The best alternative fuel

[Armenia II]

And oxygen.

Requires sourcing the carbon and oxygen, bonding, etc etc. Tougher tanks for the stuff is my preference. Or carbon nanotube batteries would work too, I guess.

We haven't cared before, why start now?

I hope you're joking, but in case not - because we only didn't care before because we didn't know the full consequences of our actions. Now, we do. It's like why various medical treatments that had some positive impact were ditched - the negative impact was discovered to be rather large as opposed to nonexistent.

Quote #1: We were talking about fossil fuels, XD

Quote #2: I was kidding.

[Eoghania]

Requires sourcing the carbon and oxygen, bonding, etc etc. Tougher tanks for the stuff is my preference. Or carbon nanotube batteries would work too, I guess.


I hope you're joking, but in case not - because we only didn't care before because we didn't know the full consequences of our actions. Now, we do. It's like why various medical treatments that had some positive impact were ditched - the negative impact was discovered to be rather large as opposed to nonexistent.

Quote #1: We were talking about fossil fuels, XD

Quote #2: I was kidding.

#1: I thought you were meaning synthesised organic chemicals.

#2: Was Jim?

[Great Nepal]

Petrol and diesel for cars.
Instead, generate electricity using nuclear which will cause oil to last longer.

[Xathranaar]

Stupidity.

If we can harness it's power, we would have an inexhaustible energy supply.

[Big Jim P]

Quote #1: We were talking about fossil fuels, XD

Quote #2: I was kidding.

#1: I thought you were meaning synthesised organic chemicals.

#2: Was Jim?

Indeed, was I?

[Big Jim P]

Why is combusting hydrogen dumb? I am assuming you mean using it as we use gasoline, in an internal combustion engine. That produces water vapor for exhaust. In fact, the only downside I can think of is a lack of energy density in hydrogen fuel.

Because it's a waste of a very expensive product when you could very well double the energy efficiency of the system by using it in a fuel cell instead.

True.

[Eoghania]

#1: I thought you were meaning synthesised organic chemicals.

#2: Was Jim?

Indeed, was I?

~insert twilight zone theme~

[Screensaver]

Petrol and diesel for cars.
Instead, generate electricity using nuclear which will cause oil to last longer.

But what if you are talking about the United States? They get most of their electricity from Coal and Natural Gas. Only 1% of their electricity is generated from petroleum fired power plants.

[Great Nepal]

Petrol and diesel for cars.
Instead, generate electricity using nuclear which will cause oil to last longer.

But what if you are talking about the United States? They get most of their electricity from Coal and Natural Gas. Only 1% of their electricity is generated from petroleum fired power plants.

Phase out coal and natural gas in favour of nuclear. Then, use petrol/diesel till it runs out after which use synthetic fuel produced from saved coal. Oh, and get out of US.

[Screensaver]

But what if you are talking about the United States? They get most of their electricity from Coal and Natural Gas. Only 1% of their electricity is generated from petroleum fired power plants.

Phase out coal and natural gas in favour of nuclear. Then, use petrol/diesel till it runs out after which use synthetic fuel produced from saved coal. Oh, and get out of US.

What if I am not in the US? And Uranium is non-renewable and fusion reactor technology could very well be decades away and there is the possibility that we might never be able to get it to work.

[Immoren]

Phase out coal and natural gas in favour of nuclear. Then, use petrol/diesel till it runs out after which use synthetic fuel produced from saved coal. Oh, and get out of US.

What if I am not in the US? And Uranium is non-renewable and fusion reactor technology could very well be decades away and there is the possibility that we might never be able to get it to work.

THooriiiuuum.

[Ashihara no Nakatsukuni]

Biofuels for now seems the most feasible. Hydrogen needs to be produced cleaner, and easier to transport and supply before it will get widely adapted. Electricity is supplied through dirty power, is effected to much by weather (on the physical battery of the vehicle), but it still farther in infrastructure build up.

[Great Nepal]

Phase out coal and natural gas in favour of nuclear. Then, use petrol/diesel till it runs out after which use synthetic fuel produced from saved coal. Oh, and get out of US.

What if I am not in the US? And Uranium is non-renewable and fusion reactor technology could very well be decades away and there is the possibility that we might never be able to get it to work.

Hence why we developed breeders.

[Screensaver]

What if I am not in the US? And Uranium is non-renewable and fusion reactor technology could very well be decades away and there is the possibility that we might never be able to get it to work.

