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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:16 pm

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:Uh, Gravlen, you forget. According to this logic, the woman IS a child.

Child support can also be paid to the father (of course not in all countries, though).

o<----- The joke









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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:17 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Gravlen wrote:What unequal situation?

You... do realize that men also get custody, and that women have to pay child support in those cases, right?


I don't know where you live, but it most certainly isn't like that in my state - even if the wife was physically and emotionally abusive to the husband. Doesn't matter.

:unsure:

Bullshit.

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm

Gallowfield wrote:Extremist feminists and MRAs make me want to huff exorbitant amounts of paint thinner so that I can understand their frame of mind.


Tell us about these extremist feminists you see ITT.

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm

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Snafturi wrote:Well, you can delay the penis falling off if you constantly say "NO homo!" So theoretically you can. But conversation would be limited.

I'd rather be female then, even if it means I have to hate sex now. This sucks. :(


I'm male and I hate sex. How do you think I feel? I don't even know what I am anymore :(
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Gravlen wrote:What unequal situation?

You... do realize that men also get custody, and that women have to pay child support in those cases, right?


I don't know where you live, but it most certainly isn't like that in my state - even if the wife was physically and emotionally abusive to the husband. Doesn't matter.

:unsure:

Bullshit.
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 pm

Choronzon wrote:
East Williamsburg wrote:
I don't know where you live, but it most certainly isn't like that in my state - even if the wife was physically and emotionally abusive to the husband. Doesn't matter.

:unsure:

Bullshit.

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Postby Arcade » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:19 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Arcade wrote:Child support can also be paid to the father (of course not in all countries, though).

o<----- The joke

For a second, I wondered if it was a joke.
Than I realized it's not funny and it's probably meant serious.

What a total misunderstanding.

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:19 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:Extremist feminists and MRAs make me want to huff exorbitant amounts of paint thinner so that I can understand their frame of mind.


Tell us about these extremist feminists you see ITT.


None, posters were talking about extremists they had talked with in the past. Fortunately, we're pretty idiot-free at the moment. I like days like today :)
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Flavionia wrote:wouldn't that just let females act like sluts and hold men accountable


I. What.

What the fucking fuck.

Just.

What the fuck.

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Postby Free Council Communes » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:
Also also, I have my own copy of 120 Days of Sodom here and, wouldn't you know it, the main characters are a bunch of dirty old rich white men who kidnap, imprison, torture, rape, abuse, and finally murder young teenage girls.

Like I said, as a Marxist he should have serious issues with de Sade.
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He was demonizing old, rich, white men. His protagonists were always elites, and he always made them horrible people. The whole point of doing this was to demonize the ruling class.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Arcade wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:o<----- The joke

For a second, I wondered if it was a joke.
Than I realized it's not funny and it's probably meant serious.

What a total misunderstanding.

Really? People treating women like children isn't funny? Do tell.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Choronzon wrote:This is totally false.

And as a Marxist you should have serious issues with the Marquis de Sade.

De Sade was a Jacobin, a proto-socialist. As a Marxist, I love de Sade.


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Having made the rounds of the party, informing just about everybody of exactly what his toy did, the guests moved on, where we actually engaged in real discussion of real issues like real adults.

This lasted for about 5 minutes before the child, having become quite distraught that he was no longer the center of attention, returned with yet another toy, to repeat the process.

I am suddenly reminded of that evening.
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:20 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I'd rather be female then, even if it means I have to hate sex now. This sucks. :(


I'm male and I hate sex. How do you think I feel? I don't even know what I am anymore :(

Indi: You can give your penis to him when you visit your friend, then get it back after.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:21 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Um, no. Consent should never be assumed.

Night already went back and said that he generalized too much and that he was mistaken.


Missed that, I'm just working through the pages I missed.

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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:21 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Like I said, as a Marxist he should have serious issues with de Sade.
:palm:
He was demonizing old, rich, white men. His protagonists were always elites, and he always made them horrible people. The whole point of doing this was to demonize the ruling class.

Tell me more about how its oppressive to not assume consent.
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Postby Arcada Xenon VI » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:22 pm

It must not be in all the music.

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Postby New haven america » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:23 pm

No, just no.
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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:23 pm

Snafturi wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:
I'm male and I hate sex. How do you think I feel? I don't even know what I am anymore :(

Indi: You can give your penis to him when you visit your friend, then get it back after.


I would appreciate that very much. I just checked, though, and it appears my penis is still there. But since that's apparently impossible, Occam's Razor would suggest that it's simply a growth filled with my abhorrent, unnatural asexuality.
Facts are arbitrary. Pleasure is the only truth.
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Here's why I prefer strength over brains- beating a computer at chess is hard, but beating a computer at kickboxing is something anyone can do.
Violence isn't the answer. It's a question and the answer is yes.

Someday, I shall meet Lian and learn the ways of Chinese martial arts, or die trying. More likely the latter, admittedly.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:23 pm

New haven america wrote:No, just no.


I'm guessing towney, not yaley.
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Postby Nadkor » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:24 pm

Magnanimitatumus wrote:Wow. Stupidity everywhere these days. Feminism USED to mean believing women to be equal to men. Now it's 'HUR DUR WOMEN BETTAH TEN MEN'


It is?

What, in this thread, gave you that impression?

And now they think rape is ingrained into us? That we think it is right? Wrrrroooooooong!


Who said that?
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:24 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I think the "protection status" he's refering to is those sweet hcild support payments which on average equal only to a small fraction of an equitable half of the cost of raising the actual child.


When has a woman paid child support to a single father again?

It happens quite often. Of the top of my head I can tell you that 30% of custodial single fathers were awarded child support in 2011. Do you want more accurate numbers from the US?
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:25 pm

Gallowfield wrote:
Snafturi wrote:Indi: You can give your penis to him when you visit your friend, then get it back after.


I would appreciate that very much. I just checked, though, and it appears my penis is still there. But since that's apparently impossible, Occam's Razor would suggest that it's simply a growth filled with my abhorrent, unnatural asexuality.

Exactly. Be careful though. When you have a real penis, you might be overcome with the urge to randomly rape people. Don't panic, this is a perfectly natural reaction and will pass.
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:25 pm

Avaerilon wrote:
Gravlen wrote:What unequal situation?

You... do realize that men also get custody, and that women have to pay child support in those cases, right?


To my knowledge, in the unlikely event a man gets child custody, a woman is not obliged to pay alimony.

You should educate yourself - or, if you happen to reside in Saudi Arabia, kindly point that out :)
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Free Council Communes » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:25 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote: :palm:
He was demonizing old, rich, white men. His protagonists were always elites, and he always made them horrible people. The whole point of doing this was to demonize the ruling class.

Tell me more about how its oppressive to not assume consent.

De Sade despised the elite. Even though he was an aristocrat, he became a revolutionary at the first chance he got. He despised priests & the ruling class. He wanted to show people that the nobility & Christianity was the real evil.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:26 pm

Snafturi wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:I'm male and I hate sex. How do you think I feel? I don't even know what I am anymore :(

Indi: You can give your penis to him when you visit your friend, then get it back after.

He's probably keep it. Did I forget to mention that my friend's gay?
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