what's your opinion on videogame censorship?

[Iseon]

so, what's your opinion on video game censorship?

i'm against it because it's nonsense, how the hell can a game be more acceptable if there is no blood? if the censors haven't noticed YOUR STILL KILLING PEOPLE/ ANIMALS/ ALIENS/ ECT...!
and why should language be an issue? how can a word like "poop" be acceptable but "crap" is not?

censorship is nonsense, so are the ratings (who actually are a form of censorship, or atleast encourage it, think of all the cases of "lowr ratingz = moar munniez for uz coz moar mumz will buy thiz crap for ther' kidz !!!!")

[Kobrania]

so, what's your opinion on video game censorship?

i'm against it because it's nonsense, how the hell can a game be more acceptable if there is no blood? your STILL KILLING PEOPLE/ ANIMALS/ ALIENS/ ect...!
and why should language be an issue? how can a word like "poop" be acceptable but "crap" is not?

censorship is nonsense, so are the ratings (who actually are a form of censorship, or atleast encourage it, think of all the cases of "lowr ratingz = moar munniez for uz!!!!")

Against, if it wasn't for GTA:vice city + San Andreas, I would have killed someone by now.

[Maurepas]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I do understand the impact of violence and dubious content in video games on all people and so it explains why classification systems such as PEGI and BBFC exist today, as we have in films. Actual censorship tends to attract a lot of opposition: in fact, a Greek Law that appeared tried to ban all video games didn't last long.

[Iseon]

I do understand the impact of violence and dubious content in video games on all people and so it explains why classification systems such as PEGI and BBFC exist today.

the PEGI, BBFC and ESRB ARE forms of censorship too since they encourage the companies to censor the games themselves in order to make more money (think of the AO rating or the banned games in australia)

[Maurepas]

I do understand the impact of violence and dubious content in video games on all people and so it explains why classification systems such as PEGI and BBFC exist today.

the PEGI, BBFC and ESRB ARE forms of censorship too since they encourage the companies to censor the games themselves in order to make more money (think of the AO rating or the banned games in australia)

Not if they are intelligent, ask Rockstar, six year olds are their number one demographic,

[Tunizcha]

Censorship of any kind is a direct violation of freedom of speech (which includes freedom of expression).

[Louis Van Boxel Woolf]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

[Iseon]

I do understand the impact of violence and dubious content in video games on all people and so it explains why classification systems such as PEGI and BBFC exist today.

the PEGI, BBFC and ESRB ARE forms of censorship too since they encourage the companies to censor the games themselves in order to make more money (think of the AO rating or the banned games in australia)

Not if they are intelligent, ask Rockstar, six year olds are their number one demographic,

unfortunately not all companies are as intelligent as rockstar, look at suda 51's no more heroes screwed-up english and japanese versions or
bethesda's fallout 3 morphine to "med-x" change because the australian censors said "omg drugz nuuuuuuuu!!!!! WE BAN!!!!"

[New Olwe]

Against, if it wasn't for GTA:vice city + San Andreas, I would have killed someone by now.

This. If you're going to pile on the homework like the education system's been doing, you need to provide the kids with an outlet for that stress too. The fact that there aren't enough violent video games is a much greater contributor to the school shooting phenomenon.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Against, if it wasn't for GTA:vice city + San Andreas, I would have killed someone by now.

This. If you're going to pile on the homework like the education system's been doing, you need to provide the kids with an outlet for that stress too. The fact that there aren't enough violent video games is a much greater contributor to the school shooting phenomenon.

Source?

[Maurepas]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

Only on people who are already at risk for such an effect from damn near anything, and those people really cant be stopped beforehand, you'd be wasting your time...

[Maurepas]

I do understand the impact of violence and dubious content in video games on all people and so it explains why classification systems such as PEGI and BBFC exist today.

the PEGI, BBFC and ESRB ARE forms of censorship too since they encourage the companies to censor the games themselves in order to make more money (think of the AO rating or the banned games in australia)

Not if they are intelligent, ask Rockstar, six year olds are their number one demographic,

unfortunately not all companies are as intelligent as rockstar, look at suda 51's no more heroes screwed-up english and japanese versions or
bethesda's fallout 3 morphine to "med-x" change because the australian censors said "omg drugz nuuuuuuuu!!!!! WE BAN!!!!"

Sounds like a problem in Australia, they dont have to do that in the United States, they just have to put the correct rating on it...

