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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:08 am

Imagine if your entire life and everything you knew wasnt really real.......


1# Imagine if in reality on some advanced alien space craft an alien experiament took place to create or simulate life and that life was you and the reality is not the life your living but really a bunch of images,emotions,thoughts and feelings injected into this pod of fluid that contained a manufactured brain (your brain) and all of what you are experiencing is just fake/manufactured by the aliens in this experiament to simulate or manufacture a real life. So everything you know is fake and your really just a brain soaking in this fluid filled pod made by aliens.

2# What is nothing and what is existence? Is it possable to experiance nothing? would it just be continual darkness with no sound what so ever... is that nothing though and there would be no way to experience it. Perhaps the only way of dealing with experiancing "Nothing" is to create an illusion and that illusion is your life. That means that your life means nothing its just some illusion of colour's sounds and images and a way of dealing with "Nothing"...... I dont know where im going with this but it made sense in my head

#3 How many of your transactions are done through eftpos? every eftpos transaction is recorded which means the information is out there and records are kept on everything you buy on eftpos which means its possable for some organization with enough influence/power/money to get thier hands on this information. What about CCTV with facial recognition. That basically means a camera is capturing your every move and can recognize your face which means once again this information is recorded and some organization with enough Influence/power/money can get this information to track where you go in the city. Also text mesages. I dont know if its the same where you live but cell phone company's can track text messages and store them which means any organization with enough power influence etc can get access to this information to track what you communicate to your pals. Its basically the same with emails and what you search in your internet.... So imagine a powerful/wealthy/influential organization say your own government that could in theory secretly track what you communicate to your pals in email and in texts and can see what you look at in the internet and also have access to what you buy in a week or where you travel. ANY deviation from the norm could be noticed and perhaps there is some world order that knows how to manipulate all these factors in their favour and this secret elite rule as we speak releasing harmful information to journalists to destroy critics or blackmailing critics.

#4 Imagine if the ocilating universe theory was entirly correct in which a BIG BANG created the universe which caused the universe to cool and contain life and then eventually the universe will stop growing and shrink in on itself getting hotter and hotter until all life is destroyed and before complete collapse another BIG BANG is created and IF the explosion is exactly the same as the first explosion then the atoms would form the exact same way, galaxy's would form the exact same way which means planet earth and our sun would form the exact same way which means we would be brought up the exact same way and the ENTIRE HISTORY of the universe repeated itself in this never ending pattern only for the universe to impload and cause another big bang with this exact history of the universe once again repeating. which means every cycle of the universe that has passed had identical copies of you living the exact life you live.... but would that truly be you??? no matter how random thought you had your identical you in the last universe cycle had the exact same thought. for all we know this ocillating universe cycle could be in its 9 billionth cycle and its a never ending pattern.

#5 Imagine if the entire world knew some mysterious secret maybe the origins of life or what existence truly is but in some strange or unexplainable experiment they keep the secret from you and YOU are the ONLY being that is not in on this big secret to existence. Perhaps everyone around you are just illusions or projections by your mind that know everything but act and pretend like they are your mother/siblings/neighbors/friends and you are the only one NOT in the loop as to whats going on.

#6 Try explaining colours to a blind person or try explaining sound to a deaf person. Imagine a world of eternal blackness or whatever a blind person experiences and you wouldnt even know what human beings look like or what colour our skin was or what colour was at all. Imagine a world of eternal silence like mute on a TV you could only think in Images as you would have no concept of sound or what experiencing it truly was! but then again imagine some advanced alien species trying to descibe a sense to us that we could never comprehend what other senses could there be that we dont have??? Being able to speak with our minds??

#7 Imagine how life would be now if Hitler had been accepted into that art school instead of the history we got in which he was rejected and went on to provoke the world into a brutal war. what one would think was a one minor insignificant descision to reject a student from an art school changed the history of the world in such a radical way....... perhaps some idealistic citizen just got rejected from some art school in your country whats the consequences of that descision in 20 years

hmmmm thats about all I can think about. These thoughts were all inspired by stoner philisophical conversations and were thought up while high. anybody got any thoughts or perhaps some of thier own freaky insights??
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Postby RightLeaningChristians » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:14 am

tl:dr


#1. I do believe reality is fake, and is just something the gods placed around us so they can feed off our energy.

About Hitler. No idea.
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Postby LOL ANARCHY NUBZ » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:47 am

Nothing actually exists outside of the observer, as everything is observed within ourselves.

