more Irish here

[UCE Watchdog of the Puppets]

I see Irish guys as:
cool language, weird word order
nice country
parodied as being former technologically-advanced race who invented alcohol, reverting to a wife-beating drunkard state
How much alcohol does the average inhabitant of (the choose one: (Island of) (Republic of)) Ireland consume within, say, a year?

[Blazedtown]

Having only met their Drunken-American cousins, I can say that those dirty potato eaters across the pond are awesome dudes.

Probably the fact that we, as a nation, drink a lot.

That, and a lot of it probably stems from the all the anti-immigrant and anti-Catholic propaganda from the 1800s.

Or because its true.

The Irish have always had the reputation as a drinking culture. But even in a culture where drinking is relatively common, there exists a great deal of variation in actual drinking behavior. Compared to other European countries, the Irish simultaneously have high rates of abstention (23% for adults in Ireland compared to around 10% in most of Western continental Europe) and almost twice as high alcohol consumption per drinker (Ramstedt and Hope, 2005).1 Even in our sample of college students at a prominent Irish University, 5% of the students do not drink at all while a quarter of them consume more than ten drinks per week. Finally, binge drinking defined in the Ramstedt and Hope study as drinking a bottle of wine, 25 centiliters of sprits , or four pints of beer in one sitting (Ramstedt and Hope,2005) is far more common in Ireland compared to the rest of Europe. This study reports that 48% of Irish adult men engage in an episode of binge drinking at least once a week compared to 9% in Germany, 8% in France, and 11% in Italy (Ramstedt and Hope, 2005).

Source: “Why do some Irish drink so much?” from UCD CENTRE FOR ECONOMIC RESEARCH, WORKING PAPER SERIES, April 2008

http://www.bakadesuyo.com/2010/04/do-th ... that-much/

[Disserbia]

Really friendly Catholics that are almost as good at being alcoholics as I am. We aught to be careful with these threads though, or else everyone will start making them, and not everyone is as awesome as the Irish.

[Ovisterra]

:D there should be more Irish here

Why?