Pual Ryan tells the truth about health care

[Conserative Morality]

"Healthcare of the American people" insinuates that he wants to destroy Healthcare as an institution, not just as a governmental service. If you think him wanting to get rid of it is news, you're kinda forgetting he self-identifies as a Classical Liberal. You know, laissez faire economics. This is not news.

With how broken the Free Market version of healthcare is, at least in the states? That most certainly is trying to destroy the healthcare system of the American people.

[Choronzon]

"Healthcare of the American people" insinuates that he wants to destroy Healthcare as an institution, not just as a governmental service. If you think him wanting to get rid of it is news, you're kinda forgetting he self-identifies as a Classical Liberal. You know, laissez faire economics. This is not news.

With how broken the Free Market version of healthcare is, at least in the states? That most certainly is trying to destroy the healthcare system of the American people.

That and there is no Free Market with healthcare. It is not a service where both sides enter into a contract freely. It is an essential service. Therefore one side has all the power, the other has virtually none.

There can be no truly free market with healthcare. Any attempt to make it so is an attempt at exploitation in disguise.

[New Densaner]

Paul Ryan. The most dangerous stupid man in America.

Stupid people in some position of power or influence tend to be dangerous, so I wouldn't strike out that bit.

True. But he is only a Congressman in a split Congress. If he becomes a Senator or Governor then start to worry...

[Abatael]

You are aware that was a mistake, right?

Yep. A mistake. He said what he actually believes, not what he wanted to say.

And do you have a source for this being what he "actually" believe?

You are aware that was a mistake, right?

Hence why it's funny.

No; this guy here obviously took it as him being serious. Hence the, "Don't you just love it every time when the GOP opens their mouth and the oppos tell the truth with out meaning to." Of course, it was probably just a potshot because he's got nothing else to attack except a slip of the tongue. Can't say I'm surprised about that.

[New Wiendonia]

Wow this is sad. So from 8 seconds of him talking we gather he is an evil kill the poor Republican who wants to line his pockets with cash, stuf some for his rich business friends all while snickering at the poor dying in droves on the street (bc that totally happens in America) and driving away in his limo to a fortified mansion of doom?
I'd like to hear his whole speech before and after that remark please.

[New West Guiana]

Guys, the House only voted to repeal Obama care 33 times, each time with no hope of success. But OMG WHY ARE YOU ALL SO MEAN HE JUST MISSPOKE ITS NO BIG DEAL LEAVE RYAN ALONE!

he's planning number 34, that's literally the only thing the House as voted on repeatedly, also the party that believes in saving money by voting on it they've wasted over 30 million.

[Abatael]

Wow this is sad. So from 8 seconds of him talking we gather he is an evil kill the poor Republican who wants to line his pockets with cash, stuf some for his rich business friends all while snickering at the poor dying in droves on the street (bc that totally happens in America) and driving away in his limo to a fortified mansion of doom?
I'd like to hear his whole speech before and after that remark please.

From 8 seconds, and a with a complete inability to read and think, then yes; we do conclude that, but we happen to have the ability to read and think, so, no, we don't conclude that reasonably.

[New West Guiana]

Since so many people are bitching "I WANT TO SEE MORE THAN EIGHT SECONDS" Then here's 23 seconds, if you want more then either leave the thread or find it your self.

[New Densaner]

Ryan's unedited remarks

[Nailed to the Perch]

Wow this is sad. So from 8 seconds of him talking we gather he is an evil kill the poor Republican who wants to line his pockets with cash, stuf some for his rich business friends all while snickering at the poor dying in droves on the street (bc that totally happens in America) and driving away in his limo to a fortified mansion of doom?
I'd like to hear his whole speech before and after that remark please.

No, from 8 seconds of him speaking we conclude that he had a slip of the tongue that was pretty funny.

From his entire record to date we conclude that he's a smug, self-righteous dipshit who supports policies that are deeply detrimental to the American public.

[Democratic Koyro]

I sincerely hope that the arrogant, selfish bastard's political career is ended by this. I have absolutely nothing but contempt for this man.

[New West Guiana]

I sincerely hope that the arrogant, selfish bastard's political career is ended by this. I have absolutely nothing but contempt for this man.

No now he'll see his donations go up 100%, because he finally told everyone what we already knew. Because his "budget" would have gotten rid of medicare and Social Security.

[Abatael]

I sincerely hope that the arrogant, selfish bastard's political career is ended by this. I have absolutely nothing but contempt for this man.

And you have absolutely ignored my post in response to yours, as well.

Edit: You guys really like to live in your fantasy land, don't you? Ignoring everything to the contrary, listening to only the things you want to hear et cetera. Selective hearing, and reading, at its finest.

[The Emerald Dawn]

"My fellow Americans, I, Paul Ryan, am an unscrupulous cad who demands that everyone be denied access to the advantages I enjoyed in my life. You are nothing but slave labor. A resource to be utilized and replaced. No more important to us 'makers' than the wheels on our factory robots."

[Ceannairceach]

It was a poor choice of words, a simple gaffe.

That said, it's very, very telling, certainly.

[Choronzon]

I sincerely hope that the arrogant, selfish bastard's political career is ended by this. I have absolutely nothing but contempt for this man.

And you have absolutely ignored my post in response to yours, as well.

Edit: You guys really like to live in your fantasy land, don't you? Ignoring everything to the contrary, listening to only the things you want to hear et cetera. Selective hearing, and reading, at its finest.

Says the guy who is apparently so ignorant of Paul Ryan's positions that you claim he doesn't actually want to dismantle healthcare.

[Kvatchdom]

Wow.

[Mavorpen]

He chose his words poorly. It happens quite a lot in politics so it isn't a surprise.

[Divair]

It was a poor choice of words, a simple gaffe.

That said, it's very, very telling, certainly.

And that's it. Thread's over.

[New West Guiana]

Selective hearing, and reading, at its finest.

Considering i've looked through many of your past posts with keywords, ya don't lie you're just as guilty.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Selective hearing, and reading, at its finest.

Considering i've looked through many of your past posts with keywords, ya don't lie you're just as guilty.

Aren't we all?

[Choronzon]

Selective hearing, and reading, at its finest.

Considering i've looked through many of your past posts with keywords, ya don't lie you're just as guilty.

The best part is he thinks we're judging Ryan solely on the words in the OP, as opposed to his career, his record, and his budget.

[Napkiraly]

It was a poor choice of words, a simple gaffe.

That said, it's very, very telling, certainly.

And that's it. Thread's over.

But you know it won't be over. It'll go on for another few pages. I even suspect a gravedig within the next few weeks and it'll go on for another page or two.

[Divair]

And that's it. Thread's over.

But you know it won't be over. It'll go on for another few pages. I even suspect a gravedig within the next few weeks and it'll go on for another page or two.

NSG! Fuck yeah!

[Liriena]

Yes, Paul, keep pushing your foot further into your mouth.