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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:56 pm

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Northern Skatchbrod wrote:And you are calling my buddy a rapist simply because the girl claimed so. Genius.

I don't know about Individuality-ness, but I'm calling your friend fictional. The girl he says he didn't rape probably isn't real either. I bet this noisy nightclub that has bedrooms also only exists in your mind.

If anything, I would think he's projecting it onto his "friend" to see how far his bullshit would go.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:57 pm

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Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.


If they found him innocent and he was giving testimony about how his friend was raped would you assume she was lying?
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Postby Nadkor » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:58 pm

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Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.


If they found him innocent and he was giving testimony about how his friend was raped would you assume she was lying?


Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 pm

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According to the woman and the false evidence.


Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.

This is like a sea. If I answer, you will simply call more shitstorm. I don't like shitstorms, thus I am forced to agree with the majority that I've lost.

Now you can all stop. I can't handle 100 post/minute.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 pm

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If they found him innocent and he was giving testimony about how his friend was raped would you assume she was lying?


Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.

Answer him.
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Postby Puah-Puah Kepulauan » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 pm

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Northern Skatchbrod wrote:A ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence.

And some bystanders' words who didn't see the act are much better.

Yes, but then again the accuser has to prove. Which actually makes me wondering how a woman can prove to be raped when, as Northern Skatchbord adventurously portrayed, there are only 'a ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence'?

However, I'd just concure with that:
Des-Bal wrote:I'd wager there was more than that and realistically there's no reason to trust you to deliver the full account. If you give us his name, her name, and the state it was in we can probably find all the facts.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:59 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.

This is like a sea. If I answer, you will simply call more shitstorm. I don't like shitstorms, thus I am forced to agree with the majority that I've lost.

Now you can all stop. I can't handle 100 post/minute.

If shitstorm = arguments, then yes.

We'll shit all over you.

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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:00 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.


Still not a rape apologist. Still I'll take that as a no. The fact that you acknowledge you're own bias is good enough for me.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:00 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.

This is like a sea. If I answer, you will simply call more shitstorm. I don't like shitstorms, thus I am forced to agree with the majority that I've lost.

Now you can all stop. I can't handle 100 post/minute.


I don't like shitposts. Especially not shitposts apologising for rape (something there's been a disturbing and remarkable increase of in the past week or so I'll add).
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:00 pm

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Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.

Answer him.
Right after you provide case details beyond your anecdote, well what can be released to the public anyway. Even a court docket number, something.
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Postby Nadkor » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.

Answer him.


Nope.

Well, that was easy.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.

Answer him.

Weren't you leaving the thread?

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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Because of all the inconvenience, I must post my whole opinion about rape.

Rape is bad. Men and women who do it are bad, and should always feel bad. Men and women who accuse people of rape, do the right thing. Men and women why lie about being raped, are bad and should always feel bad.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

By the way, courts do not find people innocent. They find people not guilty.
There is a difference.


Guilty -> Accusations are proven
Not Guilty -> Accusations are not proven
NOT -> Accusations are proven to be false

We de-facto DO assume he is innocent until he is guilty, but we do not assume someone is lying with the accusation either.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:This is like a sea. If I answer, you will simply call more shitstorm. I don't like shitstorms, thus I am forced to agree with the majority that I've lost.

Now you can all stop. I can't handle 100 post/minute.


Then help us find the facts of the case. Give their names and the state they were in.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Answer him.


Nope.

Well, that was easy.

Well, that was childish.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Answer him.

Weren't you leaving the thread?

I left the debate about the false rape accusation.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Because of all the inconvenience, I must post my whole opinion about rape.

Rape is bad. Men and women who do it are bad, and should always feel bad. Men and women who accuse people of rape, do the right thing. Men and women why lie about being raped, are bad and should always feel bad.

This thread is about what rape is, not whether you think it's bad.

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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Because of all the inconvenience, I must post my whole opinion about rape.

Rape is bad. Men and women who do it are bad, and should always feel bad. Men and women who accuse people of rape, do the right thing. Men and women why lie about being raped, are bad and should always feel bad.

This thread is about what rape is, not whether you think it's bad.

Rape is bad.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Because of all the inconvenience, I must post my whole opinion about rape.

Rape is bad. Men and women who do it are bad, and should always feel bad. Men and women who accuse people of rape, do the right thing. Men and women why lie about being raped, are bad and should always feel bad.

That was a whole lot of writing. Thank you for going the extra mile.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:02 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Sorry, rape apologist. Not interested.

Answer him.


I think you have a pretty delusional estimation of the authority you wield.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I left the debate about the false rape accusation.


Which is odd because the entire thing can be resolved by giving us a few details.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:By the way, courts do not find people innocent. They find people not guilty.
There is a difference.


Guilty -> Accusations are proven
Not Guilty -> Accusations are not proven
NOT -> Accusations are proven to be false

We de-facto DO assume he is innocent until he is guilty, but we do not assume someone is lying with the accusation either.

Some courts do, in fact, find people innocent.

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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I left the debate about the false rape accusation.


Which is odd because the entire thing can be resolved by giving us a few details.

I already did.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:04 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Answer him.


That's a pretty delusional estimation of the authority you wield right there.

I've answered him/her. It's her turn not to be childish.
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