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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

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Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

Gravlen wrote:
Snafturi wrote:You know, I can imagine a sexy Abigail Adams. Sexy Ayn Rand just makes my lady parts flip inside out and atrophy.

Now you understand why you need a perpetual motion machine. Women are so demanding!

I have no idea what to do with this.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

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Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:Somehow, yes. You've been bested.

I am not sure whether this is a good thing or not.


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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

Gravlen wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*douses herself in lye*
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Also, Story of O wasn't written by de Sade. It was written by a de Sade fangirl.

Also also, I have my own copy of 120 Days of Sodom here and, wouldn't you know it, the main characters are a bunch of dirty old rich white men who kidnap, imprison, torture, rape, abuse, and finally murder young teenage girls.

Admirable, amirite? It's so totes anti-rape.

I think Free Communes is a serial killer.

120 Days of Sodom was a satire.


IMO, it was de Sade writing out his ridiculous sexual fantasies.

But the foreword does make a mention of it being satirical of the excesses of France at the time.

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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:26 am

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Individuality-ness wrote:Is that worse then the image of children's fingers deflowering?


Somehow, yes. You've been bested.

Yay! I win!!!!
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:27 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*douses herself in lye*

Is it now I say "You were clearly asking for it by hanging around the thread"? :p
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:27 am

Gravlen wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

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Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*


And on that note, my testicles just clocked out for the day....... :eek:
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:28 am

Gravlen wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

Is this revenge for something?
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:29 am

Gravlen wrote:
Snafturi wrote:You know, I can imagine a sexy Abigail Adams. Sexy Ayn Rand just makes my lady parts flip inside out and atrophy.

Now you understand why you need a perpetual motion machine. Women are so demanding!

Only if you're using to it power up those vibrators and the computer to look at the depraved porn they love so much.

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Individuality-ness wrote:AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*douses herself in lye*

Is it now I say "You were clearly asking for it by hanging around the thread"? :p

Yes. :P
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:29 am

Snafturi wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

Is this revenge for something?

Vaginal Prolapse.

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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:29 am

Gravlen wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

Look at how much of her neck is showing.

YOU KNOW SHE WANTS THAT LIBERTARIAN COCK.
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Postby Bottle » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:30 am

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Bottle wrote:Sure you can. Same way someone "sticks around" to finish using a Fleshlight, or a sex doll.

They're not balking at the idea of having a disinterested partner, because they don't believe sex is a partner activity in the first place. Sex is what penises do to vaginas. The vagina's experience is as irrelevant as that of the sock you use when the vagina is absent.


I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:30 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:120 Days of Sodom was a satire.


IMO, it was de Sade writing out his ridiculous sexual fantasies.

But the foreword does make a mention of it being satirical of the excesses of France at the time.

Most of the villain-protagonists in de Sade's fiction come from classes and occupations that he himself detested. He had a certain passion for sadomasochism in his own life, but he's not as wicked as he was made out to be.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:30 am

Gravlen wrote:
Gallowfield wrote:The thought of sexy Ayn Rand makes my testosterone levels drop rapidly :o

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Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*


Oh, come on you guys.

I find this kinda easy to fap to.

Even if she does look like my great-grandmother when she was 93.

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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:31 am

Condunum wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Image

Oh, the come hither look... *shiver*

Look at how much of her neck is showing.

YOU KNOW SHE WANTS THAT LIBERTARIAN COCK.


I don't think we need to know all of the things Ayn Rand wants.....
Facts are arbitrary. Pleasure is the only truth.
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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:31 am

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Snafturi wrote:Is this revenge for something?

Vaginal Prolapse.

It's not my fault Ayn Rand is *that* revolting.

Say...sounds like you're victim blaming. >>
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:32 am

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Neo Art wrote:
I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.

Your mind is a scary, scary place.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:32 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
IMO, it was de Sade writing out his ridiculous sexual fantasies.

But the foreword does make a mention of it being satirical of the excesses of France at the time.

Most of the villain-protagonists in de Sade's fiction come from classes and occupations that he himself detested. He had a certain passion for sadomasochism in his own life, but he's not as wicked as he was made out to be.


I'm kinda glad, at least.

It makes Free Communes look all the more dumber.

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Postby Bottle » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:33 am

Condunum wrote:
Bottle wrote:Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.

Your mind is a scary, scary place.

Oh, I cannot take credit for coming up with that kind of material. MRAs routinely impress me with their ability to exceed even my wildest imaginings of woman-hatery.
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Postby Neo Art » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:34 am

Bottle wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.


I guess it does somewhat explain the MRA mindset. I don't think you can avoid ending up at least a little bitter if you live your entire life believing that there's literally no woman in the entire world who could possibly enjoy having sex with you.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:34 am

Snafturi wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Vaginal Prolapse.

It's not my fault Ayn Rand is *that* revolting.

Say...sounds like you're victim blaming. >>

*gasp*

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Postby Snafturi » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:34 am

Bottle wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.

Sometime recently I read where some MRAs were saying they wouldn't drink or be drunk around women anymore because evil feminazis and false rape charges were ruining all the fun.

While I was appalled at the misogyny, I wouldn't actually mind if guys who can't trust themselves not to rape stay away from drunk women for this very reason. Hell, I'll even be the evil feminst boogeyman if they like. I don't care why they don't rape, just as long as they don't.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:35 am

Bottle wrote:
Neo Art wrote:I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.

Hell, there's plenty of people who are virgins and see their potential partners as real live human beings.

And oh gods, I do not want to think about MRA sites.
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Postby Gallowfield » Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:35 am

Bottle wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
I mean...is it really just no experience with the alternative?

Well it's not JUST that, since obviously there are plenty of guys who are virgins and yet manage to view vagina-owners as real live human beings.

And experience usually cures it, but not always. If you visit A Voice for Men or the Spearhead or any of the MRA sites, you will find amazing mental gymnastics being performed to explain away situations in which women appear to enjoy sex for the sake of sex. Some guys are so determined to hold on to this view that even if they somehow manage to find a willing female partner they will convince themselves that she's really just trying to steal their sperm in order to get pregnant and rake in those sweet, sweet child support payments.


It sounds like such men have had bad experiences with women in the past. Trust me, as an asexual who still wants a relationship, most women want sex. It gets rather annoying, honestly.
Facts are arbitrary. Pleasure is the only truth.
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Here's why I prefer strength over brains- beating a computer at chess is hard, but beating a computer at kickboxing is something anyone can do.
Violence isn't the answer. It's a question and the answer is yes.

Someday, I shall meet Lian and learn the ways of Chinese martial arts, or die trying. More likely the latter, admittedly.

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