The Mod-Sanctioned Israel/Palestine thread

[Kingdom of Israel]

They are descendants of immigrants/are immigrants themselves and not the indigenous population, but imperialists.
Most Jews have been in exile, but since this land belongs to all Jews this is completely different.

Jews are also immigrants.
Deal with it.

MOST Jews are RETURNERS (By the way, a Jewish population have always existed in the land of Israel. Called the Old Yishuv), their ancestors were taken as slaves by the imperialists who conquered our land against their will- and for generations they prayed "BESHANAH HABA'AH BEYERUSHALA'IM HABNUYAH-NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM".

[Kingdom of Israel]

This is a threadjack, if you want to discuss Britain- make a thread, but this is about Israel.

It is an example, an analogy. The Englishmen themselves are descendants of immigrants dating back at least one thousand and six hundred years ago. They were not the indigenous population, but imperialists (hell, colonists!).

Most Welsh have been in exile, but since its the past and it is now English land by right of conquest...

It isn't an argument- it's a threadjack.
Make a thread if you'll like.

[Aeken]

It is an example, an analogy. The Englishmen themselves are descendants of immigrants dating back at least one thousand and six hundred years ago. They were not the indigenous population, but imperialists (hell, colonists!).

Most Welsh have been in exile, but since its the past and it is now English land by right of conquest...

It isn't an argument- it's a threadjack.
Make a thread if you'll like.

[Harkback Union]

Jews are also immigrants.
Deal with it.

MOST Jews are RETURNERS (By the way, a Jewish population have always existed in the land of Israel. Called the Old Yishuv), their ancestors were taken as slaves by the imperialists who conquered our land against their will- and for generations they prayed "BESHANAH HABA'AH BEYERUSHALA'IM HABNUYAH-NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM".

Were they born in Israel? No? Than they aren't returners...

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Jews are also immigrants.
Deal with it.

MOST Jews are RETURNERS (By the way, a Jewish population have always existed in the land of Israel. Called the Old Yishuv), their ancestors were taken as slaves by the imperialists who conquered our land against their will- and for generations they prayed "BESHANAH HABA'AH BEYERUSHALA'IM HABNUYAH-NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM".

MOST Liberians are RETURNERS (By the way, an African population has always existed in the land of Liberia), their ancestors were taken as slaves by the imperialists who conquered their land against their will — and for generations they prayed.

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They return as immigrants. You are agreeing with the notion while adding flowery prose.

[Leningrad Union]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

By that logic, you must fucking hate Italian people.

[Kingdom of Israel]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

I don't think it's about the religions, but about the nations:
Jewish Nationalism vs. Arab Imperialism

[Aeken]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

They do have the Temple Mount....

[Kingdom of Israel]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

They do have the Temple Mount....

We could kick them out in 67'...
O what a mistake it was to let them keep it... Now it's way too dangerous to have it again in our hands...

[Harkback Union]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

I don't think it's about the religions, but about the nations:
Jewish Nationalism vs. Arab Imperialism

Arabs aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Islam has no claim to the holy land they desecrated the holy temple.

AVE CALIPHUS.

They do have the Temple Mount....

We could kick them out in 67'...
O what a mistake it was to let them keep it... Now it's way too dangerous to have it again in our hands...

With words like that you wonder why.

[Kingdom of Israel]

I don't think it's about the religions, but about the nations:
Jewish Nationalism vs. Arab Imperialism

Arabs aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Arabs aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

>Arab hive-mind.

[Aeken]

Arabs aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

Because one party represents all Arabs.

[Harkback Union]

Arabs aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

Jews have imperialist beliefs aswell, read the old testament.

[Kingdom of Israel]

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

Because one party represents all Arabs.

That's what they want- my point was in pointing this party is that even Arab citizens of Israel still think that way.

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Jews aren't an empire, they are an ethnic group.

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Old Testament says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is Greater Israel...

You could flip it backwards and it would still be just as bigoted and racist.

[Aeken]

Because one party represents all Arabs.

That's what they want- my point was in pointing this party is that even Arab citizens of Israel still think that way.

You never said Israeli Arabs. You just said Arabs.

Regardless, just because there is an extremist party does not mean everyone(in this case Israeli Arabs) thinks the same way.

[Kingdom of Israel]

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

Jews have imperialist beliefs aswell, read the old testament.

Yes, king David established an 80-year empire, until the major civil war of 930 BC destroyed it.
By the way, it's pre-Jews, when we were called Israelites- just noting.

Anyway- what's your point here?

[Seljuq Kyiv]

Because one party represents all Arabs.

That's what they want- my point was in pointing this party is that even Arab citizens of Israel still think that way.

>Palestinian hivemind

[Kingdom of Israel]

That's what they want- my point was in pointing this party is that even Arab citizens of Israel still think that way.

You never said Israeli Arabs. You just said Arabs.

Regardless, just because there is an extremist party does not mean everyone(in this case Israeli Arabs) thinks the same way.

Not everyone- but a lot if not even a majority (Talking now about the Arabs in general).

[Seljuq Kyiv]

The Rashidun Caliphate had exemplary women rights, freedoms of speech, welfare and wealth redistribution, not to mention a transparent government of the highest moral calibre.

And you blame them for an ideal of a Golden Age?

[Aeken]

You never said Israeli Arabs. You just said Arabs.

Regardless, just because there is an extremist party does not mean everyone(in this case Israeli Arabs) thinks the same way.

Not everyone- but a lot if not even a majority (Talking now about the Arabs in general).

And?

[Harkback Union]

But they have Imperialist beliefs, even the Arab-Israeli party Balad says it out-loud.
They want to recreate their "Golden Age" which is the Caliphate...

Jews have imperialist beliefs aswell, read the old testament.

Never mind, I got some quotes for you:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/7.html#2