Men need to be trained to not rape.

[Individuality-ness]

He must really like getting whooped then.

Maybe he likes pain.

That explains a lot. Although with his twisted view on consent I would not wish him to join a kink community.

[Ifreann]

...but it isn't rape unless consent was clearly withdrawn.

Yes it is.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why the fuck are you still here.

Because I'm not going to back down simply because a bunch of fascists decide I lost simply because they think they can pull facts out of their asses.

So now we're fascists for correcting you on your erroneous assumptions?

I get no respect.

[Conserative Morality]

Because I'm not going to back down simply because a bunch of fascists decide I lost simply because they think they can pull facts out of their asses.

Fuck those fascists, claiming that a lack of consent is not consent, amirite?

[The Steel Magnolia]

Why the fuck are you still here.

Because I'm not going to back down simply because a bunch of fascists decide I lost simply because they think they can pull facts out of their asses.

We're fascists for demanding you don't get to rape people?

Then I'm a fascist and I'm goddamn proud of it.

[Individuality-ness]

I bring up my past example of how this is just plain stupid.
Scumbag roofies a girl at a party, girl is unconscious, can't talk and therefore can't withdraw consent. Scumbag fucks her brains out, she's powerless to stop him.
By your definition this would not be rape. Do you see the problem with your theory yet?

No and that shouldn't be rape. That should be classified as unlawful coercion.

[The Steel Magnolia]

He must really like getting whooped then.

Maybe he likes pain.

I'm tempted to give it to him.

[Nadkor]

Actually a women can lead a man on, it has happened to me. I thought she loved me but she was just using me; I has led to me attempting to commit suicide twice and I have developed depression. So yes, that does happen, a lot. I'm not suggesting that those women deserve to be raped, but it isn't rape unless consent was clearly withdrawn.

I bring up my past example of how this is just plain stupid.
Scumbag roofies a girl at a party, girl is unconscious, can't talk and therefore can't withdraw consent. Scumbag fucks her brains out, she's powerless to stop him.
By your definition this would not be rape. Do you see the problem with your theory yet?

Oh, don't worry. His 'theory' has already been destroyed, and the fact that his adherence to it makes him a potential rapist without realising it has already been pointed out.

He's entirely failed to respond to it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Maybe he likes pain.

That explains a lot. Although with his twisted view on consent I would not wish him to join a kink community.

He would be banned in less than a month.

And I'm being kind.

[Aurumaquaria]

Yes, what a splendid idea! Just like we can train people not to steal and murder!

[Nadkor]

I bring up my past example of how this is just plain stupid.
Scumbag roofies a girl at a party, girl is unconscious, can't talk and therefore can't withdraw consent. Scumbag fucks her brains out, she's powerless to stop him.
By your definition this would not be rape. Do you see the problem with your theory yet?

No and that shouldn't be rape. That should be classified as unlawful coercion.

I don't even...

How old are you?

[Ifreann]

Why the fuck are you still here.

Because I'm not going to back down simply because a bunch of fascists decide I lost simply because they think they can pull facts out of their asses.

Don't worry, we asked our asses for consent first.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Maybe he likes pain.

I'm tempted to give it to him.

And I'm all for it, love.

[Free Council Communes]

Actually a women can lead a man on, it has happened to me. I thought she loved me but she was just using me; I has led to me attempting to commit suicide twice and I have developed depression. So yes, that does happen, a lot. I'm not suggesting that those women deserve to be raped, but it isn't rape unless consent was clearly withdrawn.

I have no idea how your story is relevant. Are you suggesting that you raped your ex, and now feel depressed about it?

No, I am not. What I am saying is it is just plain offensive to suggest that women don't lead men on.

[Individuality-ness]

That explains a lot. Although with his twisted view on consent I would not wish him to join a kink community.

He would be banned in less than a month.

And I'm being kind.

I've heard that some communities would try to "protect" them though. >.>

[The Steel Magnolia]

Yes, what a splendid idea! Just like we can train people not to steal and murder!

Yes, exactly. With early childhood and teenage education on consent and healthy relationships, absolutely.

[Aurumaquaria]

Yes, what a splendid idea! Just like we can train people not to steal and murder!

Yes, exactly. With early childhood and teenage education on consent and healthy relationships, absolutely.

We all know that people only commit crimes because they don't know that what they're doing is wrong...

[Individuality-ness]

Yes, what a splendid idea! Just like we can train people not to steal and murder!

The bullshitting and ignorance on the issue is high in this one.

[Liriena]

The very idea that a woman can "lead a man on" through her behaviour, dress, or actions. If she consents to a blowjob, she's not consenting to anything else.

Actually a women can lead a man on, it has happened to me. I thought she loved me but she was just using me; I has led to me attempting to commit suicide twice and I have developed depression. So yes, that does happen, a lot. I'm not suggesting that those women deserve to be raped, but it isn't rape unless consent was clearly withdrawn.

I am truly sorry for what happened to you.

But I must once again expose the blatant stupidity of the argument:

it isn't rape unless consent was clearly withdrawn

If a woman is drugged, asleep, or too intoxicated to think, let alone talk, are you seriously going to tell me it's not rape if I fuck her? And sometimes a woman can be threatened or manipulated into sex. Is that not rape as well?

If a woman did not directly and explicitly consent (at the very least through dirty talk) then you can't fuck her. It's rape if you do so, and no spinning of the facts, no mental gymnastics will change the fact that you raped her.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

He would be banned in less than a month.

And I'm being kind.

I've heard that some communities would try to "protect" them though. >.>

I can't vouch for every kink community out there. But the ones I frequent, he would be banned in no time.

[New Edom]

I think what he's trying to say is that once a couple have agreed to have sex that it would only be rape if after the fact consent was withdrawn. That's simply legally true.

[The Steel Magnolia]

I'm tempted to give it to him.

And I'm all for it, love.

Oh, but my rap sheet is so, deliciously clean. I'm quite tempted to dirty it for him however. After all. He clearly deserves it, he's posting in such a provocative manner, and why, he never said no!

[Ifreann]

Yes, what a splendid idea! Just like we can train people not to steal and murder!

If we could, why wouldn't we?

[Individuality-ness]

I've heard that some communities would try to "protect" them though. >.>

I can't vouch for every kink community out there. But the ones I frequent, he would be banned in no time.

You are in a good community then Nana.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Yes, exactly. With early childhood and teenage education on consent and healthy relationships, absolutely.

We all know that people only commit crimes because they don't know that what they're doing is wrong...

In the case of rape, sure. It happens a lot, actually.