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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:50 am

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:50 am

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

-"Imagine" by John Lennon
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Postby Non Aligned States » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:37 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

-"Imagine" by John Lennon


To add to a slightly paraphrased exception...

Imagine, when everyone looks at one another, and says "Friend"

And when that happens we hope to take you all by surprise and slaughter as many of you as possible.

- "Free. Dead, but free at last" by Richard

*nods*

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Postby LOL ANARCHY NUBZ » Sun Nov 01, 2009 6:55 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

-"Imagine" by John Lennon


To add to a slightly paraphrased exception...

Imagine, when everyone looks at one another, and says "Friend"

And when that happens we hope to take you all by surprise and slaughter as many of you as possible.

- "Free. Dead, but free at last" by Richard

*nods*


I feel sorry for those who feel this is a good thing. :roll:

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Postby Non Aligned States » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:35 am

LOL ANARCHY NUBZ wrote:I feel sorry for those who feel this is a good thing. :roll:


Don't be sorry. Be wary. Think of it as a warning.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:37 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
LOL ANARCHY NUBZ wrote:I feel sorry for those who feel this is a good thing. :roll:


Don't be sorry. Be wary. Think of it as a warning.


Doesn't anybody like surprises anymore? :(
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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:38 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Non Aligned States wrote:
LOL ANARCHY NUBZ wrote:I feel sorry for those who feel this is a good thing. :roll:


Don't be sorry. Be wary. Think of it as a warning.


Doesn't anybody like surprises anymore? :(

Nope they don't, they call the police.
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Well... try defining the word 'word'. Heh heh... got you good...

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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:51 am

Bulgislavia wrote:1# Imagine if in reality on some advanced alien space craft an alien experiament took place to create or simulate life and that life was you and the reality is not the life your living but really a bunch of images,emotions,thoughts and feelings injected into this pod of fluid that contained a manufactured brain (your brain) and all of what you are experiencing is just fake/manufactured by the aliens in this experiament to simulate or manufacture a real life. So everything you know is fake and your really just a brain soaking in this fluid filled pod made by aliens.

The point is: would I know that it weren't real? If everything I know is fake, I don't know that it is fake, right? So nothing changes.

2# What is nothing and what is existence? Is it possable to experiance nothing? would it just be continual darkness with no sound what so ever... is that nothing though and there would be no way to experience it. Perhaps the only way of dealing with experiancing "Nothing" is to create an illusion and that illusion is your life. That means that your life means nothing its just some illusion of colour's sounds and images and a way of dealing with "Nothing"...... I dont know where im going with this but it made sense in my head

It is possible to experience "nothing". Just cut off all the nerves carrying sensorial stimuli to the brain. I wouldn't do that, though.

#3 How many of your transactions are done through eftpos?

Zero. I'm not Australian neither NZer.

wiki: EFTPOS (Electronic Funds Transfer at Point of Sale) is an Australian and New Zealand financial network

#4 Imagine if the ocilating universe theory was entirly correct in which a BIG BANG created the universe which caused the universe to cool and contain life and then eventually the universe will stop growing and shrink in on itself getting hotter and hotter until all life is destroyed and before complete collapse another BIG BANG is created and IF the explosion is exactly the same as the first explosion then the atoms would form the exact same way,

1.No it wouldn't necessarily follow the same way the same pattern. You know, it isn't clockwork mechanics; uncertainity and chaos are part of physics. Also, during a collapse into a singularity (even before, just at Planck's lenght) you have loss of information (see Hawking and Penrose about black holes).
2.Anyway, even if the Universe repeated itself, we wouldn't know (do we know it now? No.) . So it would make no difference.

#5 Imagine if the entire world knew some mysterious secret maybe the origins of life or what existence truly is but in some strange or unexplainable experiment they keep the secret from you and YOU are the ONLY being that is not in on this big secret to existence.

Watched "The Truman Show" lately, did you? Just do what Truman does: reject what other people (including the voice claiming to be "God") and experiment yourself.

#6 Try explaining colours to a blind person or try explaining sound to a deaf person.

Easy. Colour: there are different wavelenghts of electromagnetic radiation. Non-blind people have sensory organs able to react to e.m. radiation (in a quite narrow wavelenght spectrum).
And for sound you can explain it about the same way. Actually it's even easier to explain sound to a deaf person, because he has feel - this means he can feel infrasounds anyway.

#7 Imagine how life would be now if Hitler had been accepted into that art school instead of the history we got in which he was rejected and went on to provoke the world into a brutal war.

