Transhumanism

[Divair]

Why wouldn't you?

It's dangerous man! You're playing god or some shit!

I'm not playing god, I am a god.

[Trollgaard]

If your desires include supporting transhumanism, then yes, they are dangerous.

Which part? Getting rid of cancer, replacing lost/broken limbs, removing death from old age? Be more specific.

It depends on how those are achieved, but removing death is not a good thing.

[Divair]

Why wouldn't you?

Because it defeats the whole purpose. Evolution is meant to happen over several generations to be perfect when necessary. When you speed it up you're creating an almost new species in a world that's not ready for it. Or vice versa.

So tetanus vaccines are bad because they defeat the whole purpose of tetanus existing?

[Ordya]

Why wouldn't you?

It's dangerous man! You're playing god or some shit!

No, I don't care about that. Play God if you want.

[Divair]

It depends on how those are achieved, but removing death is not a good thing.

Says who?

[Ordya]

Because it defeats the whole purpose. Evolution is meant to happen over several generations to be perfect when necessary. When you speed it up you're creating an almost new species in a world that's not ready for it. Or vice versa.

So tetanus vaccines are bad because they defeat the whole purpose of tetanus existing?

That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

[Norstal]

Why wouldn't you?

Because it defeats the whole purpose. Evolution is meant to happen over several generations to be perfect when necessary. When you speed it up you're creating an almost new species in a world that's not ready for it. Or vice versa.

Who says the underline? You're not a god.

[Divair]

So tetanus vaccines are bad because they defeat the whole purpose of tetanus existing?

That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

You claim something existing has a purpose, and thus that purpose must not be broken. Tetanus exists, thus it has a purpose. Why are you for tetanus vaccines? That defeats the whole purpose.

[Ordya]

It depends on how those are achieved, but removing death is not a good thing.

Says who?

Anyone who realizes how utterly pointless and boring life would be without death.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Why wouldn't you?

Because it defeats the whole purpose. Evolution is meant to happen over several generations to be perfect when necessary. When you speed it up you're creating an almost new species in a world that's not ready for it. Or vice versa.

Uh... evolution isn't about "to be perfect when necessary".

[Divair]

Anyone who realizes how utterly pointless and boring life would be without death.

And if you end up being bored and find nothing to do, you can go die (no offense, that's what we're discussing). Don't force your views upon others.

[Ordya]

That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

You claim something existing has a purpose, and thus that purpose must not be broken. Tetanus exists, thus it has a purpose. Why are you for tetanus vaccines? That defeats the whole purpose.

Where did I say that?

[Seperates]

That's why we have this thing called, "evolution."

Transhumanism is about evolution, it's just an idea that you can force it along at a faster pace.

Eh... kinda, but not really, since evolution is primarily driven by genetics, with enviormental factors being the final say of success in reproduction. Transhumanism falls under a variety of things, stemming from eugenics, robotics, progressive technologists, and other areas that don't really deal with ecosystems and reproduction.

You can't really 'force' evolution, because it's effectivness and helpfullness is purely based on the enviorment which the mutation occurs within.

[Norstal]

Says who?

Anyone who realizes how utterly pointless and boring life would be without death.

Maybe we like pointlessness.

[Divair]

Where did I say that?

When you claimed that evolution has a purpose and breaking that purpose is bad.

[Ordya]

Because it defeats the whole purpose. Evolution is meant to happen over several generations to be perfect when necessary. When you speed it up you're creating an almost new species in a world that's not ready for it. Or vice versa.

Who says the underline? You're not a god.

No, I just understand how evolution works.

(Actually, according to a small island nation, I am a god!)

[Ordya]

Where did I say that?

When you claimed that evolution has a purpose and breaking that purpose is bad.

Breaking the purpose of evolution is bad because it effects the species negatively by changing it when it shouldn't be changed.

[Divair]

Breaking the purpose of evolution is bad because it effects the species negatively by changing it when it shouldn't be changed.

How is fixing problems and improving our condition affecting the species negatively?

[Norstal]

Who says the underline? You're not a god.

No, I just understand how evolution works.

(Actually, according to a small island nation, I am a god!)

Then you should've known that homeostasis isn't perfection in any way it's defined.

[Ordya]

Anyone who realizes how utterly pointless and boring life would be without death.

Maybe we like pointlessness.

If that's how you wanna live your life, fine. Just don't change an entire species so the rest of us have to live like that.

[Conserative Morality]

Why wouldn't you?

Because, at some point, one becomes something other than human.

[Ordya]

Breaking the purpose of evolution is bad because it effects the species negatively by changing it when it shouldn't be changed.

How is fixing problems and improving our condition affecting the species negatively?

Problems like what, for instance?

[Divair]

Why wouldn't you?

Because, at some point, one becomes something other than human.

So? If you wanted to go so far that you become something else, why should I care?

[Norstal]

Maybe we like pointlessness.

If that's how you wanna live your life, fine. Just don't change an entire species so the rest of us have to live like that.

You have a very odd way of looking at how biology works.

[Divair]

How is fixing problems and improving our condition affecting the species negatively?

Problems like what, for instance?

Cancer. Genetic diseases. Disabilities. Stupidity. Death (this one is optional, of course).