what's your opinion on videogame censorship?

[New Olwe]

This. If you're going to pile on the homework like the education system's been doing, you need to provide the kids with an outlet for that stress too. The fact that there aren't enough violent video games is a much greater contributor to the school shooting phenomenon.

Source?

What I said wasn't rehashed rhetoric, it was my own opinion. If that's not a good enough source for you, I see no reason to discuss this with you any further.

Violence: DO NOT CENSOR
Nudity/Sexual Content: CENSOR

I don't even know where to begin addressing the problems with this. I might as well just add you to my ignore list now, because one of these days your prudery is going to provoke massive amounts of flaming from me.

[SaintB]

I agree with a rating system but not with censorship.

[Iseon]

I agree with a rating system but not with censorship.

the current rating systems = censorship encouragers, therefore they ARE a form of censorship

[Albaron]

Against (except in really extreme circumstances (something really, really horrible, twisted, sick, depraved, violent, etc.)).

[The_pantless_hero]

Down with censorship, up with boobies. (Or blood & gore, as the case may be in Germany)

I agree with a rating system but not with censorship.

the current rating systems = censorship encouragers, therefore they ARE a form of censorship

You must live in a country where they don't censor games or you would know ratings are not themselves censorship.

[Iseon]

Down with censorship, up with boobies. (Or blood & gore, as the case may be in Germany)

I agree with a rating system but not with censorship.

the current rating systems = censorship encouragers, therefore they ARE a form of censorship

You must live in a country where they don't censor games or you would know ratings are not themselves censorship.

taking the game fallout 3 as an example here:

-the name of the item morphine was changed to med-x in ALL versions of the game because the australian ratings system dosen't have an
18+ (17+ or M) rating so they just banned it outright and, because bethesda were greedy they censored it

-manhunt 2 DID get censored because of the ESRB and there AO rating therefore many shops woulden't sell it

rating systems censor games by making greedy develppers censor the games themselves

[JuNii]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

^ This ^

and all companies who provide that rating (with a brief description of the content... such as language, violence, etc...) on the game package should be safe from any lawsuit from anyone who buys said game for someone whom it's not intended for.

Reading and Comprehension... they do work together.

[Iseon]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

^ This ^

and all companies who provide that rating (with a brief description of the content... such as language, violence, etc...) on the game package should be safe from any lawsuit from anyone who buys said game for someone whom it's not intended for.

Reading and Comprehension... they do work together.

if you read what i just wrote you would know why that dosen't work.

[Lord Tothe]

taking the game fallout 3 as an example here:

-the name of the item morphine was changed to med-x in ALL versions of the game because the australian ratings system dosen't have an
18+ (17+ or M) rating so they just banned it outright and, because bethesda were greedy they censored it

But thanks to the G.E.C.K mod platform, anyone can change the item name as they wish. There's probably a mod already out there on the community forums.

[JuNii]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

^ This ^

and all companies who provide that rating (with a brief description of the content... such as language, violence, etc...) on the game package should be safe from any lawsuit from anyone who buys said game for someone whom it's not intended for.

Reading and Comprehension... they do work together.

if you read what i just wrote you would know why that dosen't work.

I know. It's called wishful thinking.

[Iseon]

taking the game fallout 3 as an example here:

-the name of the item morphine was changed to med-x in ALL versions of the game because the australian ratings system dosen't have an
18+ (17+ or M) rating so they just banned it outright and, because bethesda were greedy they censored it

But thanks to the G.E.C.K mod platform, anyone can change the item name as they wish. There's probably a mod already out there on the community forums.

what about the ps3 and xbox 360 versions? there's no G.E.C.K or mods for those platforms...

what about no more heroes which also got censored? it has absolutely no modding tool since it's also a console game.

[The Romulan Republic]

My veiw on censorship in games is the same as it is everywhere else: copyright infringement (to a point, I think existing laws are probably too strict)/slander/incitement to violence are bad. Pretty much everything else should be allowed, with a warning about the content on the box, and people can make up their own minds weather they want to play it or not.

[Animarnia]

Against Censorship because I generally think the neat little descriptions on the back of boxes are more than sufficent to make an informed decison on the content of a game therein and if I want to play it. while I certainly wouldn't give 7 year old Kids GTA; I'd certainly not expect Rockstar to stop making GTA for everyone that wants to play it most of the time an age advisory and content brief is more than enough. Thats called stepping up and being a parent and policing your kid; not expecting everyone else to do it for you, you do not have a right not to be offended, you do have a right to an off button, to change channel or to not buy that product for you or your kids.

That said however; I've played a -lot- of violent video games, watched a lot of violent movies and am a very passive well adjusted person, I think anyone that confused Violent Games for Reality alread has a few nuts loose and quite frankly -anything- could set them off that its video games is purely incidental. DOJ studies have actually proved Violent Games have actaully decressed violent crime since the 1980's on a steady downward curve.

[Flameswroth]

As far as I'm concerned hit me with your best shot when it comes to violence.

