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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:49 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:Actually, it's probably closer to 10 or 12. Including someone who pasted the entire lyrics of this song.


More like 7. I counted them when I consolidated them in a single post to berate someone for making the joke again.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:49 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:And you are calling my buddy a rapist simply because the girl claimed so. Genius.

He was fucking convicted. You know why a case goes to trial? Because there was enough evidence for there to be a case.

A ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence.
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Postby Pacelm » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:50 pm

It's a pretty dumb question

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Postby Evraim » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:50 pm

Esternial wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I dropped one sentence that some men are falsely accused

Mitt, is that you?

Mitt? I'm confused...

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Actually, it's probably closer to 10 or 12. Including someone who pasted the entire lyrics of this song.

More like 7. I counted them when I consolidated them in a single post to berate someone for making the joke again.

Must be overestimating.

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Individuality-ness wrote:He was fucking convicted. You know why a case goes to trial? Because there was enough evidence for there to be a case.

A ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence.

Were you there at the presumed trial? Did you see what the prosecution had? Or are you making stuff up just so that you can paint all rape victims as horny promiscuous sluts who only have sex and then report them for rape to fuck with men?
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:A ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence.


I'd wager there was more than that and realistically there's no reason to trust you to deliver the full account. If you give us his name, her name, and the state it was in we can probably find all the facts.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:He was fucking convicted. You know why a case goes to trial? Because there was enough evidence for there to be a case.

A ruffled bed, semen and her words are quite the evidence.

And some bystanders' words who didn't see the act are much better.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:51 pm

I'll leave the thread before my bad knowing of English and you people misunderstanding it mix again. Thank you all for a good debate and other viewpoints.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:Must be overestimating.

I didn't count the dozens of people who immediately responded to those people by saying "lol I was just thinking that."
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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I'll leave the thread before my bad knowing of English and you people misunderstanding it mix again. Thank you all for a good debate and other viewpoints.

Debate? :rofl: More like "I'm going to paint all rape victims as sluts! Go MEN!"
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

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Evraim wrote:I'm a conservative. I just happen not to like rape apologists or their arguments.

I think both sides could come to an agreement on two things:
- "Israel is good."
- "Rape is bad and people who apologize for it should feel bad."

Fuck no on the first part, thank you.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Evraim wrote:
Esternial wrote:Mitt, is that you?

Mitt? I'm confused...

Some guy who changes his position all the time. Forgot the rest of his name.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Must be overestimating.

I didn't count the dozens of people who immediately responded to those people by saying "lol I was just thinking that."

Ah, okay, makes sense.
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Postby Evraim » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Fuck that guy.


What did he ever do to you?

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:Also, I agree that rape is bad, and men should be sentenced off it, but those who are falsely accused should be remembered.

Men and women. I agree with everything else, though the example you selected seems lackluster.

Esternial wrote:
Evraim wrote:Mitt? I'm confused...

Some guy who changes his position all the time. Forgot the rest of his name.

Oh, Willard! He had a decent excuse though.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I'll leave the thread before my bad knowing of English and you people misunderstanding it mix again. Thank you all for a good debate and other viewpoints.


You could give us the information necessary to find the background on the case so it's no longer possible for you to misrepresent facts.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:And I side with anyone who's ever been hurt by another person regardless of their plumbing, but never to the detriment of the law or to anyone else.

The fact that you make these assertions because it's your "friend" who is in trouble demonstrates the severe bias on your part. For the record, flirting does not mean instant consent, no means no, and since you weren't in the room when the act allegedly did or did not happen you have no basis for your claims beyond your feelings.


Then should we just ignore the men who are falsely accused? Please, tell me what proof about rape is semen, a ruffled bed and a woman's words? He shouldn't be in jail, that I know.
Ooooh ok, so you were in the room with a video tape recording the entire event, therefore there's your proof?.... gee I hope you got both of their consent to fill them.

You weren't in the room, you weren't privy to went on. For all you really know, she could have said stop multiple times and he ignored it. You don't know and your insistence that your "buddy" isn't guilty just on your good word is does not make for any sort of valid legal defense despite your insistence otherwise. Do you know what evidence the police collected? Are you his legal defense and have access to the evidence under legal precedent? Are you a private investigator?

I have never stated that men aren't falsely accused of rape, ever. I've been hit with a false paternity suit. So by your logic then the vast majority of women who do file such suits are just as guilty as the one, statistics be damned, oh no the "system is unfair" and "because I say so" and so on and so forth.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:52 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:I'll leave the thread before my bad knowing of English and you people misunderstanding it mix again. Thank you all for a good debate and other viewpoints.

Debate? :rofl: More like "I'm going to paint all rape victims as sluts! Go MEN!"

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Postby Nadkor » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:53 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Because obviously if a girl is slutty she was just "asking for it" of course! *roll*

And you are calling my buddy a rapist simply because the girl claimed so. Genius.


No, I'll call him a rapist because, according to you, he was convicted by a court of law of raping a woman.

So I'll call him a rapist because that's what he is. He is a rapist.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:53 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
That's the sixth fucking time someone's made that joke.


I came into this thread to make that joke.

Should have used a condom.
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Postby Northern Skatchbrod » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:54 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Northern Skatchbrod wrote:And you are calling my buddy a rapist simply because the girl claimed so. Genius.


No, I'll call him a rapist because, according to you, he was convicted of raping a woman.

So I'll call him a rapist because that's what he is. He is a rapist.


According to the woman and the false evidence.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:55 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Because obviously if a girl is slutty she was just "asking for it" of course! *roll*

And you are calling my buddy a rapist simply because the girl claimed so. Genius.

I don't know about Individuality-ness, but I'm calling your friend fictional. The girl he says he didn't rape probably isn't real either. I bet this noisy nightclub that has bedrooms also only exists in your mind.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:55 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, I'll call him a rapist because, according to you, he was convicted of raping a woman.

So I'll call him a rapist because that's what he is. He is a rapist.


According to the woman and the false evidence.


According to 12 impartial jurors who reviewed that evidence, and the rule of law.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:55 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
According to the woman and the false evidence.


Tell us the information on the case and I will personally dig for it until we can find the full account.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:56 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, I'll call him a rapist because, according to you, he was convicted of raping a woman.

So I'll call him a rapist because that's what he is. He is a rapist.


According to the woman and the false evidence.

And the jury.

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Postby Nadkor » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:56 pm

Northern Skatchbrod wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, I'll call him a rapist because, according to you, he was convicted of raping a woman.

So I'll call him a rapist because that's what he is. He is a rapist.


According to the woman and the false evidence.


Excuse me if I'm more inclined to believe that the court got it right than I am to believe you when you're sticking up for your rapist friend.
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