[EKJ-746]

there is no reason to censor violence, if a person goes through life without realising that a bullet can kill or a chainsaw will rip you into shreds then that person will be very accident prone.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

Only on people who are already at risk for such an effect from damn near anything, and those people really cant be stopped beforehand, you'd be wasting your time...

I think most people would be effected by pictures of violence been flashed, or partaking in the violence themselves. I didn't say it would make them 'want' to partake in a gun shooting, but may make them more aggressive.

[Maurepas]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

Only on people who are already at risk for such an effect from damn near anything, and those people really cant be stopped beforehand, you'd be wasting your time...

I think most people would be effected by pictures of violence been flashed, or partaking in the violence themselves. I didn't say it would make them 'want' to partake in a gun shooting, but may make them more aggressive.

Id need to see a source for that, Ive played alot of very violent games in my day, and Im not one whom many would consider aggressive by any means...

[Iseon]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

actually direct censorship is not the only problem, the age ratings play a major role in the censorship of games, if you look it up you'll see that only 16% of all 11000 games rated by the PEGI got an 18+ or 16+ rating meaning that only 16% of them MIGHT contain blood or "mature language" (not all 16+ games contain blood or "mature language") which is evidence that the PEGI "encourages" companies to censor there own games. ratings din't solve anything if anything they made it much worse

the real solution would be to remove AGE BASED ratings and censorship and replace them with descriptors such as "this game contains blood and gore, mature language and tobbaco use" which will allow people to make choises based on individual maturity, not physical age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegi

[Greenyville]

censorships bad mmkay

you think its right that you can take my graphic alien blasting away because some nut job twat went out and tried to reenact it in rl? he didnt do that because of the game, he did that because hes a fucking retard.

[Tunizcha]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

Only on people who are already at risk for such an effect from damn near anything, and those people really cant be stopped beforehand, you'd be wasting your time...

I think most people would be effected by pictures of violence been flashed, or partaking in the violence themselves. I didn't say it would make them 'want' to partake in a gun shooting, but may make them more aggressive.

Id need to see a source for that, Ive played alot of very violent games in my day, and Im not one whom many would consider aggressive by any means...

Funny enough, I have the Penn&Teller's Bullshit episode on this.

I guess eventually, NSG's cycle matches up with Bullshit episodes.

[Maurepas]

the real solution would be to remove AGE BASED ratings and censorship and replace them with descriptors such as "this game contains blood and gore, mature language and tobbaco use" which will allow people to make choises based on individual maturity, not physical age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegi

Meh, we have both, and I think it works out pretty well, nine times out of ten, when something is censored in the United States, and it didnt come from the FCC(read:doucebags, lol), its because the company who put it out is full of fundie nuts, like the fuckers who ruined the dub version of One Piece,

But, the fact is, that the majority who get the little "mature" sticker on them, still end up in the hands of kids far younger than 17, but, it was a personal decision, and I think it works because they were left to make it...

[EvilDarkMagicians]

There's no need to censor it, just put the rating, and let the people make their own decisions...

Couldn't agree more, people know that there is difference between REALITY and the VIRTUAL WORLD.

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

Only on people who are already at risk for such an effect from damn near anything, and those people really cant be stopped beforehand, you'd be wasting your time...

I think most people would be effected by pictures of violence been flashed, or partaking in the violence themselves. I didn't say it would make them 'want' to partake in a gun shooting, but may make them more aggressive.

Id need to see a source for that, Ive played alot of very violent games in my day, and Im not one whom many would consider aggressive by any means...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4594376.stm
http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/PC-Gaming/Do-Violent-Games-Make-Violent-People/

[Conserative Morality]

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

I've yet to be convinced that killing people in real life is acceptable or fun.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Do they?
Flashing pictures of people getting shot, killed, and blood spurting around.
Isn't going to have some kind of effect?

I've yet to be convinced that killing people in real life is acceptable or fun.

It's not. Well to 'most' people anyway.

[Teccor]

As far as I'm concerned hit me with your best shot when it comes to violence.

But keep nudity and sexual content OUT, unless it pertains to a storyline.
This is what we have H-games and the internet for. We don't need a naked woman running around in Call of Duty.

As far as violence goes, Nazi Zombies on CoDWaW is about as gory as it gets, and it's awesome.

Violence: DO NOT CENSOR
Nudity/Sexual Content: CENSOR