Men need to be trained to not rape.

[Conserative Morality]

Prison rapes. Which are committed by men. Who rape men for largely the same reasons they rape women. Hence addressing this issue without fussing about to change the verbiage to match EVERYONE's specific tastes will improve this situation as well.

Follow the conversation back a bit. This side-conversation branched off from a specific post in the thread, not the OP.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Because Womens' Rights are Human Rights possibly.

But rape isn't a womens' rights issue. Women being the main targets of something doesn't make it a womens' rights issue.

I can taste the cognitive dissonance here.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

But rape isn't a womens' rights issue. Women being the main targets of something doesn't make it a womens' rights issue.

I can taste the cognitive dissonance here.

Tastes like shit, doesn't it?

[Liriena]

...yes?

I'm not sure what you think a "women's rights issue" is such that "crimes that disproportionately affect women are issues that people concerned with women's rights might want to address" is supposed to be some kind of ridiculous statement.

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

If women were being robbed due to ignorant preconceptions from the culprits regarding the worth of women and their supposed social and cultural role?

YES

[Nadkor]

Wuuuuutt?!?!?

You can't possibly be serious!

So no logical argument there. Don't post if you have nothing to contribute other than "Wuuuuutt?"

You have been so utterly demolished by a succession of posters that it's really all anybody has left.

I mean, half of the astonishment is presumably because you're still actually bothering after the ass-whooping you've taken.

[Free Council Communes]

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

Yes. Why is this hard to grasp?

Then why don't I see feminists whining about muggery?
An issue should matter of it effects people, regardless of sex.

[Liriena]

I can taste the cognitive dissonance here.

Tastes like shit, doesn't it?

Tastes like that one rotten French fry I at once, during a family trip to Tandil.

[Ifreann]

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

Sure. Why on earth wouldn't it be? If women were being disproportionately targeted for robbery, why would someone concerned with women's rights NOT address that?

Because men get robbed too, I imagine.

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I can't wait for the socialist revolution! All the counterrevolutionaries (like radical feminists) we be executed in democratic revolutionary trials. I'm also going to assume I can call rape if a women doesn't ask first and simply assumes I'm consenting because I seem to be going with it.

Since when was "teach everyone about consent" radical?

Since this Free Council Communes chap got it into his head that he can assume that every man and woman on Earth wants to fuck him until proven otherwise.

[Eliasonia]

...yes?

I'm not sure what you think a "women's rights issue" is such that "crimes that disproportionately affect women are issues that people concerned with women's rights might want to address" is supposed to be some kind of ridiculous statement.

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

Yeah.

[Individuality-ness]

Since when was "teach everyone about consent" radical?

Since this Free Council Communes chap got it into his head that he can assume that every man and woman on Earth wants to fuck him until proven otherwise.

Lovely.

[Zweite Alaje]

Wuuuuutt?!?!?

You can't possibly be serious!

So no logical argument there. Don't post if you have nothing to contribute other than "Wuuuuutt?"

Noob tells a Generalite with almost 5k posts "he doesn't contribute".

Dude, I seriously would have choice words for you as a supposed socialist, but this is about rape so yeah.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Tastes like shit, doesn't it?

Tastes like that one rotten French fry I at once, during a family trip to Tandil.

What concerns me is that the rotteness keeps disgorging words in this thread. And the wafting scent of manholes are choking me with their turd-y scent.

[Mavorpen]

Yes. Why is this hard to grasp?

Then why don't I see feminists whining about muggery?
An issue should matter of it effects people, regardless of sex.

And? How the fuck does declaring something a Women's Rights issue prevent men from rallying against it as well? Unless women are legislating that men cannot defend themselves from rape, you're making the shittiest argument ever.

[Free Council Communes]

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

If women were being robbed due to ignorant preconceptions from the culprits regarding the worth of women and their supposed social and cultural role?

YES

But women aren't being raped due to ignorant perceptions from rapists. That is a bourgeois lie used to demonize working men and cause infighting against the proletariat!

[Nadkor]

Since this Free Council Communes chap got it into his head that he can assume that every man and woman on Earth wants to fuck him until proven otherwise.