WW2 would have happened anyway. Maybe with Germany led by Goering.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:24 am

Tl;dr

So are you proposing that life is basically a Truman Show?
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Postby Alexlantis » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:29 am

*head asplodes*
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Postby Western Mercenary Unio » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:35 am

tl:dr

And, my reaction would probably be: ''Oh, okay. Well, see ya, I have to go play WoW''.
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Postby Southern Yugoslavia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:59 pm

Here's one for ya... What if your life right now is all a dream then when you die you really wake up?
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Postby Bulgislavia » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:39 pm

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Southern Yugoslavia wrote:Here's one for ya... What if your life right now is all a dream then when you die you really wake up?


well im a spiritual person. I dont believe in any god but I believe in different forms of life that maybe we cant comprehend and I believe in souls. So imagine if souls inhabited living beings or bodies to learn life lessons and exerience and then whent that body dies the soul is freed to move onto another life and experience things from a different view point?? I love thinking about this sort of stuff :P

Do you guys also think that the planet earth is another form of life. Its created (born) lives for a few billion years and is active and will eventually die
just like a sun. its born, lives for a few billion years and then dies and then there are galaxies which is a completly different form of life and then the Universe which is like the highest form of life its born (big bang) it will grow and live and then eventually die and it contains trillions of mircoorganisms and life forms within just like Humans are born and eventually die and we contain billions of micro-organizism within us too. Just like a germ couldnt comprehend us as a higher form of life or anything past the habitat it inhabited we cant comprehend what is outside the universe, if its another form of life. Im sure some person would argue against this but its just what i think. I consider the universe another form of life just like I consider the earth another form of life :)
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I dream that I am here
of these imprisonments charged,
and I dreamed that in another state
happier I saw myself.
What is life? A frenzy.
What is life? An illusion,
A shadow, a fiction,
And the greatest profit is small;
For all of life is a dream,
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Who cares?

Postby Cradled Squads » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:45 pm

Not many, not really...and I'm not one of the few that do: Specious mental meanderings irritate me. DO try to come up with a meaningful topic.

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Postby Callisdrun » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:50 pm

Easy. I just redefine reality to mean the illusion that I perceive/live in.
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Postby Allbeama » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:50 pm

Southern Yugoslavia wrote:Here's one for ya... What if your life right now is all a dream then when you die you really wake up?


I'm wide awake the more I sleep...
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Postby Cameroi » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:07 am

sense of disconnect from over exposure to corporate media, and/or too little exposure to nature's diversity and dreaming one's own dreams.

yes, most of what we think we know is filtered through how others have told us to think and see things. if we let it be. if we don't make the effort to open our own eyes. seek the real gratifications of the creative process and really looking without filtering what we see through what others tell us to expect.

go out in the woods, or just someplace where you're not walking on pavement, reach down and grab a handful of the common earth, squeze it between your fingers. or when you stub your toe on the way to or from the bathroom in the middle of the night, ask yourself, is it all REALLY inside my head?

we CAN play with reality, partially by how we look at things.
the universe is full of leggo blox. some, most of them are beyond each of our individual reach.
but some of them are not. we may not be able to rearange everything to our complete personal satisfaction. but if we look around we may find some things that we can.

it is true that we are all pawns in the same game, but it is also true, that we are also, all of us, the players of it.

(and i don't mean just here on nation states or some massively multiplayer online grand theft auto or world of whorecraft)
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Postby Geniasis » Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:06 am

Dimoniquid wrote:Well... try defining the word 'word'. Heh heh... got you good...


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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:39 pm

nothing is what happens when we stop thinking i know that much.
to be honest you've kinda piled on about 7 different scenarios, and mashed them into my head so i'll just focus on the first one for now.

1# Imagine if in reality on some advanced alien space craft an alien experiament took place to create or simulate life and that life was you and the reality is not the life your living but really a bunch of images,emotions,thoughts and feelings injected into this pod of fluid that contained a manufactured brain (your brain) and all of what you are experiencing is just fake/manufactured by the aliens in this experiament to simulate or manufacture a real life. So everything you know is fake and your really just a brain soaking in this fluid filled pod made by aliens.

so what if it's fake, it's all i know and for now i'll treat it as i always have, with a bitter lemon on ice cream.

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Postby JuNii » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:46 pm

Bulgislavia wrote:Imagine if your entire life and everything you knew wasnt really real.......
{snipped for length}


ok. *Imagines*
on the other hand... I have another set of fingers.

Unscramble these words...1) PNEIS. 2)HTIELR 3) NGGERI 4) BUTTSXE
1) SPINE. 2) LITHER 3)GINGER 4)SUBTEXT

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