But keep nudity and sexual content OUT, unless it pertains to a storyline.
This is what we have H-games and the internet for. We don't need a naked woman running around in Call of Duty.

As far as violence goes, Nazi Zombies on CoDWaW is about as gory as it gets, and it's awesome.

Violence: DO NOT CENSOR
Nudity/Sexual Content: CENSOR

I agree with this, to an extent. However, rather than censor one and not censor another, I'd simply want a different rating system that separated the two types. For instance, explicit sex and explicit violence are both relegated to an M rating (if not the Adults Only category, which more often than not has both in plentiful supply anyways). I think 'M' should be divided in to 'Mx' and 'Mv', the former being Mature for reasons regarding sexuality and the latter for violence.

Nowadays such details are described in fine print next to the rating, but I think creating separate rating systems would allow for a much more focused censorship focus, which in turn results in less aspects of a given game needing regulating. For example, less rigorous sexual censoring in an 'Mx' game, since it is a game rated based on sex. That kind of thing.

[Jordaxia]

I don't accept that anybody knows better than me what I am or am not safe to see. If it's so unsafe, why are they allowed access to it? Same for videogames. I've never seen any proof, never mind compelling proof, that videogames are a significant factor in breeding violence.

[Animarnia]

As far as I'm concerned hit me with your best shot when it comes to violence.

But keep nudity and sexual content OUT, unless it pertains to a storyline.
This is what we have H-games and the internet for. We don't need a naked woman running around in Call of Duty.

As far as violence goes, Nazi Zombies on CoDWaW is about as gory as it gets, and it's awesome.

Violence: DO NOT CENSOR
Nudity/Sexual Content: CENSOR

I agree with this, to an extent. However, rather than censor one and not censor another, I'd simply want a different rating system that separated the two types. For instance, explicit sex and explicit violence are both relegated to an M rating (if not the Adults Only category, which more often than not has both in plentiful supply anyways). I think 'M' should be divided in to 'Mx' and 'Mv', the former being Mature for reasons regarding sexuality and the latter for violence.

Nowadays such details are described in fine print next to the rating, but I think creating separate rating systems would allow for a much more focused censorship focus, which in turn results in less aspects of a given game needing regulating. For example, less rigorous sexual censoring in an 'Mx' game, since it is a game rated based on sex. That kind of thing.

You mean like the 12A Rating in the BBFC System, that seems to allow rather explict language and violence but if someone shows a boobie it has to have an 18 tag instead?

[Flameswroth]

As far as I'm concerned hit me with your best shot when it comes to violence.

But keep nudity and sexual content OUT, unless it pertains to a storyline.
This is what we have H-games and the internet for. We don't need a naked woman running around in Call of Duty.

As far as violence goes, Nazi Zombies on CoDWaW is about as gory as it gets, and it's awesome.

Violence: DO NOT CENSOR
Nudity/Sexual Content: CENSOR

I agree with this, to an extent. However, rather than censor one and not censor another, I'd simply want a different rating system that separated the two types. For instance, explicit sex and explicit violence are both relegated to an M rating (if not the Adults Only category, which more often than not has both in plentiful supply anyways). I think 'M' should be divided in to 'Mx' and 'Mv', the former being Mature for reasons regarding sexuality and the latter for violence.

Nowadays such details are described in fine print next to the rating, but I think creating separate rating systems would allow for a much more focused censorship focus, which in turn results in less aspects of a given game needing regulating. For example, less rigorous sexual censoring in an 'Mx' game, since it is a game rated based on sex. That kind of thing.

You mean like the 12A Rating in the BBFC System, that seems to allow rather explict language and violence but if someone shows a boobie it has to have an 18 tag instead?

Something like that, yeah. Except rather than making sexual content worse than violence and language by making it 18 instead of 12A, it'd be making two equally stringent ratings that focused on different aspects of censorship. In theory, I suppose you could even by that token make two 'versions' of a particularly raunchy game containing violence and sexuality. Well, three really; you could make one rated 'Mx' that censors the violence to a greater degree, 'Mv' that censors the sexuality to a greater degree, or an uncut version that doesn't censor at all that you could like...I dunno...require proof of age for purchase or something. IDK.

I would definitely try out an 'Mv' game, but avoid 'Mx' games. If I wanted boobies, I'd watch some pornography or get intimate with a girlfriend or something.

[Kashindahar]

so, what's your opinion on video game censorship?

i'm against it because it's nonsense, how the hell can a game be more acceptable if there is no blood? your STILL KILLING PEOPLE/ ANIMALS/ ALIENS/ ect...!
and why should language be an issue? how can a word like "poop" be acceptable but "crap" is not?

censorship is nonsense, so are the ratings (who actually are a form of censorship, or atleast encourage it, think of all the cases of "lowr ratingz = moar munniez for uz!!!!")

Against, if it wasn't for GTA:vice city + San Andreas, I would have killed someone by now.

Didn't you say that you're a pacifist?

[Lockion]

Look...if you say the game is why you killed five people and ate two of them...you have mental problems. Its not the games fault. All because of freaken Jack Thompson. So glad he cant do anything now.