The Mod-Sanctioned Israel/Palestine thread

[Aeken]

Give me a source.

Far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.

The Mosque is empty of worshipers... The Jews constitute the majority of Jerusalem's population.

I meant like statistics and such. Quotes from two people doesn't mean much. And I'm not talking about Jerusalem. I'm talking about Israel itself.

I don't see why he can't back his claims.

He has multiple times

Then it shouldn't be a problem showing them to me.

[Kingdom of Israel]

I meant like statistics and such. Quotes from two people doesn't mean much. And I'm not talking about Jerusalem. I'm talking about Israel itself.

He has multiple times

Then it shouldn't be a problem showing them to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry
Official British-mandate Enquiry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry

The Chief Immigration Officer has brought to notice that illicit immigration through Syria and across the northern frontier of Palestine is material. This question has already been discussed. It may be a difficult matter to ensure against this illicit immigration, but steps to this end must be taken if the suggested policy is adopted, as also to prevent unemployment lists being swollen by immigrants from TransJordania.

[Evraim]

i am against theocracy and states pursuing policies of ethnic purity unless israel does it then its ok

signed, barack obama

Israel isn't pursuing full ethnic purity. The president has also made it quite clear that he doesn't approve of ethnic cleansing.

[Nervium]

i am against theocracy and states pursuing policies of ethnic purity unless israel does it then its ok

signed, barack obama

Israel isn't pursuing full ethnic purity. The president has also made it quite clear that he doesn't approve of ethnic cleansing.

But Shimmy has no real power, am I right?

[Nysland]

What do you guys think of Halacka? I support and I think Israel should be a pure Jewish theocracy.

Jewish state is more important than a democratic state.

Absolutely not! We have more than enough theocracies as it is, we don't need another. A free and fair society depends on free and fair law decided upon by those who are subject to it, not laws based off an old book written by mysogynistic, superstitious, racist Bronze-Age Israelites.

[Evraim]

Israel isn't pursuing full ethnic purity. The president has also made it quite clear that he doesn't approve of ethnic cleansing.

But Shimmy has no real power, am I right?

Peres? How exactly does his being in power have anything to do with Israel not pursuing full ethnic purity? Or are you attempting to make my point for me? Not even Likud is talking about purging all Arabs from Israel, and Kadima is somewhat better than Likud.

[Evraim]

Absolutely not! We have more than enough theocracies as it is, we don't need another. A free and fair society depends on free and fair law decided upon by those who are subject to it, not laws based off an old book written by misogynistic, superstitious, racist Bronze-Age Israelites.

I have some reservations about calling ancient peoples racist. The general tendency was to despise anyone from outside of your immediate social and cultural group. The Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians all maintained a similar outlook. They didn't care what color a person's skin was. They cared that said person was from the village over the hills as opposed to their own village.

Also, the Torah probably wasn't written during the Bronze Age. Most experts theorize that it was written down several hundred years after the Bronze Age collapse, and even after the collapse of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, neither of which constituted Bronze Age civilizations. If you're going to dismiss another person's religious beliefs, do it with something more than recycled and inaccurate assertions.

I would have to agree with the general argument, though, at least in so far as you are stating that secular societies are preferable and that religion is a form of superstition. Of course, I'm religious, but that doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge that religion isn't based on the natural sciences or that I want to impose my views on others.

[Kingdom of Israel]

But Shimmy has no real power, am I right?

Peres? How exactly does his being in power have anything to do with Israel not pursuing full ethnic purity? Or are you attempting to make my point for me? Not even Likud is talking about purging all Arabs from Israel, and Kadima is somewhat better than Likud.

In reality- Likud is left-wing...

[Seljuq Kyiv]

I meant like statistics and such. Quotes from two people doesn't mean much. And I'm not talking about Jerusalem. I'm talking about Israel itself.
Then it shouldn't be a problem showing them to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry
Official British-mandate Enquiry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry

The Chief Immigration Officer has brought to notice that illicit immigration through Syria and across the northern frontier of Palestine is material. This question has already been discussed. It may be a difficult matter to ensure against this illicit immigration, but steps to this end must be taken if the suggested policy is adopted, as also to prevent unemployment lists being swollen by immigrants from TransJordania.

You could hardly blame Bedouins that had no concept of borders, only grazing land. Or the fact that until recently the territory was part of a larger single nation that spanned from Suez to Basra.

[Kingdom of Israel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry
Official British-mandate Enquiry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Simpson_Enquiry

You could hardly blame Bedouins that had no concept of borders, only grazing land. Or the fact that until recently the territory was part of a larger single nation that spanned from Suez to Basra.

Bedouins? This is of Arabs in general.
Modern "Palestinians".

[Nervium]

Peres? How exactly does his being in power have anything to do with Israel not pursuing full ethnic purity? Or are you attempting to make my point for me? Not even Likud is talking about purging all Arabs from Israel, and Kadima is somewhat better than Likud.

In reality- Likud is left-wing...

Wich reality, the one with with talking donkeys?

[Kingdom of Israel]

You know- re-writing History is a thing happening right now. Not only in fiction books such as 1984.
Except for re-writing attempts such as holocaust denial there are other attempt- that in fact managed to probably fool most of the people in the world.
And by the History re-writing I'm talking about the "Palestinian lie", it seems quite ludicrous but not only that they claim they have been here for many generations (A false claim), they are also telling their population (In school-books for example) that people like Jesus and King David were in fact Palestinian, and even though you might find it insane to believe your own children might believe that lie like you now believe they have been here for a long time, or that Israel did war crimes and such (Things that of course never happened, and in my opinion we treat them way better than we should be...)
Ironically the people funding those text-books that by the way, many times refers to Jews as Pigs and Monkeys and tells those lies and History-rewriting are funded by the "enlightened" European Union.