You know, on the off chance that I ever met Free Council Communes without realising it and in the interests of avoiding being raped by him let me make something clear:

Free Council Communes, I do not give you consent to have sex with me.

[Individuality-ness]

Since this Free Council Communes chap got it into his head that he can assume that every man and woman on Earth wants to fuck him until proven otherwise.

You know, on the off chance that I ever met Free Council Communes without realising it and in the interests of avoiding being raped by him let me make something clear:

Free Council Communes, I do not give you consent to have sex with me.

You think he'd even recognize you on the streets?

[Nadkor]

If women were being robbed due to ignorant preconceptions from the culprits regarding the worth of women and their supposed social and cultural role?

YES

But women aren't being raped due to ignorant perceptions from rapists. That is a bourgeois lie used to demonize working men and cause infighting against the proletariat!

Was...was that a shark you just jumped?

[Individuality-ness]

But women aren't being raped due to ignorant perceptions from rapists. That is a bourgeois lie used to demonize working men and cause infighting against the proletariat!

Was...was that a shark you just jumped?

No, it was the entire width of the Mississippi river.

[Nadkor]

You know, on the off chance that I ever met Free Council Communes without realising it and in the interests of avoiding being raped by him let me make something clear:

Free Council Communes, I do not give you consent to have sex with me.

You think he'd even recognize you on the streets?

I'm pretty sure my photo is floating around here somewhere. Best to just be sure he knows where I stand, just in case.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

If women were being robbed due to ignorant preconceptions from the culprits regarding the worth of women and their supposed social and cultural role?

YES

But women aren't being raped due to ignorant perceptions from rapists. That is a bourgeois lie used to demonize working men and cause infighting against the proletariat!

Er, yes they are. Women are being raped because some rapists are ignorant of what rape is or constitutes.

Where's that Neo Art post. damn it?

[Saint Jade IV]

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With statistics like these, you deny the fact that people need to be trained not to rape.

As for the use of "men" in the title, that's because it's ingrained in our culture that it's okay for men to rape. It isn't ingrained in our culture that it's okay for women to rape.

I dare you to give an example of one cultural phenomena promoting rape.

There's plenty.

For one, Ms Maxwell was threatened with rape over her comments. The irony in that is that she was making those comments as a victim of the very crime she was now being threatened with again.

The constant background hum every time a rape case is reported on, like the comments of Spida Everitt - "If he's asking you upstairs at 3 am, it's not for a cup of milo." implying that if women do go upstairs, they've consented to sex.

The very idea that a woman can "lead a man on" through her behaviour, dress, or actions. If she consents to a blowjob, she's not consenting to anything else.

Judges who make statements in sentencing like the ones in these cases:
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/judge-ra ... -dvyp.html[/url]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/judge-questions-if-drunken-sex-was-a-technical-rape/story-e6freo8c-1225753064957

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/rape-laws-fury/story-e6frf7jo-1226075258315

[Free Council Communes]

Then why don't I see feminists whining about muggery?
An issue should matter of it effects people, regardless of sex.

And? How the fuck does declaring something a Women's Rights issue prevent men from rallying against it as well? Unless women are legislating that men cannot defend themselves from rape, you're making the shittiest argument ever.

But women can defend themselves from rape! It would be sexist to think that women are weak and defenseless.

[Freelanderness]

So if mainly women were robbed; robbery would be a womens' rights issue?

No, it's more about issues generally unique to women. Men are rarely victims of rape....outside of prison atleast.

Actually, boys are at a very high risk for sexual violence. 1 in 6.

[Individuality-ness]

You think he'd even recognize you on the streets?

I'm pretty sure my photo is floating around here somewhere. Best to just be sure he knows where I stand, just in case.

In that case, might as well say that I hereby revoke consent to having sex with Free Council Communes. I have higher standards.

[Eliasonia]

Yes. Why is this hard to grasp?

Then why don't I see feminists whining about muggery?
An issue should matter of it effects people, regardless of sex.

If you seriously believed that viewpoint, why did you come in here trying to pin the blame on rape victims and start spewing anti-feminist quasi faux socialist bs?