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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:38 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
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Why are you asking in this thread?

We're discussing the North Korean famine, and the aftermath as compared to similar rates in other developing nations?


Ah, I admit to not really keeping up with the thread, and my brief glance didn't show that to me, fair enough, apologies, carry on.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:I don't wanna sound retarded, but what it exactly is the requirement to be defined as childhood growth stinted? :blink:

Growth stunting is identified by comparing measurements of children's heights to the NCHS growth reference population: children who fall below the fifth percentile of the reference population in height for age are defined as stunted, regardless of the reason. As an indicator of nutritional status, comparisons of children's measurements with growth reference curves may be used differently for populations of children than for individual children. The fact that an individual child falls below the fifth percentile for height for age on a growth reference curve may reflect normal variation in growth within a population: the individual child may be short simply because both his parents carried genes for shortness and not because of inadequate nutrition. However, if substantially more than 5% of an identified child population have height for age that is less than the fifth percentile on the reference curve, then the population is said to have a higher-than-expected prevalence of stunting, and malnutrition is generally the first cause considered.


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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:We're discussing the North Korean famine, and the aftermath as compared to similar rates in other developing nations?


Ah, I admit to not really keeping up with the thread, and my brief glance didn't show that to me, fair enough, apologies, carry on.

Why do you linger so?

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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:43 pm

United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:I don't wanna sound retarded, but what it exactly is the requirement to be defined as childhood growth stinted? :blink:


According to UNICEF, which hosted the North Korean survey, stunting is defined as:
"Moderate and severe [malnutrition] - below minus two standard deviations from median height for age of reference population."

The survey conducted in North Korea used the WHO 2006 growth standards as the reference, and had a sample size sufficient for fairly restricted 95% confidence intervals.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:49 pm

Novraslavia wrote:
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Ah, I admit to not really keeping up with the thread, and my brief glance didn't show that to me, fair enough, apologies, carry on.

Why do you linger so?


Well, 2 reasons

1) the moderator one, this thread has been seen two longish bans handed out. IT as a source of trouble and therefore bears watching
2) The more prominent reason, its in my posts and when I see a new post n it, habitually, I check it, as I do almost everything else in my post history.

Does it bother you? Do I make you nervous? Afraid? Are you doing something wrong? You have nothing to fear if you're innocent! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! Come with me to the station!
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:51 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Novraslavia wrote:Why do you linger so?


Well, 2 reasons

1) the moderator one, this thread has been seen two longish bans handed out. IT as a source of trouble and therefore bears watching
2) The more prominent reason, its in my posts and when I see a new post n it, habitually, I check it, as I do almost everything else in my post history.

Does it bother you? Do I make you nervous? Afraid? Are you doing something wrong? You have nothing to fear if you're innocent! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! Come with me to the station!

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Postby United Kingdom of Muffins » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:53 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
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Why are you asking in this thread?

Because Joseon just gave us statistics on stunted growth from malnutrition in NK.

I don't know how we can compare the statistics he gave us if he didn't give us the definition used by the data collection groups. I.E. NK child growth stinted is 1 inch in India its 4 inches of undergrowth or something.
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:56 pm

United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Because Joseon just gave us statistics on stunted growth from malnutrition in NK.

I don't know how we can compare the statistics he gave us if he didn't give us the definition used by the data collection groups. I.E. NK child growth stinted is 1 inch in India its 4 inches of undergrowth or something.


I gave you the definition above. UNICEF hosted both surveys, which is why I selected them, so the definition is consistent across both data sets.
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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:57 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Novraslavia wrote:Why do you linger so?


Well, 2 reasons

1) the moderator one, this thread has been seen two longish bans handed out. IT as a source of trouble and therefore bears watching
2) The more prominent reason, its in my posts and when I see a new post n it, habitually, I check it, as I do almost everything else in my post history.

Does it bother you? Do I make you nervous? Afraid? Are you doing something wrong? You have nothing to fear if you're innocent! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! Come with me to the station!