[Nervium]

But Shimmy has no real power, am I right?

Peres? How exactly does his being in power have anything to do with Israel not pursuing full ethnic purity? Or are you attempting to make my point for me? Not even Likud is talking about purging all Arabs from Israel, and Kadima is somewhat better than Likud.

Yeah, I confused president with the president of Israel, not of the USA. Sorry for that.

[Kingdom of Israel]

In reality- Likud is left-wing...

Wich reality, the one with with talking donkeys?

Nah, but that reality that the world believes that the Arabs are natives to the land of Israel and call the land "Palestine".

[Kingdom of Israel]

But Shimmy has no real power, am I right?

Peres? How exactly does his being in power have anything to do with Israel not pursuing full ethnic purity? Or are you attempting to make my point for me? Not even Likud is talking about purging all Arabs from Israel, and Kadima is somewhat better than Likud.

Are you a leftist?

[Harkback Union]

You know- re-writing History is a thing happening right now. Not only in fiction books such as 1984.
Except for re-writing attempts such as holocaust denial there are other attempt- that in fact managed to probably fool most of the people in the world.
And by the History re-writing I'm talking about the "Palestinian lie", it seems quite ludicrous but not only that they claim they have been here for many generations (A false claim), they are also telling their population (In school-books for example) that people like Jesus and King David were in fact Palestinian, and even though you might find it insane to believe your own children might believe that lie like you now believe they have been here for a long time, or that Israel did war crimes and such (Things that of course never happened, and in my opinion we treat them way better than we should be...)
Ironically the people funding those text-books that by the way, many times refers to Jews as Pigs and Monkeys and tells those lies and History-rewriting are funded by the "enlightened" European Union.

I think we reached the point in history when we should either burn all history books or abolish nationalism...

[The balkens]

You know- re-writing History is a thing happening right now. Not only in fiction books such as 1984.
Except for re-writing attempts such as holocaust denial there are other attempt- that in fact managed to probably fool most of the people in the world.
And by the History re-writing I'm talking about the "Palestinian lie", it seems quite ludicrous but not only that they claim they have been here for many generations (A false claim), they are also telling their population (In school-books for example) that people like Jesus and King David were in fact Palestinian, and even though you might find it insane to believe your own children might believe that lie like you now believe they have been here for a long time, or that Israel did war crimes and such (Things that of course never happened, and in my opinion we treat them way better than we should be...)
Ironically the people funding those text-books that by the way, many times refers to Jews as Pigs and Monkeys and tells those lies and History-rewriting are funded by the "enlightened" European Union.

I think we reached the point in history when we should either burn all history books or abolish nationalism...

I pick nationalism. Because I require history books to learn, damn it

[Harkback Union]

I think we reached the point in history when we should either burn all history books or abolish nationalism...

I pick nationalism. Because I require history books to learn, damn it

Agreed. Now we just need Cosmopolitan parties... to take over.
But there are so few.

[Kingdom of Israel]

You know- re-writing History is a thing happening right now. Not only in fiction books such as 1984.
Except for re-writing attempts such as holocaust denial there are other attempt- that in fact managed to probably fool most of the people in the world.
And by the History re-writing I'm talking about the "Palestinian lie", it seems quite ludicrous but not only that they claim they have been here for many generations (A false claim), they are also telling their population (In school-books for example) that people like Jesus and King David were in fact Palestinian, and even though you might find it insane to believe your own children might believe that lie like you now believe they have been here for a long time, or that Israel did war crimes and such (Things that of course never happened, and in my opinion we treat them way better than we should be...)
Ironically the people funding those text-books that by the way, many times refers to Jews as Pigs and Monkeys and tells those lies and History-rewriting are funded by the "enlightened" European Union.

I think we reached the point in history when we should either burn all history books or abolish nationalism...

How about no...

[The balkens]

I pick nationalism. Because I require history books to learn, damn it

Agreed. Now we just need Cosmopolitan parties... to take over.
But there are so few.

Give it another world war, I'm sure something will happen.

[Harkback Union]

I think we reached the point in history when we should either burn all history books or abolish nationalism...

How about no...

But you just said. History books are used to... fool people.
Why not just burn them all and make it public knowledge that historians lie...
or abolish nationalism so we can restore history's credibility.

[Kingdom of Israel]

How about no...

But you just said. History books are used to... fool people.
Why not just burn them all and make it public knowledge that historians lie...
or abolish nationalism so we can restore history's credibility.

Let's do none.
The "Palestinian" "History" isn't really History.
There's no "Palestinian nationalism" as there's no real Paletinian nation- they are Arab Imperialists that want to re-create the Caliphate. (Even Arab-Israeli party Balad says it outloud).

[Harkback Union]

Agreed. Now we just need Cosmopolitan parties... to take over.
But there are so few.

Give it another world war, I'm sure something will happen.

Like, everyone dies?

[The balkens]

But you just said. History books are used to... fool people.
Why not just burn them all and make it public knowledge that historians lie...
or abolish nationalism so we can restore history's credibility.

Let's do none.
The "Palestinian" "History" isn't really History.
There's no "Palestinian nationalism" as there's no real Paletinian nation- they are Arab Imperialists that want to re-create the Caliphate. (Even Arab-Israeli party Balad says it outloud).

Bullshit on 95% of this post.

[Kingdom of Israel]

Let's do none.
The "Palestinian" "History" isn't really History.
There's no "Palestinian nationalism" as there's no real Paletinian nation- they are Arab Imperialists that want to re-create the Caliphate. (Even Arab-Israeli party Balad says it outloud).

Bullshit on 95% of this post.

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