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Your opinion on Falkland Islands?

The islands should remain under British control.
395
80%
The island should be handed over to the Argentinian government.
59
12%
They should be left uninhabited.
37
8%
 
Total votes : 491

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Postby Machtergreifung » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:52 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:The Falklanders are patriotic to the core, and 98.8% voted to remain British. This is fantastic, because we British are the greatest country in the world and if them Argies invade again, we'll show them who's boss once more. (Image)
Come on Kirchner, does it look like these people want to join your nation?


The funny thing is that the Falklanders are vastly more patriotic than the majority of British people who actually live in Britian...

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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:53 am

Machtergreifung wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:The Falklanders are patriotic to the core, and 98.8% voted to remain British. This is fantastic, because we British are the greatest country in the world and if them Argies invade again, we'll show them who's boss once more. (Image)
Come on Kirchner, does it look like these people want to join your nation?


The funny thing is that the Falklanders are vastly more patriotic than the majority of British people who actually live in Britian...

If Britain was at war with France, British would be equally patriotic. rally 'round the flag syndrome.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:56 am

Machtergreifung wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:The Falklanders are patriotic to the core, and 98.8% voted to remain British. This is fantastic, because we British are the greatest country in the world and if them Argies invade again, we'll show them who's boss once more. (Image)
Come on Kirchner, does it look like these people want to join your nation?


The funny thing is that the Falklanders are vastly more patriotic than the majority of British people who actually live in Britian...

That's because to the Falklanders, being British is synonymous to being Falklander.

It's not quite the same in Britain. As Paul T Kavanagh said, it's "like a Latin identity, only with embarrassing self-consciousness when doing the samba."
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:01 am

Liriena wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:The Falklanders are patriotic to the core, and 98.8% voted to remain British. This is fantastic, because we British are the greatest country in the world and if them Argies invade again, we'll show them who's boss once more. (Image)
Come on Kirchner, does it look like these people want to join your nation?


Argentina ain't invading. Feel free to drop the macho patriot attitude a few levels.


oh sure, when a BRITISH person is patriotic on this site, it's ANNOYING. but when americans go on about how they're the best, its NORMAL :palm:
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:02 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Argentina ain't invading. Feel free to drop the macho patriot attitude a few levels.


oh sure, when a BRITISH person is patriotic on this site, it's ANNOYING. but when americans go on about how they're the best, its NORMAL :palm:

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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:02 am

oh dear, i never realized how ignorant people on this site can be...
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:02 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Argentina ain't invading. Feel free to drop the macho patriot attitude a few levels.


oh sure, when a BRITISH person is patriotic on this site, it's ANNOYING. but when americans go on about how they're the best, its NORMAL :palm:

Implying that I actually have that double standard, or that I frown upon any form of patriotism.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:03 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Liriena wrote:
Argentina ain't invading. Feel free to drop the macho patriot attitude a few levels.


oh sure, when a BRITISH person is patriotic on this site, it's ANNOYING. but when americans go on about how they're the best, its NORMAL :palm:

We EXPECT that sort of thing from them.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:03 am

Arglorand wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
oh sure, when a BRITISH person is patriotic on this site, it's ANNOYING. but when americans go on about how they're the best, its NORMAL :palm:

We EXPECT that sort of thing from them.


They aren't modest like us Brits after all.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:04 am

fair enough. however, i feel that every once in a while, they should be reminded that if it wasn't for "stupid" and "dependent" Europeans, they wouldn't exist as a country
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:05 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:fair enough. however, i feel that every once in a while, they should be reminded that if it wasn't for "stupid" and "dependent" Europeans, they wouldn't exist as a country


I'm an anti-nationalistic Argentinian, so don't look at me.
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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:05 am

I think the referendum answered this debate.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:06 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:fair enough. however, i feel that every once in a while, they should be reminded that if it wasn't for "stupid" and "dependent" Europeans, they wouldn't exist as a country

I feel that once in a while we remind them that far too much.

But that's just an inhabitant of a country that had more business colonizing London than the Americas in me talking.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:06 am

so you understand that we inhabitated the islands at a time when there was no indienous population?
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:07 am

Liberated Counties wrote:I think the referendum answered this debate.


Not to the Argentine government. As said previously in this thread, the Argentine government does not recognize the right of the Falklanders to decide their own sovereignity.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:07 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Arglorand wrote:We EXPECT that sort of thing from them.


They aren't modest like us Brits after all.


I'm rather fond of the British stereotype.
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United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:so you understand that we inhabitated the islands at a time when there was no indienous population?


In a nutshell, yes.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:09 am

you cannot possibly agree with kirchner, who claims the referendum is "not relevant" do you? i mean, if they voted to join you guys, i bet it would be "relevant" to her then, eh? :lol:
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:10 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:you cannot possibly agree with kirchner, who claims the referendum is "not relevant" do you? i mean, if they voted to join you guys, i bet it would be "relevant" to her then, eh? :lol:

From a political point of view, she could easily justify that view by saying, "See, even the FOREIGN PIRATE DOGS agree with us."

She would be a douche, yeah, but she's being one already.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:11 am

hopefully the rest of the world will take a different view. you can't side with that clown :lol2:
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:13 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:you cannot possibly agree with kirchner, who claims the referendum is "not relevant" do you? i mean, if they voted to join you guys, i bet it would be "relevant" to her then, eh? :lol:


I'm a left-wing anti-nationalistic anti-Kirchnerist. Of course I don't agree with the narcissistic whackjob.
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Postby Tekania » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:13 am

Machtergreifung wrote:
Britian - handing out self-determination (providing China isn't involved) since 1997.


Obviously you need to retake reading. If you're interested my wife is a reading teacher and does tutoring on the side.
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Postby United commonwealth of ayrshire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:14 am

that's nice to know mate. also, you're left-wing, which i respect.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:14 am

We should have trolled the shit out of them by saying the referendum results were backward, and when she starts screeching about self-determination we say
"Oh wait nvm, that was a misreading."
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Postby Liriena » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:14 am

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:hopefully the rest of the world will take a different view. you can't side with that clown :lol2:


Most of the world, with the exception of the European Union, endorse actual debate between the Argie and the Brit governments.
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