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Postby United Kingdom of Muffins » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:58 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:I don't know how we can compare the statistics he gave us if he didn't give us the definition used by the data collection groups. I.E. NK child growth stinted is 1 inch in India its 4 inches of undergrowth or something.


I gave you the definition above. UNICEF hosted both surveys, which is why I selected them, so the definition is consistent across both data sets.

Thanks you didn't post that when I started typing it though you guys post to fast :oops:
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:58 pm

Transnapastain wrote:Does it bother you? Do I make you nervous? Afraid? Are you doing something wrong? You have nothing to fear if you're innocent! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! Come with me to the station!


Hey, when did NSG become part of Arizona?
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:59 pm

United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:
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I gave you the definition above. UNICEF hosted both surveys, which is why I selected them, so the definition is consistent across both data sets.

Thanks you didn't post that when I started typing it though you guys post to fast :oops:


Ah, no worries!
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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:59 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:Does it bother you? Do I make you nervous? Afraid? Are you doing something wrong? You have nothing to fear if you're innocent! SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS! Come with me to the station!


Hey, when did NSG become part of Arizona?

Hey, that's where I live!

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Hey, when did NSG become part of Arizona?

Hey, that's where I live!

I'm sorry to hear that.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:00 pm

Novraslavia wrote:
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Hey, when did NSG become part of Arizona?

Hey, that's where I live!


I take it you're brown and paperless? :D
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:00 pm

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Hey, when did NSG become part of Arizona?

Hey, that's where I live!


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Hey, that's where I live!

Well no wonder he stopped you.
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Postby Novraslavia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:03 pm

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:03 pm

In all honesty, I hope NK is serious this time. It'll give SK the perfect excuse for Korean unification finally.
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Postby Greto » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:08 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:In all honesty, I hope NK is serious this time. It'll give SK the perfect excuse for Korean unification finally.


Why would South Korea want the North? It would end up being a gigantic money pit and would take decades to get all that damn propaganda out of their heads. It'd be easier to keep things the way they are and just let North Korea to continue it's drunken rambles about unification and world war III.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:24 pm

Greto wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:In all honesty, I hope NK is serious this time. It'll give SK the perfect excuse for Korean unification finally.


Why would South Korea want the North? It would end up being a gigantic money pit and would take decades to get all that damn propaganda out of their heads. It'd be easier to keep things the way they are and just let North Korea to continue it's drunken rambles about unification and world war III.

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Postby Reggae Magmia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:28 pm

The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:So NS, what do you believe will happen?

Nothing, just like what happens every flipping time the chihuahua goes on another wave of annoying barks and empty threats against the rottweiler.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:36 pm

Greto wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:In all honesty, I hope NK is serious this time. It'll give SK the perfect excuse for Korean unification finally.


Why would South Korea want the North? It would end up being a gigantic money pit and would take decades to get all that damn propaganda out of their heads. It'd be easier to keep things the way they are and just let North Korea to continue it's drunken rambles about unification and world war III.

The deal with NK and SK is the same as it was with West and East Germany, one nation split into two. The Korean nation has been divide for far too long, it is time for the South to reclaim its northern kin. To be honest I feel the same way about China and Taiwan, the RoC needs to go.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:38 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Greto wrote:
Why would South Korea want the North? It would end up being a gigantic money pit and would take decades to get all that damn propaganda out of their heads. It'd be easier to keep things the way they are and just let North Korea to continue it's drunken rambles about unification and world war III.

The deal with NK and SK is the same as it was with West and East Germany, one nation split into two. The Korean nation has been divide for far too long, it is time for the South to reclaim its northern kin. To be honest I feel the same way about China and Taiwan, the RoC needs to go.

The problem is, though that the East Germans were never as completely cut off from the world and as indoctrinated as the North Koreans have been. The main problem there was financial, not cultural or social (or mental).
To say nothing of the fact that the economic cost of reintegrating North Korea would simply be massive even in relation to the costs West Germany undertook to reintegrate the East.

Most South Koreans don't even seem to want reunification anymore. Can you blame them?
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