Hence why we developed breeders.

Which have yet to be available for large scale commercial use and may never be.

[The Serbian Empire]

Hence why we developed breeders.

Which have yet to be available for large scale commercial use and may never be.

A problem that also lies in the fuel tanks of hydrogen powered cars. Something that might be impossible to make is a fuel tank and fuel lines that will not crack or leak as a failure will be very destructive to the car. All the alternatives are flawed to a point that they may never be viable until the moment fossil fuels run out.

[The Corparation]

Hence why we developed breeders.

Which have yet to be available for large scale commercial use and may never be.

They never really built any commercial plants because they didn't need to. The technology is there, there was just no reason to do it as they had plenty of uranium ore to mine.

This also ignores the fact that we should ditch uranium for Thorium.

[Libertarian California]

We should pray for more fuel, and Jesus Christ, the one and true Son of God will give it to all who believe.

'Tis written in the most holiest Bible of Enron.

[Great Nepal]

Hence why we developed breeders.

Which have yet to be available for large scale commercial use and may never be.

It is available for large scale commercial use. People just dont because we have shitton of uranium.

[Sociobiology]

Phase out coal and natural gas in favour of nuclear. Then, use petrol/diesel till it runs out after which use synthetic fuel produced from saved coal. Oh, and get out of US.

What if I am not in the US? And Uranium is non-renewable and fusion reactor technology could very well be decades away and there is the possibility that we might never be able to get it to work.

none of the renewables will work, and being non-renewables is not much of a problem, especially since it is non-polluting.

[Sociobiology]

I want a bio-fuel generator attached to my toilet, fuck Green, go Brown!

An interesting idea, but I fear the body is too good at extracting all the usable energy from its food. Fecal matter is about equal parts bacteria (usable biomass, but inefficient to convert to fuel), dead colon cells (same as bacteria) and food residue. It would be incredibly expensive to refine that to any kind of usable fuel.

EDIT: Of course you could get a miniature methane generator like a water treatment plan uses, but no idea if that would produce enough biogas...

http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_trent_energy_from_floating_algae_pods.html

enough for a lot of things...

[Sociobiology]

Where do I start on this...

Alright, well.

Nuclear cars are a pipe dream. Although never refuelling again sounds like a swell idea, when you add together the weight of the reactor (which would have to be designed to resist severe impacts), the cooling mechanism (which would always have to be on), the radiation shielding and the turbine to generate electricity, it starts to be become apparent why this will never come to fruition.

for cars, with liquid salt reactors (which are orders of magnitude lighter) Could be used to power some heavy equipment instead of massive diesel generators.

My next car may be a hybrid if the bank approves my loan (and I choose to put myself in a lot of debt), but if not, the car I buy after it almost certainly will be.

why by a hybrid, you are buying two inefficient engines on one vehicle instead of one efficient one.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Where do I start on this...

Alright, well.

Nuclear cars are a pipe dream. Although never refuelling again sounds like a swell idea, when you add together the weight of the reactor (which would have to be designed to resist severe impacts), the cooling mechanism (which would always have to be on), the radiation shielding and the turbine to generate electricity, it starts to be become apparent why this will never come to fruition.

for cars, with liquid salt reactors (which are orders of magnitude lighter) Could be used to power some heavy equipment instead of massive diesel generators.

How heavy are we talking? If you're thinking ships, yes. If you're thinking freight trains, maybe. If you're thinking bulldozers, no.

My next car may be a hybrid if the bank approves my loan (and I choose to put myself in a lot of debt), but if not, the car I buy after it almost certainly will be.

why by a hybrid, you are buying two inefficient engines on one vehicle instead of one efficient one.

Do elaborate.

[Divair]

Petrol and diesel for cars.
Instead, generate electricity using nuclear which will cause oil to last longer.

Why use a polluting fuel when we can easily switch?

[The New Sea Territory]

Uranium.


Let's make a Uranium-235 powered car! Wrecks will be a thing of the past, because the wreck blows into a mushroom cloud!

[Big Jim P]

Petrol and diesel for cars.
Instead, generate electricity using nuclear which will cause oil to last longer.

But what if you are talking about the United States? They get most of their electricity from Coal and Natural Gas. Only 1% of their electricity is generated from petroleum fired power plants.

I get a good portion of mine from Niagara Falls.