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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 am

Condunum wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Your ignorance would be astounding if it wasn't par for the course among MRAs.

I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.

Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.

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Postby East Williamsburg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 am

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Nope. I'm saying that feminism is hypocritical. Feminists wants women to have all the benefits of emancipation in addition to the protected status left over from "the patriarchy". There are no feminists railing about getting child support payments.

What the fuck are you even... How is that EVEN REMOTELY related?


Because women are just weak, irrational beings incapable of supporting themselves, amirite? Even if I marry a woman who's making three times more than I am, she still gets .50 out of every dollar I earn because of her two X chromosomes if we separate. If feminists want women to be equal to men, let them try to abolish this unequal situation.

Crickets.
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:59 am

Choronzon wrote:
Condunum wrote:I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.

Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.

But he tried to relate this to them being a protected class. The fuck?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:59 am

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Condunum wrote:I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.

Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.


Jesus Christ. I mean, how evil and degraded has Western society become when people have to provide for their children?

It's clearly the fault of communism and/or feminism and/or Obama.
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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:59 am

East Williamsburg wrote:
Condunum wrote:What the fuck are you even... How is that EVEN REMOTELY related?


Because women are just weak, irrational beings incapable of supporting themselves, amirite? Even if I marry a woman who's making three times more than I am, she still gets .50 out of every dollar I earn because of her two X chromosomes if we separate. If feminists want women to be equal to men, let them try to abolish this unequal situation.

Crickets.


This is all "Patriarchy Hurts Men 101." Its a major component of feminism.

You're railing against something you don't understand. I'm embarrassed for you.

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Condunum wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Your ignorance would be astounding if it wasn't par for the course among MRAs.

I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.


Why do so many men think it's okay to abuse their wives/girlfriends? It terrifies me
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Postby Neo Art » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Condunum wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Your ignorance would be astounding if it wasn't par for the course among MRAs.

I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.


I think the "protection status" he's refering to is those sweet hcild support payments which on average equal only to a small fraction of an equitable half of the cost of raising the actual child.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Feminism is evil, ERGO feminists, by weighing in on rape and what it is, should be discounted as man-hating lesbians. QED.

I'm completely stumped. You got me. It's obvious I should rip my clothes off and run into the streets, declaring my dominance over you, the inferior sex. Or something like that.

I know right? Shall I submit to your authority, Condy?
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Postby East Williamsburg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Condunum wrote:I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.

Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.


Sperm donors shouldn't have to pay child support because of their gender to people they've never even had contact with. What's so hard to understand?
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:None of you are even feminists, by claiming that women are helpless damsels who need to be protected from the threat of rape is only reinforcing gender roles.


Says the man who thinks feminists should be lined up and shot.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:00 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Condunum wrote:What the fuck are you even... How is that EVEN REMOTELY related?


Because women are just weak, irrational beings incapable of supporting themselves, amirite? Even if I marry a woman who's making three times more than I am, she still gets .50 out of every dollar I earn because of her two X chromosomes if we separate. If feminists want women to be equal to men, let them try to abolish this unequal situation.

Crickets.

I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Know how you protect your money? Get a prenup. And a better fucking lawyer. And don't make her so spiteful of you because you're such a sexist. Know who does't get their money stripped from them? Divorcees who leave each other on good terms.
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Postby Flavionia » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

wouldn't that just let females act like sluts and hold men accountable
idk wut 2 put here

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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Condunum wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.

But he tried to relate this to them being a protected class. The fuck?

The courts sometimes determine that a woman cannot possibly care for her child, because shes a woman and so how could she possibly provide for her child without a big strong man?

Hes railing against patriarchy, but blaming it on feminism. Its the standard MRA refrain.

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Postby Neo Art » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Condunum wrote:What the fuck are you even... How is that EVEN REMOTELY related?


Because women are just weak, irrational beings incapable of supporting themselves, amirite? Even if I marry a woman who's making three times more than I am, she still gets .50 out of every dollar I earn because of her two X chromosomes if we separate. If feminists want women to be equal to men, let them try to abolish this unequal situation.

Crickets.


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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Flavionia wrote:wouldn't that just let females act like sluts and hold men accountable

Go away, grown ups are talking.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Condunum wrote:I want to know what he's talking about with this protection status. What protection status? That it's "bad to hit girls"?

Newsflash, fucker. It's bad to hit people. And with how much gender-based violence there is, I wouldn't for a second call them a protected sex.


I think the "protection status" he's refering to is those sweet hcild support payments which on average equal only to a small fraction of an equitable half of the cost of raising the actual child.

Child support rarely does justice to the price of raising a child.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Flavionia wrote:wouldn't that just let females act like sluts and hold men accountable

Because rape victims are sluts who were asking for it, amirite? :roll:
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Flavionia wrote:wouldn't that just let females act like sluts


I think I might actually explode.

and hold men accountable


Teaching the populace as a whole about consent and what rape is would not, funnily enough, make "only men accountable".
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Postby Bottle » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Condunum wrote:What the fuck are you even... How is that EVEN REMOTELY related?


Because women are just weak, irrational beings incapable of supporting themselves, amirite? Even if I marry a woman who's making three times more than I am, she still gets .50 out of every dollar I earn because of her two X chromosomes if we separate. If feminists want women to be equal to men, let them try to abolish this unequal situation.

Crickets.

Yes, if feminists want women to be equal to men (because that's not the DEFAULT status, after all, it's something that has to be GRANTED), then feminists must abolish something that doesn't exist.

Or did you have a citation to entertain us with?

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

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Millionaires and superheroes. You could argue that Batman is quite loony.

IN order for you to get the super hero bonus, the poster must provide solid proof that they have genuine empathy. Those are really, really long odds. Are you quite sure you want that wager?


Solid proof on the internet is quite difficult. But, I do want to have tights rather badly. You're on, good sir!
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Here's why I prefer strength over brains- beating a computer at chess is hard, but beating a computer at kickboxing is something anyone can do.
Violence isn't the answer. It's a question and the answer is yes.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Choronzon wrote:
Condunum wrote:But he tried to relate this to them being a protected class. The fuck?

The courts sometimes determine that a woman cannot possibly care for her child, because shes a woman and so how could she possibly provide for her child without a big strong man?

Hes railing against patriarchy, but blaming it on feminism. Its the standard MRA refrain.

I feel like we need to create a few bars for this. Perhaps a few dozen, layered with sixteenth notes so they can get all of their words out.
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.


Sperm donors shouldn't have to pay child support because of their gender to people they've never even had contact with. What's so hard to understand?

The facts of the case, apparently.

And how does this tie to rape?
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Postby Choronzon » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:02 pm

East Williamsburg wrote:
Choronzon wrote:Hes talking about child support, the greatest oppression of our time. Turns out to you don't get to absolve yourself of all responsibility for your child when you and the mother separate.

Poor dears.


Sperm donors shouldn't have to pay child support because of their gender to people they've never even had contact with. What's so hard to understand?

Yes yes, we all are fully aware that you totally don't understand that case.

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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:03 pm

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Nailed to the Perch wrote:So if Bottle is God, and I am both myself and also Bottle, does that mean I'm Feminist Jesus?

AWESOME.

*drops to knees* Feminist Jesus, please baptize me into your faith!


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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:03 pm

...This escalated quickly.

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